[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[dribbles]

Yes, the UK is yet again breaking an agreement, and are being taken to court, or to quote "Let's call a spade a spade. This is illegal."
That is the UK is currently breaking the 'Good faith' article of the withdrawal agreement.

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2022/0...hanges-brexit/

That of course is the EU side and we all know there are two sides to every story. The UK has been trying to debate serious problems with the protocol that jeopardise the GFA for two years and the EU are ignoring this. In order to prevent the EU from further damaging the GFA the UK are forced to act unilaterally re-writing the Brexit agreeemnt.

As to whether legal or not, the UK Attorney General says it is.

'Listen my preferred alternative right now is negotiation and my invitation to our EU friends is to come back to the table and to engage substantively with our proposals,' she said. 'They've failed to do that for over two years now and that's why we've regrettably been left with no option but to take these measures.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-Peston.html

All quite reasonable eurochums and actions, or in this case EU inaction, has consequences.

[Armael]

I'm surprised you're not dizzy after all the constant spinning of stories that you do.

[Slant]

I remember it well enough, are you forgetting we beat you on the way to the final or do you not follow the German national team?

Ohh yes! I remember you got a forum holiday for trolling the thread after England lost the final, but didn't say a peep when Germany went out.

Stay classy Slant.

We won like 3 world cups since '66. And at the last one we kicked Brazil's ass in their home. Ask me again if I care about England beating us in the Euros in '20. Plenty of tourneys to be had. Plenty of opportunities, all we have to do is wait and we'll win something again. Not something every country can say about themselves.

[Forogil]

That of course is the EU side and we all know there are two sides to every story.

Yes, a right one (the EU) and a wrong one (the Untied Kingdom).

All quite reasonable eurochums and actions, or in this case EU inaction, has consequences.

EU's inactivity on the legal front is now changing, the inaction of Boris's government to follow the agreement that he made will thus have consequences.

[Temp name]

Yes, a right one (the EU) and a wrong one (the Untied Kingdom).


EU's inactivity on the legal front is now changing, the inaction of Boris's government to follow the agreement that he made will thus have consequences.

Yeah, I don't get how he can look at this and think he's in the right. You made a deal, signed it, agreed to abide by its rules, and then immediately turn around and do none of that, and claim it's the other side's fault.

And we just know if it was the EU doing the exact same thing he'd be up in arms about how the EU are breaking their deals and aren't trustworthy, but when it's the UK doing it, they're just taking back sovereignty

[Huehuecoyotl]

Yeah, I don't get how he can look at this and think he's in the right. You made a deal, signed it, agreed to abide by its rules, and then immediately turn around and do none of that, and claim it's the other side's fault.

And we just know if it was the EU doing the exact same thing he'd be up in arms about how the EU are breaking their deals and aren't trustworthy, but when it's the UK doing it, they're just taking back sovereignty

It's worse than that; the DUP side of the story suggests that Boris had no intention of honouring the agreement he signed. So he lied to the electorate (and gained his majority under false circumstances), he lied to the EU and he lied to the rest of the MPs that were out of the loop.

Since he was telling the DUP he was going to renege, I suspect he told the ERG the same thing. Which is why they agreed to vote for the deal.

Boris is, basically, a lying cunt. Can't be trusted in any circumstances.

[UnifiedDivide]

Boris has had 2 ethics advisors resign in less than 2 years, and he's apparently considering scrapping the position altogether.

Calling him anything less than "corrupt" or a "liar" would only give someone's bias (or bullshit) away. Boris is the one infecting the government. This is standard Boris, this is who he is. The sooner he is gone, the better.

[Iliena]

We won like 3 world cups since '66. And at the last one we kicked Brazil's ass in their home. Ask me again if I care about England beating us in the Euros in '20. Plenty of tourneys to be had. Plenty of opportunities, all we have to do is wait and we'll win something again. Not something every country can say about themselves.

I'm genuinely pleased for you! Well done!

I see Boris is in Ukraine again cultivating his "World Statesman" brand: The prime minister had been due to appear at a conference held by a group of his Tory MPs in Doncaster, but cancelled the visit to travel to the Ukrainian capital instead.

Bet he got a far warmer reception than facing his own MP's, after yet another great week for his goverment, with the ethics adviser and Priti Patel knocking it out the park with Rwanda!

[Fuiking]

Dribbles with his border control thing: no more migrants..

The dutch, in the EU: We cant handle more migrants, lets close border for them! EU: Okay. *shrugs*

[dribbles]

I'm genuinely pleased for you! Well done!

I see Boris is in Ukraine again cultivating his "World Statesman" brand: The prime minister had been due to appear at a conference held by a group of his Tory MPs in Doncaster, but cancelled the visit to travel to the Ukrainian capital instead.

Bet he got a far warmer reception than facing his own MP's, after yet another great week for his goverment, with the ethics adviser and Priti Patel knocking it out the park with Rwanda!

Boris, leader of the free world and in another win for Brexit, must be sorting out the arrangements for next years Eurovision to be held in the UK.

UK is asked to host Eurovision in 2023 after Ukraine ruled out.

The EU is working on a rival bid to move next year’s contest to Brussels, where it would be hosted on behalf of Ukraine in a symbolic gesture of solidarity from the “capital of the EU”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...aine-ruled-out

Why hold it in the capital of the EU when you can hold it in London?

