View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #17861
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    The latest Westminster voting intention poll, with the inclusion of the new parties, show the Cons taking a massive 10 point hit however Lab have failed to capitalise on the Cons' poor Brexit performance and gain any ground losing 3 points themselves. The biggest winner is CHUK, having gained 8 points, followed by Farage's Brexit party and then UKIP!

    It is possible that by the time the next GE comes around that the single issue Brexit parties could be polling at similar levels to the main two!

    I think it is real cause for concern that Brexit is pushing voters towards the likes of UKIP, who are not even bothering to hide their racist elements any longer.

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...08675306209280
    I don't think it is too much of a concern as long as the Tories do the decent thing and put in place a Prime Minister that believes in a clean Brexit rather than remaining.

    If Theresa May doesn't go soon and Boris, or someone of his ilk, doesn't take over her party will continue to haemorrhage voters towards Nigel Farage's Brexit Party and the now Tommy Robinson advised UKIP.

    Polls like this just seal Theresa May's, and arguably Corbyns fate.

  2. #17862
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Nope, it's that people didn't pay attention or they wilfully ignored what was being said at the time.

    Theresa May
    George Osborne
    Major & Blair
    Mandy

    I'm more than happy to acknowledge the vast majority of it passed me by too. But it's not right to say it wasn't discussed.
    I stand corrected. I shouldn't have made that claim.
    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    crazy people gonna have there dog put down for rape after they hump there leg
    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    feminists they always look like a hippo thats rolled in dogshit and then hit with a nuclear weapon and lived

  3. #17863
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Polls like this just seal Theresa May's, and arguably Corbyns fate.
    To be fair, they are both crap - so this is not necessarily a bad thing

  4. #17864
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    To be fair, they are both crap - so this is not necessarily a bad thing
    Agreed, perhaps I'll see you at one of the launch rallies over the weekend :P


  5. #17865
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I don't think it is too much of a concern as long as the Tories do the decent thing and put in place a Prime Minister that believes in a clean Brexit rather than remaining.

    If Theresa May doesn't go soon and Boris, or someone of his ilk, doesn't take over her party will continue to haemorrhage voters towards Nigel Farage's Brexit Party and the now Tommy Robinson advised UKIP.

    Polls like this just seal Theresa May's, and arguably Corbyns fate.
    That assumes that the Tories will hang on to remain supporting voters.

    Replacing May will not change the parliamentary maths, a leave supporting PM will still face the same problem that there are roughly 300-400 MPs that will not let no-deal pass through Parliament and it is unlikely that the Con's minority government problem could be solved by a GE, especially as CHUK are appearing to hoover up disillusioned remain supporters whilst disgruntled leavers are going over to UKIP and the Brexit party.

    Also, I do not understand the support that many leave supporters have for Johnson, Boris will do what Boris always does and put his own interests first, and he will flip as soon as those interests stop aligning with leave.

  6. #17866
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    To be fair, they are both crap - so this is not necessarily a bad thing
    Who is better? The Tory party has a roster of senior MPs that ranges from powerfully incompetent to frustratingly idiotic, Labour has no real option outside Corbyn himself, the LibDems are a nothingness.

    That leaves us the corporate fantasists in the Independent Group, the frothing racists now running UKIP, the bullshit merchant extraordinaire Farage?

    What a fucking shit show.

  7. #17867
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Agreed, perhaps I'll see you at one of the launch rallies over the weekend :P

    Why are you celebrating this? They will take voters primarily from the Tories. Which means the Tories will have less chance of getting a majority. The Tories are the only party with even the slightest intention of carrying out anything more than a BINO. You are literally cheering the death of your dream.

    Your lack of understanding is turning you into a parody.
    When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.

    Quote Originally Posted by George Carlin
    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
    Brexophilia: The act of rubbing yourself against dead political ideas for sexual pleasure.

  8. #17868
    Quote Originally Posted by mojojojo202 View Post
    Who is better? The Tory party has a roster of senior MPs that ranges from powerfully incompetent to frustratingly idiotic, Labour has no real option outside Corbyn himself, the LibDems are a nothingness.

    That leaves us the corporate fantasists in the Independent Group, the frothing racists now running UKIP, the bullshit merchant extraordinaire Farage?

    What a fucking shit show.
    Several Tory MPs, several Labour MPs, several TIG MPs for a start, but you probably view them all as corporate fantasists (whatever that means) so would disagree with that

  9. #17869
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Why are you celebrating this? They will take voters primarily from the Tories. Which means the Tories will have less chance of getting a majority. The Tories are the only party with even the slightest intention of carrying out anything more than a BINO. You are literally cheering the death of your dream.

    Your lack of understanding is turning you into a parody.
    I like it that that's the way you think but it a false assumption that the brexit party will steal primarily Tory votes. You may not like the figures, but more than 60% of Labour constituencies voted for Brexit. The Labour opposition in conjunction with the Conservatives have collectively failed their electorate.

