View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #18621
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    So you were absolutely never going to vote for Sargon of Akkad? That was all Dribbles jokes or what?


    UKIP who?
    Sure prior to the Brexit party launch I looked at Sargon but UKIP have moved too far from the moderate centre ground that people like me occupy. The centre 85% of ordinary Joes, such as I, that voted for parties that promised to respect the Brexit referendum result are not going to switch votes en masse for UKIP again.

    UKIP leavers now are the polar opposite to their equivalent remainers at the other extreme that would be the Lib Dems/Greens/etc

    I expect a few nutters will still vote for UKIP, just like they will their opposites the Lib Dems/Greens/Bucketheads/Monster raving loonies of this world.

    But the centre? No, that's going to Brexit party with 85% of the vote up for grabs. And those very few non fanatical moderates left that still want to remain, and don't want to vote for fruitcake parties, are fucked with their diluted vote split between an ever increasing number of non effective parties. Who do they vote for ChangeUK on what currently 9% of the vote? Even that option is not a guaranteed remain, but another referendum. Which to leave would win yet again.

    With one party to unite behind and a fractured remain kaleidoscope of options we brexiteers cannot lose, believe me.

    Meanwhile I see Verhofstadt is coming to knock on UK doors next Friday to campaign for the Lib Dems in the EU elections.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...-jeremy-corbyn

    Mr Verhofstadt is planning to knock on doors in Britain. The Belgian national, who is seeking re-election to the chamber himself, will travel over by Eurostar from Brussels to join Lib Dem canvassers on the doorstep on Friday

    Watch as afterwards the Lib Dem vote share plummets towards electoral oblivion. What a Guy! Bwahhhahahahaaa...

  2. #18622
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    UKIP have moved too far from the moderate centre ground that people like me occupy
    Farage and Widdecombe, shining lights of the centre ground in British politics

    Out of interest @dribbles, what have UKIP done since introducing Sargon as a candidate that caused you to go from being super keen to vote for them to thinking they are all nutters? Presumably it would have to have been something major?
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-05-04 at 03:58 PM.

  3. #18623
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Farage and Widdecombe, shining lights of the centre ground in British politics

    Out of interest @dribbles, what have UKIP done since introducing Sargon as a candidate that caused you to go from being super keen to vote for them to thinking they are all nutters? Presumably it would have to have been something major?
    Can't pretend not to be racist if you're voting for a party that has Sargon as a candidate. The Brexit party puts a (very) thin veneer of acceptability on xenophobia and somewhat casual racism.
    Last edited by Butler to Baby Sloths; 2019-05-04 at 04:34 PM.

  4. #18624


    Brexit party rallies certainly seem representative of the UK as a whole

  5. #18625
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    UKIP leavers now are the polar opposite to their equivalent remainers at the other extreme that would be the Lib Dems/Greens/etc

    I expect a few nutters will still vote for UKIP, just like they will their opposites the Lib Dems/Greens/Bucketheads/Monster raving loonies of this world.
    I know I shouldn’t take the bait but I can’t help it.

    Every time you write something like this it just makes me take Pann a little less seriously when he says that we should take you seriously.

    You’re the antithesis of a Corbynista: seeking to drag the political centre to the right instead of the left.

    Good Twitter thread here:

    https://twitter.com/NickWhithorn/sta...34855805812736

    In short: Umberto Eco identified 14 typical features of fascism. At least 10 of them have manifested themselves during the brexit process:

    1. Cult of tradition
    2. Cult of action for action’s sake
    3. Disagreement is treason
    4. Fear of difference
    5. Appeal to social frustration
    6. Obsession with plot
    7. The enemy is both strong and weak
    8. Machismo and weaponry
    9. Selective populism
    10. Newspeak/impoverished language

    It’s dangerous stuff and needs to be called out as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Brexit party rallies certainly seem representative of the UK as a whole
    Spot the person who isn't white or collecting a pension.

  7. #18627
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Every time you write something like this it just makes me take Pann a little less seriously when he says that we should take you seriously.
    I'm not sure why you're having a dig at me or why you're putting words in my mouth.

    If, after three years, you can't recognise when Dribbles is being serious or when he is, very obviously, winding you up it really is nothing to do with me.

  8. #18628
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I'm not sure why you're having a dig at me or why you're putting words in my mouth.

