View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #18301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    They will tell us that Brexit has the support of about 30% of those that vote. Or about 20% of the voters. Or about 12% of the country. Dribbles will then tell us that means that democratically we should leave, nuke the EU and crucify all the unbelievers in this country.

    Personally I'm looking forward to an investigation into exactly where this money is coming from. Because Farage is, and always has been, a lying fuck. If he is telling us it's all coming from individuals, it's a racing certainty that a bunch of it is coming from somewhere else. I'm pretty sure that there is oversight around this, and based on how stupid the Brexit crowd has been in the past, the chances of them getting caught are pretty high.
    What is there to investigate? The UK electoral process is very transparent and open to all. It is just sour grapes on the part of fringe remain party supporters such as yourself that you want to interrogate the contents of tens of thousands of mainstream brexiteers back pockets who choose to spend their hard earned on the Brexit party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    Yet again you show you know fuck all about the EU.

    MEPs vote on European Union business. How to implement Brexit is not European Union business. MEPs have no say in whether or not to grant an extension to Brexit. That decision is made by the heads of government of the member states and Donald Tusk.

    Therefore MEPs like Farage and his bunch of otherwise unelectable individuals and the BNP/EDL neo-nazis that have taken over UKIP (i.e. the ones you want to win) will not be able to influence how Brexit happens.

    If you want to influence how Brexit happens (and overcome the 400+ vote majority for not leaving without a deal) you need to vote for MPs in Westminster.

    Your falling for Farage's latest publicity stunt won't change a thing.
    The very fact the UK is compelled to send MEP's to the EU is a disgrace. The will of the people is that the UK wants nothing to do with EU business and yet the EU occupying force makes us. So damn right the UK will send the most anti EU MEP's possible.

    As for Farage having no influence over brexit that is laughable. The only reason there was a brexit referendum in the first place was because of our Nigel. The only reason the Tory and Labour party are shitting their pants over their respective brexit policies right now is because of our Nigel.

    Farage gave the UK its brexit referendum and is shaping the very essence of UK government/opposition brexit policy right now as you read.

    The only reason Prime Minister Theresa May is to face an unprecedented no-confidence challenge - from Conservative grassroots campaigners.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48011201

    is because of our Nigel. No influence? You are in cloud Cuckeu land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What is there to investigate? The UK electoral process is very transparent and open to all. It is just sour grapes on the part of fringe remain party supporters such as yourself that you want to interrogate the contents of tens of thousands of mainstream brexiteers back pockets who choose to spend their hard earned on the Brexit party.
    It is proven fact that the money was spent illegally.

    The very fact the UK is compelled to send MEP's to the EU is a disgrace. The will of the people is that the UK wants nothing to do with EU business and yet the EU occupying force makes us. So damn right the UK will send the most anti EU MEP's possible.
    So you want no representation in Europe while the UK leaves? You are happy to take every rule Brussels thinks of until October and apply it to UK law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    It is proven fact that the money was spent illegally.



    So you want no representation in Europe while the UK leaves? You are happy to take every rule Brussels thinks of until October and apply it to UK law?
    occupying forces? what the hell are you smoking Dribbles?
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    Non-ironically saying "EU occupying force" should immediately disqualify you from so many things...
    Let's ignore repeated use of "our Nigel", that's cringey AF.
    Often updated... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The very fact the UK is compelled to send MEP's to the EU is a disgrace. The will of the people is that the UK wants nothing to do with EU business and yet the EU occupying force makes us.
    The UK could have been out of the EU on march 29th. UK Parliament voted several times that they don't want to leave with the deal UK government negociated. They also voted not wanting to leave without a deal.

    The EU isn't forcing this, the UK not leaving is forcing herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    The EU isn't forcing this, the UK not leaving is forcing herself.
    This line could sum up EVERYTHING that has happened since the vote that it is such on point.

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    I just want someone to prove to me that "the will of the people" is the exact same as it was over 2 years ago (just barely) and that it's the exact same people totaling the exact same amount that voted for Leave.
    Often updated... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    The UK could have been out of the EU on march 29th. UK Parliament voted several times that they don't want to leave with the deal UK government negociated. They also voted not wanting to leave without a deal.

    The EU isn't forcing this, the UK not leaving is forcing herself.
    Of course the EU is forcing it. It knows the people of the UK want to leave it as proven in a democratic referendum, it also knows the UK has a pathetic PM and parliament at the minute and has used that to impose an unwanted undemocratic extension upon the backs of UK citizens.

    Honestly the EU is lucky that only sensible moderates like Boris Johnson or possibly Nigel Farage are likely to follow Theresa the appeaser,it could have beem so much worse with the likes of Sargon of Akkad now entering the fray.

    Don't believe me? Here is what tory mp's are retweeting today (peter bone MP)...