    Why not your good self be a part of the future? Instead of hankering after the past, get with the programme and join the only party who will unify the splits in the Labour party and those of the Tories.

    See you at the rally, watch the future unfurl before your eyes, you know it makes sense!

  10. #17870
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I like it that that's the way you think but it a false assumption that the brexit party will steal primarily Tory votes.
    Except it's not an assumption - its literally what the polling data is saying. Or do you think -10 is less of a drop vs -3?

    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You may not like the figures, but more than 60% of Labour constituencies voted for Brexit.
    But as we also know, a very large number of the people who voted leave in those constituencies did not vote for Labour in the GE, so your argument falls over immediately.
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-04-11 at 11:52 AM.

  11. #17871
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Why are you celebrating this? They will take voters primarily from the Tories. Which means the Tories will have less chance of getting a majority. The Tories are the only party with even the slightest intention of carrying out anything more than a BINO. You are literally cheering the death of your dream.

    Your lack of understanding is turning you into a parody.
    Time to bring back the 350m NHS bus.

  12. #17872
    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    off topic about the banking system



    You kinda have to burn it down to change, tho. Our banking system is a fractional reserve system, to change the system you'd have to get rid of it which pretty much means burning the system down. Look up "Giralgeldschöpfung", but a bit deeper than the wikipedia article. Try something like this book.
    There are ways other than fire to get rid of something.

  13. #17873
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Except it's not an assumption - its literally what the polling data is saying. Or do you think -10 is less of a drop vs -3?


    But as we also know, a very large number of the people who voted leave in those constituencies did not vote for Labour in the GE, so your argument falls over immediately.
    80% + of the electorate voted for parties who promised Brexit in their manifesto at the GE. The figures are the figures, no getting away from them.

    They have all been betrayed. Other than the now extreme UKIP there is only one new sanctuary for them. And it is not the Lib Dems.

    You will see in a few weeks at the EU elections....I can picture it now can you? The grinning smile of a man with a pint and a fag in his hand after the results across all the media and on every front page.

  14. #17874
    I like how Dribs is pissed off because yesterday no-deal died.
    “It’s majoritarian, the majority wins, it’s ruled by the majority for the majority – sod the minority. Whereas true democracy includes everybody’s opinion in society,” - Margaret Georgiadou, 2019 about Brexit referendum.
    PSA: Being a volunteer is no excuse to make a shite job of it.

  15. #17875
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    People don't turn 80 and suddenly hate the EU.
    Then how do you explain dribbs?

  16. #17876
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    80% + of the electorate voted for parties who promised Brexit in their manifesto at the GE. The figures are the figures, no getting away from them.
    Still arguing that everyone who voted for Labour wants Brexit delivered, when all polling shows that a majority of Labour voters and party members want to either revoke article 50 or have a people's vote to resolve the issue?
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You will see in a few weeks at the EU elections....I can picture it now can you? The grinning smile of a man with a pint and a fag in his hand after the results across all the media and on every front page.
    UKIP got 27% of the vote in 2014, current polling has UKIP + the Brexit party combined on 18% vs revoke and remain parties on 20%.



    If you want to celebrate your share of the vote dropping by 1/3 (even more then that in reality when UKIP are competing against the Brexit party for the racist vote) then go right ahead and enjoy that. People like me who have never really bothered with EU elections previously will now absolutely be voting in every single one we can against your lazy timewasting racist crowd, so good luck ever getting close to 27% again.
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-04-11 at 12:23 PM.

  17. #17877
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You will see in a few weeks at the EU elections....I can picture it now can you? The grinning smile of a man with a pint and a fag in his hand after the results across all the media and on every front page.
    Traditionally turnout for EP elections has always been low and they tend to attract voters at the more extreme ends of the spectrum, hence UKIP's relative success in the EP compared to their abject failure in UK elections. I think it's it possible that there will be more interest the elections this time around but it is likely that they will not offer many answers as to how voters will vote in a GE.

  18. #17878
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    Well now it's on the Brits to show the EU how much they really want to stay in come next election. Considering how many here claim it is a large group.

    I am prepared for another excuse in the same light of well the Brits really don't protest as a people but now more well the Brits don't really vote as a people.

    Rather ironic that of the brexiteers are now asking for votes to boycott the EU while at the same time claiming it's undemocratic, really not the brightest bunch those leavers.

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    "the EU is undemocratic!"

    Why? What are they asking of you now?

    "They're asking us to vote!"

    ¿qué?
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before.

    A bunch of times actually.

  20. #17880
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    "the EU is undemocratic!"

    Why? What are they asking of you now?

    "They're asking us to vote!"

    ¿qué?
    How about "they are asking us to vote at the step that has least influence on final outcome"?

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