View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #15761
    The delusion of Brexiteers summarized:



    Starts around 7:00.

    I like how he just makes up shit as he goes along... the UK has a strong hand, time compression "concentrating their minds and make them rapidly discuss free trade terms", "that will bring them to the table"... Sheesh, he really thinks the British Empire still exists, doesn't he? He wants to force the EU to the table? Has he not seen what happened in the past 2 years the EU was at the table? And now they want to do "rapid"? They fuck about for 2 years and now it's time to press for time? Rofl...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    It IS worth doing. Rest assured, the rest of the EU is watching you. It will help your case for re-application at a later date.
    If the UK was to be allowed back in too soon there would be things that need doing that wont get done

    EU army springs to mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    If the UK was to be allowed back in too soon there would be things that need doing that wont get done

    EU army springs to mind
    Not sure that is completely true, even after a brexit both sides still want military cooperation since it's cost effective and as skroe has pointed out the UK has spend the last several terms to cut back heavily on military spending.

    They would need to up their spending immensely during a time of economic crisis to really be on their own.

    For political calls I do agree with you, the UK has for a large part always voted in agreement with the EU but they also Often were a disruptive force trying to squeeze out personal benefits and producing bad EU sceptics who's aim is to dismantle the EU, instead of building on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Not sure that is completely true, even after a brexit both sides still want military cooperation since it's cost effective and as skroe has pointed out the UK has spend the last several terms to cut back heavily on military spending.
    The UK has been pretty clear on their opposition to such a thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    The UK has been pretty clear on their opposition to such a thing...
    EU army yes because they have some sort of odd vision about it, while mostly it would be building on the effective joint operations.

  6. #15766
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Talking of irony, Erskine-May was Theresa May's husband's great-great-grandfather.

    Oh, damn. Peston, and me, have been had! It was a joke!
    On that note, The Times had this to add:


  7. #15767
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Both @Skroe and I have been saying since the referendum that the likely outcome in the long term is going to be a trajectory similar to that of countries that departed NATO but ended up rejoining - the UK, or whatever is left of it if Scotland/NI doesn't try breaking off, will simply see the costs as too high and public opinion will shift enough that reapplication will seem more favorable. To say nothing of the fact that once this shitbag administration is evicted from office in the US, the series of governments in the US are likely to push for that simply because the UK being in the EU sphere is in American interests, too.

    Brexit or no Brexit, it doesn't deal with the source of the problem in that austerity has inflicted a blight on the UK and until it gets a government willing to actually spend money again, it will continue slipping into what is effectively European periphery conditions on par with Greece.
    The issue is that if they tried for accession at a later point, the EU would call for them to join the Euro and sign Schengen. It would be a very bitter pill. And I honestly would like to assume that if they so happen to Remain, the next MFF their rebate gets vetoed.
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  8. #15768
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    If the UK was to be allowed back in too soon there would be things that need doing that wont get done

    EU army springs to mind
    The idea is that the UK wants back into the EU, because they took a bit of time for soul searching, finding themselves, thinking and all that other hippie stuff angsty teenager girls do before they grow up and understand what the EU is about.

    The Britain of that future would be an asset to the EU, not a constant nagger and feet dragger, a doubter... in short, useless as they are now.
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    I love how leave voters cry that the Government hasn't respected the result of the referendum.

    We've spent 3 years in political gridlock, wasted millions of pounds trying to deliver on the result of the referendum, what the hell do they expect to happen?

  10. #15770
    Quote Originally Posted by gothmoth11 View Post
    "Cry"? What are you, an 11-year old playing a video game?
    And here you are, whinging.
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  11. #15771
    Quote Originally Posted by gothmoth11 View Post
    Once again, for the benefit of the very, very stupid, it takes TEN SECONDS to set up another account and get around a ban here.

    The way you people say "ENJOY YOUR BAN!!!!!" like you were invoking the wrath of God or something is truly sad.

    Second, because you voted remain, doesn't mean that you agree with a bunch of nauseating sub-literate corporate namby-pamby liberals and fuckwitted eurotrash.
    Cute. Did you look up those words randomly in your anti-establishment propaganda book? I mean, you nearly got all the buzzwords in, you forgot "lefty", "fascist", "commie" (yes, they can be used together if you're mad enough), "globalist" and... oh, yes... "sheep", the oldie but goldie.

