View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #6261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Tell you what, the next time you sign up to a mobile phone contract and agree to pay £40 a month for two years, why don't you just stop paying after a month and tell them that you've decided that you don't owe them any money. Because that's basically what you are suggesting we can do in this scenario. That we can ignore the planned budgets that we signed up to and agreed to contribute to, and simply walk away.

    No doubt you also believe that we would then immediately have countries all over the world queueing up to do business with us. Despite the fact that we clearly can't be trusted with our fiduciary responsibilities.

    Yes folks. It's more of Dribbles fanciful notions again. Up is down. Black is white. Acting in an untrustworthy way makes you magically trustworthy to everyone. Welcome to the land of the dancing unicorns.

    Brexit would be leaving me with a permanent grimace on my face if it wasn't for you giving me so many laughs. It's like our own little one person Muppet show.
    People of means never sign up to a £40 a month mobile phone contract for two years. That's only for the real muppets who can't afford to buy the handset outright :P You weren't citing your own circumstances were you?
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  2. #6262
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.ft.com/content/72252768-...9-4b5ddcca99b3

    Sorry to say, but Britain will owe EU regardless. You don't just get to skip out on payments because you don't want to make them.
    That is talking about a trade deal (not a deal on the withdrawal bill) and is dependent on the treaty regarding the withdrawal bill being passed into law. There are many conflicting opinions among experts as to whether the UK would have to pay a settlement following no agreement being reached, some say that the UK has to pay regardless, others believe that it would not and others still say that it would need to tested in court.

    Personally I don't know enough to say one way or another who is correct.

    Although in my opinion the legality of whether the bill needs to be paid is irrelevant as, barring a massive a fallout between the UK and EU, it will be paid anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    People of means never sign up to a £40 a month mobile phone contract for two years. That's only for the real muppets who can't afford to buy the handset outright :P You weren't citing your own circumstances were you?
    Hands up, who's surprised dribbles missed the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Hands up, who's surprised dribbles missed the point?
    The only hand going up is Dribbles. And that's because he's missed the point of this post too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Hands up, who's surprised dribbles missed the point?
    What do you expect? I bring the worlds best professors to the debate who actually have a hand in the outcome of Brexit and am countered by the example of a chav that can't afford his next £40 monthly payment for the latest mobile phone. Dunno why I bother really....

    In a probably vain attempt to show how Brexit is good for everyone, even the poor people, here is how Jacob explains today why they can't afford that phone because of the EU and why afterwards it will be a bit a little easier.

    "The EU is putting up the cost of living for the people who are least well off in this country. Taking back control means we can change that!

    "It’s no good to say you want people to have a better standard of living without a practical way of doing that. The EU is lowering the standard of living for my constituents."

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/99...rs-Brexit-News

    So that is the mobile sorted, just a shame the EU are going to force google to charge , hitting the poorest worst again, EU customers for access to the play store and android.

    Still even that won't apply to the UK once we are out.

    No wonder so many of the working class support Brexit.
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  6. #6266
    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    If you have to quote John Redwood, the Nosferatu of British politics, you know you have lost the argument. That muppet has been an irrelevance since the mid-90s.
    Or the express and the daily mail, for that matter

  7. #6267
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What do you expect? I bring the worlds best professors to the debate who actually have a hand in the outcome of Brexit and am countered by the example of a chav that can't afford his next £40 monthly payment for the latest mobile phone. Dunno why I bother really....

    In a probably vain attempt to show how Brexit is good for everyone, even the poor people, here is how Jacob explains today why they can't afford that phone because of the EU and why afterwards it will be a bit a little easier.

    "The EU is putting up the cost of living for the people who are least well off in this country. Taking back control means we can change that!

    "It’s no good to say you want people to have a better standard of living without a practical way of doing that. The EU is lowering the standard of living for my constituents."

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/99...rs-Brexit-News

    So that is the mobile sorted, just a shame the EU are going to force google to charge , hitting the poorest worst again, EU customers for access to the play store and android.

    Still even that won't apply to the UK once we are out.

    No wonder so many of the working class support Brexit.
    Wow, you really grabbed hold of that mobile phone analogy like a child with a rattle, didn't you? And then used it to fire an "insult" off at me, that I'm apparently a chav because I mention the possibility of getting a mobile phone on a contract. That, of course, says more about your persona than it does about me, but that's the whole point of the show you put on here, isn't it?

    Then choosing to use the thoughts of a man who gives every indication of not just wanting to live in the 1800s, but actually believing that he already does. The Tories? Looking out for the least well off? In the way that they have for the last 8 years you mean? Pathetic.

    The working class support Brexit because they've been fed lies about what it does for decades, from lying scumbags like Boris. The papers, owned by billionaires that register abroad to avoid paying tax, telling them that their lives would be so much better if they just threw off their evil EU overlords. Even with all that, the "majority" for Brexit has probably already gone, with enough of the old having already popped their clogs. Just need the whole process to collapse enough to force that second referendum, and you will have to figure out a new way to try and wind up the forum. I wonder what it will be....will you pretend to be a white supremacist maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What do you expect?
    From you? Not too much actually. Kind of was also in that post you've quoted, so I guess huehue was right, you missed that one too.

