View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #18261
    Well, it would be a pretty amazing strategy for destroying the UK utterly:

    27 capitals nuked means 27 US embassies destroyed. Tens of thousands of business-people, students and tourists - US citizens all - slaughtered with weapons of mass destruction. It would a piece of hard work for the doves in the US congress to prevent the hawks from turning London in to a glow-in-the-dark parking lot in retaliation, and just settle for total enforced disarmament and a nice war-crimes tribunal.

  2. #18262
    Quote Originally Posted by Gibblewink View Post
    Well, it would be a pretty amazing strategy for destroying the UK utterly:

    27 capitals nuked means 27 US embassies destroyed. Tens of thousands of business-people, students and tourists - US citizens all - slaughtered with weapons of mass destruction. It would a piece of hard work for the doves in the US congress to prevent the hawks from turning London in to a glow-in-the-dark parking lot in retaliation, and just settle for total enforced disarmament and a nice war-crimes tribunal.
    Let me stop you right here. This is just a mad fantasy. It will never happen. It's foolish to start talking like that. The British are our friends and they will remain our friends, whether they are in the EU or not. Killers and sociopaths like Dribbles don't matter. He's an insignificant minority. He does not represent anyone but the lunatics and anarchists.
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  3. #18263
    Certainly. Just thought I'd point out that once again Dribbles didn't think through his little power fantasies.
    I have no wish to see the UK as a whole come to harm, nor for that matter most Brexiteers - history's judgement will suffice there.

  4. #18264
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Well there is a lot of radiation about this sunny bank holiday, perhaps another cucumber sandwich is in order, however...

    The poster painted a scenario whereby the EU has threatened the very existence of the UK. Do you think anyone other than our current Chamberlainesque PM would not retaliate? This window of appeasement that the EU is very lucky to have at the minute from our weak PM is closing. I hope they are prepared for whoever comes after Theresa May and are very careful about the next steps.



    It has already been proposed that it would be moved to England in advance of any Scottish separation.
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  5. #18265
    So do we have any idea when we can expect anything of value to happen in this drama? Is anything scheduled for after the Easter recess?

  6. #18266
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    So do we have any idea when we can expect anything of value to happen in this drama? Is anything scheduled for after the Easter recess?
    Wouldn't expect anything of note to happen before the EU elections in about a month from now.

  7. #18267
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    You originally claimed that it was a "pretty safe assumption" that France would not be bothered about migrant camps post Brexit and now you're going on about Le Pen??? Bizarre.
    My point is that migrants that leave for the UK won't be Frances problem anymore, as they would be while the UK is part of the EU. Migrant camps were an example of them being stuck in France and being France's problem regardless if they made it to the UK or not, but this will be an issue for migrants in generel.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8745121.html


    Add Macrons worsen public ratings and a more right orientated President isnt unimaginable. Sorry if you fail to see the bigger picture, well not sorry but /shrug.

  8. #18268
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    My point is that migrants that leave for the UK won't be Frances problem anymore, as they would be while the UK is part of the EU. Migrant camps were an example of them being stuck in France and being France's problem regardless if they made it to the UK or not, but this will be an issue for migrants in generel.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8745121.html


    Add Macrons worsen public ratings and a more right orientated President isnt unimaginable. Sorry if you fail to see the bigger picture, well not sorry but /shrug.
    Your point was and continues to be wrong. The current UK/France border arrangements are a result of a bilateral agreement between France and the UK which is independent of the EU and will continue regardless of the UK's EU membership until either country gives notice of its intention to cancel this agreement.

    Macron's (lack of) popularity has nothing to do with your original point nor does his ratings make your point correct. Bigger picture!?! Don't make me laugh!

  9. #18269
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Your point was and continues to be wrong. The current UK/France border arrangements are a result of a bilateral agreement between France and the UK which is independent of the EU and will continue regardless of the UK's EU membership until either country gives notice of its intention to cancel this agreement.

    Macron's (lack of) popularity has nothing to do with your original point nor does his ratings make your point correct. Bigger picture!?! Don't make me laugh!
    Highlighted where our difference in opinion lies. I'm not talking about after noon next saturday. Sending back immigrants is under the Dublin convention which is an EU law. France can cancel the Touquet agreement simply by informing the UK that it'll do so.

  10. #18270
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Highlighted where our difference in opinion lies. I'm not talking about after noon next saturday. Sending back immigrants is under the Dublin convention which is an EU law. France can cancel the Touquet agreement simply by informing the UK that it'll do so.
    Highlighting one word in my post doesn't suddenly make your nonsense point any less nonsense.

    Dublin III Regulation is designed to establish which member state is responsible for processing the asylum claim which should be the first member state where the asylum seeker entered the EU. As such a member state is under no obligation to process an illegal immigrant's asylum claim and they are free return the asylum seeker to the member state where they first entered the EU. It does not mean that several member states can allow illegal immigrants to pass through them on route to the UK and then absolve their responsibilities when the UK refuses entry.
    Last edited by Pann; 2019-04-22 at 08:11 AM.

  11. #18271
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Highlighting one word in my post doesn't suddenly make your nonsense point any less nonsense.