    Come on, you can do better. My left nut is better at trolling than you are. Ask your parents to help you, clearly you have trouble understanding grammar and sentence structure... "because you voted remain, doesn't mean that you agree with a bunch of nauseating sub-literate corporate namby-pamby liberals and fuckwitted eurotrash." What does that even mean? Are you trying to attack her or defend her? "Clearly I hate Remainers and think they're 'a bunch of nauseating sub-literate corporate namby-pamby liberals and fuckwitted eurotrash' but just because you vote Remain doesn't mean I think you're one."

    That's actually the nicest passive aggressive defensive cop out I've seen so far. You're like a corgi trying to be vicious but making everyone go "awww" instead, aren't you? You little rascal...
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  12. #15772
    Quote Originally Posted by gothmoth11 View Post
    Are you flirting with me? I'm not into German guys, sorry.
    Wow, what a comeback... straight into the weird sexual thing.
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  13. #15773
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    That's actually the nicest passive aggressive defensive cop out I've seen so far. You're like a corgi trying to be vicious but making everyone go "awww" instead, aren't you? You little rascal...
    Continually engaging with the burner to slag them off just makes you look like you've got far too much time on your hands. Debate the politics they discuss or ignore them, surely you can muster the willpower for that?
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Damnit hubcap, you are such a retard.
    Seriously guys, this forum would be a better place if everyone just stopped acknowledging Zenkai. It's just demeaning to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Continually engaging with the burner to slag them off just makes you look like you've got far too much time on your hands. Debate the politics they discuss or ignore them, surely you can muster the willpower for that?
    I want mods to fix this, these posts shouldn't even be possible.
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  15. #15775
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I want mods to fix this, these posts shouldn't even be possible.
    Well that's hardly likely to happen.

    Sorry if it comes across as attacking you personally Slant, that's not the aim, just kinda depressing coming back to the thread every other day to find 2 pages of pointless "NO U" tittle tattle. At least after all this time, to see it still happen.

    And like they say, evading a ban isn't hard or troublesome really.
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Damnit hubcap, you are such a retard.
    Seriously guys, this forum would be a better place if everyone just stopped acknowledging Zenkai. It's just demeaning to everyone.

  16. #15776
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Well that's hardly likely to happen.

    Sorry if it comes across as attacking you personally Slant, that's not the aim, just kinda depressing coming back to the thread every other day to find 2 pages of pointless "NO U" tittle tattle. At least after all this time, to see it still happen.

    And like they say, evading a ban isn't hard or troublesome really.
    I know. Mods need to address this. I know this section is probably the most unimportant for this forum (even if it is one of the most frequented one, with GenOT and /politics), but they need to find a way to impose a minimum post count to be able to post here. 50 or 100 posts would help the situation already. Are these ban evaders going to spam other forums just to get the post count? Perhaps. And I think that's what they want to avoid... We literally are the trash heap of MMO-C. The undesirables... lol

    Guess you're right after all. Fuck this. If only one of them dimwits just ONCE would bring forth an actual intelligent and reasonable argument.
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  17. #15777
    The UK will never leave the EU... it was all a ruse in order to get preferential treatment and it failed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    The UK will never leave the EU... it was all a ruse in order to get preferential treatment and it failed.
    Didn't they already get preferential treatment in a lot of areas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    Yes they did they even got out the f having their currency changed to the euro they where the favourite child and it goes to show that the favourite is almost always the most bratty.
    Does that.. make Denmark the new favourite child since we also are not in the Euro

    Edit: Though imo despite having exceptions Denmark is trying to take part not stand apart

  20. #15780
    Just in case any optimist was still in doubt:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8829391.html

    Germany and France have warned that Theresa May will need to present a “clear and precise” reason why she needs a Brexit delay when she meets EU leaders later this week, if she wants to have any chance of them approving it.
    So far, we're heading into a no-deal crash. Why? Because the UK still has not touched base with reality.
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