View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #17901
    Oh look, a proper grown-up set of politicians handle an issue with a referendum in a sensible way. I wonder if there is a lesson to be learned there, for anyone.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oorly-informed
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  2. #17902
    I fully expect May to do her best to hang on and kick the can so she can keep bringing her deal.
    And I am not even sure that's a bad thing; it IS the only deal.

    What I fear is that we will see the UK act in bad faith against the EU and we will see acts of sabotage.

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    HoC is in Easter Recess now, another follows in summer. less than 6 months to get their stuff together.

  4. #17904
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    For the British, Schildbürger are a mythical citizen of a town called Schildau, known for various things like, e.g., building a town hall without windows. And then trying to carry light into the town hall with buckets. Yes, that's the level of stupidity in the House of Commons.
    Sorry to correct you but Schildau was the town the author of the latest version was born in, the town where "Schildbürger" supposedly come from is called "Schilda"* (in older versions it was called "Lalenburg").
    The English equivalent of this are the Wise Men of Gotham.

    What both have in commone with each other but not with the House of Commons: The idiocy is a ruse that only later becomes habit.

    *coincidence, I'm sure.

  5. #17905
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Oh look, a proper grown-up set of politicians handle an issue with a referendum in a sensible way. I wonder if there is a lesson to be learned there, for anyone.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oorly-informed
    Rubbish example as per usual. Switzerland have referendums every 5 minutes in comparison to the UK, they are bound to get the odd one wrong legally. The once in a generation UK Brexit referendum was legally sound and no court challenge alleging otherwise would be successful.

    That is why you haven't and won't see one.

  6. #17906
    Getting fined for over spending is an interesting use of "legally sound" or did that not actually happen?
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    Trebuchets new meta.

  7. #17907
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Merkel had longer consecutive term though, and was head of CDU for about same time as Putin.

    Clearly that means no democracy in Germany. /s
    Elections in Germany are conducted in a far more legitimate and fair manner than they are in Russia, along with the press actually being free.

    Maybe Russia should try that if Russia wants to be considered democratic.

  8. #17908
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Rubbish example as per usual. Switzerland have referendums every 5 minutes in comparison to the UK, they are bound to get the odd one wrong legally. The once in a generation UK Brexit referendum was legally sound and no court challenge alleging otherwise would be successful.

    That is why you haven't and won't see one.
    Didn't the Leave campaign admit to campaign financing law violations in court a couple of weeks ago?

  9. #17909
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Getting fined for over spending is an interesting use of "legally sound" or did that not actually happen?
    You mean the overspending that the remain side carried out by spending millions sending every household in the UK a glossy brochure?

    https://assets.publishing.service.go...for-the-uk.pdf

    That one there? I agree despicable, if only the leave side had equal resources, who knows how wide the gap between leave and remain would have been.

  10. #17910
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    I was thinking it was more that there are a LOT more over 60s than there are 16-18 year olds, or rather people who were under 18 last referrendum who are now 18. I could be wrong of course, but it would take a lot of older people deciding not to vote before that bracket of 2ish years is bigger than the entirety of the over 60s population.
    The growing elderly population is a problem in that regard. My worry is even if the numbers were there, apathy would take over. I am not sure of the % of younger voters who took part in 2016, I seem to remember Sky News citing a figure of around 34% turnout, and that certainly didn't appear to be challenged at the time, but I fully accept that this could be way off.
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    great, now we're stuck with those monkeys who can't come to any agreement at all, sigh.
    As if they are going to get anything done in the new extension they've got, and then the EU is going to give then ANOTHER extension.

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  12. #17912
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You mean the overspending that the remain side carried out by spending millions sending every household in the UK a glossy brochure?

    https://assets.publishing.service.go...for-the-uk.pdf

    That one there? I agree despicable, if only the leave side had equal resources, who knows how wide the gap between leave and remain would have been.
    The government was required by the law that enabled the referendum in the first place to publish that brochure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiase View Post
    great, now we're stuck with those monkeys who can't come to any agreement at all, sigh.
    As if they are going to get anything done in the new extension they've got, and then the EU is going to give then ANOTHER extension.

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    I HIGHLY doubt the EU will give another extension, if nothing happens in the coming 6 months France will have a rock solid case to not extend and I'm pretty sure they will be able to convince other countries to their point of view. We'll see of course, but the EU knows this situation cannot continue indefinitely.

  14. #17914
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    The government was required by the law that enabled the referendum in the first place to publish that brochure.
    And you think that was fair that the remain positioned government with all its lies, money, no - my tax money, and machinery behind it campaigned for leave without giving equal succour and resource to the leave side? and then has the cheek to accuse the leave side of illegal spending? more Nonsense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And you think that was fair that the remain positioned government with all its lies, money, no - my tax money, and machinery behind it campaigned for leave without giving equal succour and resource to the leave side? and then has the cheek to accuse the leave side of illegal spending? more Nonsense.

    Guess you're stuck in the EU for another six months, bub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Guess you're stuck in the EU for another six months, bub.
    But it was no-deal by default, it can't be another six months!
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before.

    A bunch of times actually.

  17. #17917
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And you think that was fair that the remain positioned government with all its lies, money, no - my tax money, and machinery behind it campaigned for leave without giving equal succour and resource to the leave side? and then has the cheek to accuse the leave side of illegal spending? more Nonsense.
    They accused Leave of spending dirty money, and were proven correct, and Leave accepted their guilt. Your point about fairness was what, again?

  18. #17918
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And you think that was fair that the remain positioned government with all its lies, money, no - my tax money, and machinery behind it campaigned for leave without giving equal succour and resource to the leave side? and then has the cheek to accuse the leave side of illegal spending? more Nonsense.
    As usual, reality has to intrude into planet dribbles. The Remain side were fined for some minor issues, certainly. But Leave were fined for a whole raft of issues with the setup of their campaign, the spending and so on. And if the referendum had been legally binding, it would have faced a challenge to its legality that would almost certainly have found it overturned. It was only the fact (I'll explain that word to you if you want, you don't seem to understand what it means) that it wasn't binding that meant it couldn't be challenged legally.

    It's an interesting turn from you though. Now that you know you've lost, you are starting to whine like a child that the whole thing isn't fair. The very thing you were lambasting about Remain voters, and now the boots on the other foot that's your go-to move. I'm not sure what stage of grief you are on now, but it does feel close to the end. So chin up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    But it was no-deal by default, it can't be another six months!
    He might actually have an aneurysm if Article 50 gets withdrawn.
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  20. #17920
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And you think that was fair that the remain positioned government with all its lies, money, no - my tax money, and machinery behind it campaigned for leave without giving equal succour and resource to the leave side? and then has the cheek to accuse the leave side of illegal spending? more Nonsense.

    Pro-Brexit facts... Biggest example of an Oxymoron I have seen this past decade.

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