    Dublin III Regulation is designed to establish which member state is responsible for processing the asylum claim which should be the first member state where the asylum seeker entered the EU. As such a member state is under no obligation to process an illegal immigrant's asylum claim and they are free return the asylum seeker to the member state where they first entered the EU. It does not mean that several member states can allow illegal immigrants to pass through them on route to the UK and then absolve their responsibilities when the UK refuses entry.
    Aren't we discussing what happens after the UK is NO longer a member and thus is not bound to the Dublin convention?

  12. #18272
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Aren't we discussing what happens after the UK is NO longer a member and thus is not bound to the Dublin convention?
    What stops UK from just shipping unwanted migrants to EU like Libya then?

    If they are not bound by EU regulations, they don't have to accept them either.

  13. #18273
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Highlighting one word in my post doesn't suddenly make your nonsense point any less nonsense.

    Dublin III Regulation is designed to establish which member state is responsible for processing the asylum claim which should be the first member state where the asylum seeker entered the EU. As such a member state is under no obligation to process an illegal immigrant's asylum claim and they are free return the asylum seeker to the member state where they first entered the EU. It does not mean that several member states can allow illegal immigrants to pass through them on route to the UK and then absolve their responsibilities when the UK refuses entry.
    Thanks for that long irrelevant post. The UK is leaving the EU remember. That hightlighted word were a helping hand in the perspective of my post. Which were an extension of a long list of ‘what if’s’, yet you prefered to nitpick on a small part of a post apparently taken out of a longer context.
    Last edited by Crispin; 2019-04-22 at 09:19 AM.

  14. #18274
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Oh you think that France won't be too bothered about letting the migrant camps they have now and then near the canal, take their chances at getting to England if Brexit at some point becomes reality? Pretty sure that's a safe assumption to make. When the UK then asks France to take them back, it'll be /shrug, not France's issue.
    I agree. The issue as it stands with the Calais migrant camps is a joint issue (or at least supposed to be). It won't be that way for much longer, or at least it will become a lot more complicated. However people think they are sticking one in the eye of Johnny Foreigner, land of hope and glory and all of that jazz, so just now I don't imagine too many people care about that at this moment in time.
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  15. #18275
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Plenty of things can happen without declaration of war.
    War for example, as your exampel shows, but that is not the point here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    What stops UK from just shipping unwanted migrants to EU like Libya then?

    If they are not bound by EU regulations, they don't have to accept them either.
    They cannot land them without the EU's (or respective member state's) agreement (or they would be declaring war).

  16. #18276
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    They cannot land them without the EU's (or respective member state's) agreement (or they would be declaring war).
    Really? Is that only worked for Libya because EU members already declared war on it previously?

  17. #18277
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    So do we have any idea when we can expect anything of value to happen in this drama? Is anything scheduled for after the Easter recess?
    Well, the most value we're getting is that the UK's current behaviour is shifting the mood in the EU. There's a FT.com article hinting that October will be the final deadline as European leaders witness the UK doing fuck all to address the situation right now and the only political noise out of the UK comes from Farage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehealadin View Post
    I agree. The issue as it stands with the Calais migrant camps is a joint issue (or at least supposed to be). It won't be that way for much longer, or at least it will become a lot more complicated. However people think they are sticking one in the eye of Johnny Foreigner, land of hope and glory and all of that jazz, so just now I don't imagine too many people care about that at this moment in time.
    You guys realise that Calais hasn't existed since 2016, when it was cleared, right? I mean, of course racist bigots conveniently forget to remind the public that the scare they used to rile everyone up vanished, but really... you need to stop discussing fantasies.
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  18. #18278
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    effectively a declaration of war by the EU on the UK. The EU started it.

    But yes in those circumstances we would respond. Bigly.
    Strongly beginning to suspect that you aren't actually British.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    I think his point is: Amalaric is trolling.

    However, if you discard the confrontational tone of Amalaric's bullet points e.g., the EU will force the UK and so on, there are important points a Brexiteer should cede here.
    Yeah I do legitimately want to know what the fuck the plan with Gibraltar is.

    And of course Ireland as we all know. Except maybe drib-drib.
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  19. #18279
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Well, the most value we're getting is that the UK's current behaviour is shifting the mood in the EU. There's a FT.com article hinting that October will be the final deadline as European leaders witness the UK doing fuck all to address the situation right now and the only political noise out of the UK comes from Farage...
    More than just noise, some would say an unstoppable force. This man is raising £50 a minute from UK voters to use against the EU and deliver democracy to the people, whilst the Tories are going bust...

    Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party has signed up 60,000 paying supporters in just nine days with £50 a minute boosting its coffers

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/890622...ly-nottingham/


  20. #18280
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Thanks for that long irrelevant post. The UK is leaving the EU remember. That hightlighted word were a helping hand in the perspective of my post. Which were an extension of a long list of ‘what if’s’, yet you prefered to nitpick on a small part of a post apparently taken out of a longer context.
    No problem, although I see that it has advanced your understanding of the issue no further. As I said the highlighted word does not make your perspective correct. I am not nitpicking you made a statement that was incorrect and are, as usual, trying to shift the goalposts in order to avoid acknowledging you have no idea what you're talking about.

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