    Tory grassroots, the most loyal of the party’s tribe demanding @theresa_may goes. It’s now not if but when

    https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/st...30443264593920

    The UK wants to leave the EU and leave it will. The EU should be asking itself will it get a better deal with the likes of Theresa May? Or Boris or much much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The UK wants to leave the EU and leave it will. The EU should be asking itself will it get a better deal with the likes of Theresa May? Or Boris or much much worse.
    The UK should be asking itself what kind of deal it wants, because it isn't "no deal".

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    How the hell is the EU forcing anything if your elementary school of a government can't even pass some simple votes that bring a solution ???

    Like stated you could very well have been out by 29 March but instead your government played a little kids game of '' we don't want May's deal but we also vote against No Deal and meanwhile we shoot down 8 different votes on how to get out of this pickle ''

    The whole reason why you are heading for EU elections is because of YOUR government and it's inability to decide anything about Brexit, the EU forced no extension upon you, the extension was asked by your PM, up to two times now.

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    the EU election of 2019 was scheduled for spring long ago; to avoid it UK would have to exit on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The very fact the UK is compelled to send MEP's to the EU is a disgrace. The will of the people is that the UK wants nothing to do with EU business and yet the EU occupying force makes us. So damn right the UK will send the most anti EU MEP's possible.
    The EU has no military nor a police. It can - by definition - not be an occupying force. If EU regulations are enforced, they are enforced by the member state and its executive/judiciary. In your case, the UK.

    Of course, that doesn't concern killers like you. You just want violence and death for people, right?
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    ok, it begs the question what would happen if UK denies its citizens the vote late in may. would EU enforce it and order a ballot weeks later or what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    ok, it begs the question what would happen if UK denies its citizens the vote late in may. would EU enforce it and order a ballot weeks later or what ?
    The UK government has already issued the order to hold elections in May. So long as the UK is in the EU on 23 May, it has to hold the elections under British law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    ok, it begs the question what would happen if UK denies its citizens the vote late in may. would EU enforce it and order a ballot weeks later or what ?
    Well the government has already ordered the elections to be held. But if for arguments sake it doesn't happen. Simply put EU would consider it the UK deciding it was leaving at that point in time with no deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    The UK government has already issued the order to hold elections in May. So long as the UK is in the EU on 23 May, it has to hold the elections under British law.
    ok, so far they do not play dumb and hope for brexit in 4 weeks time by doing nothing in preparation for elections. but at the same time EU could not really enforce it ?


    ah, i see: no EU elections means no deal brexit by default. and nobody is so brave and stirs that pot
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    ok, it begs the question what would happen if UK denies its citizens the vote late in may. would EU enforce it and order a ballot weeks later or what ?
    The EU couldn't enforce a vote. The EU would probably start a process to sanction the UK for breaking the treaty and not fulfilling its obligations. Such a procedure would most likely end in the UK losing its voice in the Council (and fines the UK wouldn't be interested in paying anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    ok, so far they do not play dumb and hope for brexit in 4 weeks time by doing nothing in preparation for elections. but at the same time EU could not really enforce it ?


    ah, i see: no EU elections means no deal brexit by default. and nobody is so brave and stirs that pot
    EU elections and Brexit aren't necessarily connected other than that the elections put a time table on the Brexit schedule with a few dates to observe for certain consequences.

    The EU cannot arbitrarily decide when the UK leaves. As far as I remember, having skimmed the document, the EU is held to the October date. Only the UK can end the term early.
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  18. #18318
    So...

    What's happening in parliament this week? Anything juicy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    So...

    What's happening in parliament this week? Anything juicy?
    They're on vacation, aren't they? Since they don't have any pressing matters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluFF View Post
    How the hell is the EU forcing anything if your elementary school of a government can't even pass some simple votes that bring a solution ???

    Like stated you could very well have been out by 29 March but instead your government played a little kids game of '' we don't want May's deal but we also vote against No Deal and meanwhile we shoot down 8 different votes on how to get out of this pickle ''

    The whole reason why you are heading for EU elections is because of YOUR government and it's inability to decide anything about Brexit, the EU forced no extension upon you, the extension was asked by your PM, up to two times now.
    Oh I agree the current UK government is useless. But there are 2 sides. EU citizens voted to leave the EU, the EU should have enabled its citizens to do just that if it was in any shape or form democratic. It didn't and colluded with the UK government to stop Brexit. The EU is as much to blame for this mess as the UK government.

    And just as useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    The EU has no military nor a police. It can - by definition - not be an occupying force. If EU regulations are enforced, they are enforced by the member state and its executive/judiciary. In your case, the UK.

    Of course, that doesn't concern killers like you. You just want violence and death for people, right?
    It is in a colonialist way occupying and ruling a country against the wishes of those citizens. I understand why you empire building EU fanatics support that, but you are doomed to fail. Again.

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