[Iliena]

Boris, leader of the free world and in another win for Brexit, must be sorting out the arrangements for next years Eurovision to be held in the UK.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Boris, leader of the free world and in another win for Brexit, must be sorting out the arrangements for next years Eurovision to be held in the UK.

UK is asked to host Eurovision in 2023 after Ukraine ruled out.

The EU is working on a rival bid to move next year’s contest to Brussels, where it would be hosted on behalf of Ukraine in a symbolic gesture of solidarity from the “capital of the EU”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...aine-ruled-out

Why hold it in the capital of the EU when you can hold it in London?

Are you asking why you'd hold it in the centre of the organisation doing the most for the Ukrainian people displaced by this war, rather than in a country currently treating refugees like criminals?

I know what my answer to that question would be.

[dribbles]

Are you asking why you'd hold it in the centre of the organisation doing the most for the Ukrainian people displaced by this war, rather than in a country currently treating refugees like criminals?

I know what my answer to that question would be.

We have taken in 6 million refugees from Europe, made them feel very welcome and at home, have granted them the right to stay and guaranteed their security. How can you say anyone in the EU has done more? What else do you want us to do? Do we have the schools, doctors, housing, infrastructure to cope with more?

In other news the EU demonstrating their ingratitude for the above have launched legal proceedings against the UK regarding Northern Ireland and given us 2 months to comply.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ernational-law

That's just more EU nonsense for the UK to ignore then, what they gonna do? Sovereignty delivered by Brexit, it's a beautiful thing.

[Hansworst]

6 million probably includes all those Polish, Bulgarian and Romanian "refugees"

[UnifiedDivide]

Boris Johnson defends 'draconian' plan to electronically tag refugees

Boris Johnson has defended “draconian” Home Office plans to electronically tag asylum seekers arriving in Britain across the Channel on small boats or lorries.

Despite campaigners warning it will see people who have fled conflict treated as “criminals”, the prime minister said it is essential that people could not simply "vanish" after arriving in the UK.

Mr Johnson also insisted the government would press ahead with its contentious policy of deporting some asylum seekers to Rwanda after ministers were forced to abandon an inaugural flight on Tuesday evening due to a last minute legal case.

The Home Office says the 12 month tagging pilot – which will apply to adults who have travelled to the UK via “unnecessary and dangerous routes” – will test whether such tagging helps maintain regular contact with asylum claimants and if it means their claims are progressed more efficiently.

It will also collect data on how many people abscond and if conditions are beached, those seeking asylum may be considered for detention and removal, subject to administrative arrest, or prosecuted.

Those tagged will have to regularly report in person to authorities, may be subject to a curfew or excluded from certain locations, and failure to comply could see them returned to detention or prosecuted.

Defending the plans on Saturday, Mr Johnson said: "This is a very, very generous welcoming country. Quite right too. I am proud of it, but when people come here illegally, when they break the law, it is important that we make that distinction.

“That is what we are doing with our Rwanda policy. That is what we are doing with making sure that asylum seekers can’t just vanish into the rest of the country.”

He spoke after it was revealed the 12-month pilot – branded “draconian and punitive” by critics – had already started on Thursday.

Just outright turning them into criminals. Interesting that this happened right after his latest ethics advisor quit... and no wonder he is apparently thinking of getting rid of that position altogether.

[dribbles]

Boris Johnson defends 'draconian' plan to electronically tag refugees

Just outright turning them into criminals. Interesting that this happened right after his latest ethics advisor quit... and no wonder he is apparently thinking of getting rid of that position altogether.

They did that all by themselves when they entered the UK illegally. They are criminals.

After all they are not fleeing a dangerous or unsafe country where their life is in peril, they are coming from France for goodness sake.

[Huehuecoyotl]

They did that all by themselves when they entered the UK illegally. They are criminals.

After all they are not fleeing a dangerous or unsafe country where their life is in peril, they are coming from France for goodness sake.

We certainly shouldn't treat them like human beings, eh dribbles? They are swarming over us like, ooh, I don't know, rats? We should lock them up, and use some kind of distinguishing feature so that we can recognise these unclean beings.

Any of this starting to ring a bell with you? Any of this starting to feel worryingly familiar? Ah, who am I kidding. There's no self-awareness in there, we've got hundreds of posts on this thread to prove that.

But in this instance, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a fucking nazi duck.

[Fuiking]

They did that all by themselves when they entered the UK illegally. They are criminals.

After all they are not fleeing a dangerous or unsafe country where their life is in peril, they are coming from France for goodness sake.

Refugees enter france but want to continue to england: ''CRIMINALS, THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM!'' - Dribbles 2022

[dribbles]

Brexit to be 'completed' as Dominic Raab unveils plan to BLOCK European court's meddling

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-rights-rwanda

Nice, very very nice. More sovereignty, thanks to Brexit, restored and all systems go for Rwanda!

[Huehuecoyotl]

Brexit to be 'completed' as Dominic Raab unveils plan to BLOCK European court's meddling

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-rights-rwanda

Nice, very very nice. More sovereignty, thanks to Brexit, restored and all systems go for Rwanda!

No comment yet on Reet-Smugg and his "please, PLEASE tell us how to make Brexit work" website?

Personally, I'm amazed that the Sun "readers" didn't come up with a whole list of brilliant ideas for Brexit benefits that would have kept that lanky waste of oxygen busy for decades. Very strange that.

It's almost as if Brexiteers have no fucking clue what they're doing, and no idea how to make a silk purse out of this pigs ear that Brexit has provided.