  9. #6269
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    LOL have you read John redwoods Bio? http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/about-john-redwood/

    As you are calling him a bit dim presumably your esteemed one is available online for us all to read. Care to share such aplomb with us?
    Don't need to read his bio to know the guy is a moron. Just need to learn how he failed as Welsh secretary to learn the anthem of wales

    https://youtu.be/GzBq0n8dxFQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What do you expect? I bring the worlds best professors to the debate who actually have a hand in the outcome of Brexit and am countered by the example of a chav that can't afford his next £40 monthly payment for the latest mobile phone. Dunno why I bother really....

    In a probably vain attempt to show how Brexit is good for everyone, even the poor people, here is how Jacob explains today why they can't afford that phone because of the EU and why afterwards it will be a bit a little easier.

    "The EU is putting up the cost of living for the people who are least well off in this country. Taking back control means we can change that!

    "It’s no good to say you want people to have a better standard of living without a practical way of doing that. The EU is lowering the standard of living for my constituents."

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/99...rs-Brexit-News

    So that is the mobile sorted, just a shame the EU are going to force google to charge , hitting the poorest worst again, EU customers for access to the play store and android.

    Still even that won't apply to the UK once we are out.

    No wonder so many of the working class support Brexit.
    And the express again quoting a person that likely doesn't know how to turn on his own washing machine. Yeah the epitome of truth there /s

  10. #6270
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Don't need to read his bio to know the guy is a moron. Just need to learn how he failed as Welsh secretary to learn the anthem of wales
    To be fair, Welsh is fucking difficult, I imagine.
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  11. #6271
    theresa may forcing the eu's hand on the irish border question.

    ireland wont settle for a hard border, and the UK has told the eu what it expects. will the eu decline putting ireland at risk and showing ireland that they don't give a fuck about them?

    strong from theresa may if i'm honest, this will win over a lot of support from the brexiters who felt she was teetering towards remain.

  12. #6272
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    theresa may forcing the eu's hand on the irish border question.

    ireland wont settle for a hard border, and the UK has told the eu what it expects. will the eu decline putting ireland at risk and showing ireland that they don't give a fuck about them?

    strong from theresa may if i'm honest, this will win over a lot of support from the brexiters who felt she was teetering towards remain.
    Oh well, I didn't want to say this... but I hope you enjoy bombings in London. Troubles 2.0 inc!
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  13. #6273
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Oh well, I didn't want to say this... but I hope you enjoy bombings in London. Troubles 2.0 inc!
    not really. ireland need the UK, we protect their airspace via RAF because they don't have the capability to protect themselves. ireland knows that the eu aren't going to protect their airspace (for free) like the UK currently does.

    it's interesting, eu speaks about protecting ireland and making sure that there is no hard border, because it would be horrible for ireland to suffer that. theresa may is simply saying "okay, give us what we want then". like i said, it's strong from her. i don't like her, i think she's generally weak and i think she's genuinely a horrible person but in this instance she is showing strength.

  14. #6274
    Sorry UK, but the Irish problem is 100% of your making so you do NOT get to play the blame card. The EU had working solutions on the table from day one which the UK refused in favor of their harebrained "new technology" or mutual customs collection. It is UK idiocy that puts the Irish at risk, not EU "indifference".

  15. #6275
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    That's just not something to joke about.
    I am not joking. But I am also not taking the blame for it. What Floopa and the lunatics don't get is that the default state between two nations is a hard border. I don't give a shit what the UK thinks the world should look like, that's how it is. They can refuse to maintain their side of the border, but I expect the integrity of the EU outer border to be protected. That means the border between Ireland and "the outside" has to be securely locked shut. This, by sheer stupidity on the part of the UK, tragically includes NI.

    And that, is the end of the story. Nope, I don't give a shit what happens in NI afterwards. Nor England. All I'd care about is making sure it doesn't spread to Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    not really. ireland need the UK, we protect their airspace via RAF because they don't have the capability to protect themselves. ireland knows that the eu aren't going to protect their airspace (for free) like the UK currently does.

    it's interesting, eu speaks about protecting ireland and making sure that there is no hard border, because it would be horrible for ireland to suffer that. theresa may is simply saying "okay, give us what we want then". like i said, it's strong from her. i don't like her, i think she's generally weak and i think she's genuinely a horrible person but in this instance she is showing strength.
    The EU can't dictate the British Government on domestic policy. That's why we can't do anything. The only true solutions that would help the situation have to come from Great Britain. Unless you'd want us to actually take your sovereignty away and teach you how to run a country as adults? No? Thought not. Clean up your own mess. Don't ask others to do it for you.

    The times the EU hand held you through every crisis are over.
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  16. #6276
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    theresa may is simply saying "okay, give us what we want then".
    How about you let us keep what we have then?
    You are the ones wanting to change something that you agreed to.

  17. #6277
    barnier says UK's Brexit whitepaper breaches eu core principles.

    sorry ireland, we tried. looks like the eu are going to fuck you over. hard brexit, no deal, it is.

    (time to pack my things xd)

  18. #6278
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    barnier says UK's Brexit whitepaper breaches eu core principles.

    sorry ireland, we tried. looks like the eu are going to fuck you over. hard brexit, no deal, it is.

    (time to pack my things xd)
    Why do you keep lying like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Why do you keep lying like this?
    To
    1. rile you up into saying things you shouldn't.
    2. offer different bits of propaganda; something will stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sefrimutro View Post
    To
    1. rile you up into saying things you shouldn't.
    2. offer different bits of propaganda; something will stick.
    He must realise that it makes his posts look super douchy. This is insane. I wonder how often I've said that in this thread already...
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