    If, after three years, you can't recognise when Dribbles is being serious or when he is, very obviously, winding you up it really is nothing to do with me.
    If you can't tell that what Dribbles states is basically what your average brexiteer states in conversation offline then you really have no hope in the real world.

  9. #18629
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    If you can't tell that what Dribbles states is basically what your average brexiteer states in conversation offline then you really have no hope in the real world.
    Is there any point to your post?

  10. #18630
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Is there any point to your post?
    Pointing out that Dribbles is basically always serious in his reasoning no matter how psychotic it is and isn't just some winding up people. Unless you're living in remain central then you'd know this and not be jumping to his defense 24/7 in some sort of meager attempt to reach over to people who have slapped the hand away for decades.

  11. #18631
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Pointing out that Dribbles is basically always serious in his reasoning no matter how psychotic it is and isn't just some winding up people. Unless you're living in remain central then you'd know this and not be jumping to his defense 24/7 in some sort of meager attempt to reach over to people who have slapped the hand away for decades.
    You could have just said 'no' it would have been shorter and less ridiculous.

  12. #18632
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Pointing out that Dribbles is basically always serious in his reasoning no matter how psychotic it is and isn't just some winding up people. Unless you're living in remain central then you'd know this and not be jumping to his defense 24/7 in some sort of meager attempt to reach over to people who have slapped the hand away for decades.
    To be fair to @Pann, he probably thinks the people quoted in this thread are all joking as well
    I mention Theresa May’s name to @brexitparty_uk rally crowd:

    “REMAINER COWARD!” Came the reply.

    “Liar! Liar! She is just a disgusting liar“ says another.
    Why are you here today, I ask a man in the crowd.

    “Because we’re patriots.”

    Are members of other parties, not patriots I reply.

    “No, they’re not.” Cue cheers from the crowd.
    Widdecombe: “If we have a customs union- will we have left?”

    “NO!” Screams the crowd

    “If we have May’s deal, will we have left?”

    “NO!” Screams the crowd.
    Farage asks if the crowd feels sorry for Theresa May after last night’s drubbing.

    “Lock her up!” a few in the crowd shouts back.
    Farage mentions the name of a North West Labour candidate for the Euros now backing another referendum. A woman next to me, with real vitriol, mutters “bastard” under her breath.
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-05-04 at 09:20 PM.

  13. #18633
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I'm not sure why you're having a dig at me or why you're putting words in my mouth.

    If, after three years, you can't recognise when Dribbles is being serious or when he is, very obviously, winding you up it really is nothing to do with me.
    I’m not having a dig, Pann. I’m just stating facts. You’ve often objected to posters flying off the handle at Dribbles.

    The problem is that he’s conflating two things:

    a) wind up Nigel with completely inaccurate, unreasonable & bizarre statements
    b) while letting an undercurrent of genuine belief trickle to the surface

    Your attitude towards Dribbles has always been “he’s not being serious” / “he’s writing in a certain style to wind up Remainers”. Some posters have accused Dribbles of trolling; I don’t think he’s ever been a troll. I just wish he’d be a little more honest about his views rather than making ludicrous statements as above? Or do you not think what he’s written above is ludicrous?

    I’m not entirely sure it’s possible to claim the moral high ground against e.g., CTD for saying something ludicrous when Dribbles regularly does exactly the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    /snip
    Yep, exactly. Personally, I think it's disturbing but I'm sure I'll be told otherwise.

  14. #18634
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Your attitude towards Dribbles has always been “he’s not being serious” / “he’s writing in a certain style to wind up Remainers”. Some posters have accused Dribbles of trolling; I don’t think he’s ever been a troll. I just wish he’d be a little more honest about his views rather than making ludicrous statements as above? Or do you not think what he’s written above is ludicrous?

    I’m not entirely sure it’s possible to claim the moral high ground against e.g., CTD for saying something ludicrous when Dribbles regularly does exactly the same?
    If you can't see that Dribbles is a windup merchant then, as I said, that's on you. If you try he will, sometimes, engage you in a sensible conversation and I have to say on the occasions I've had conversations with him he has often been better informed than his detractors and less likely to resort insults or misrepresentation. Why not try it sometime? You might find out that those leavers aren't all that bad.

    Are you seriously asking if comparing the Lib Dems to UKIP is a ludicrous statement? Really?

    But, yeah, obviously posting ludicrous things is justification for calling someone a pedo!?!

    Oh, I clicked view on the post you've quoted above but snipped and it is because of these moronic comments why I have Dizzeeyoo on ignore.
    Last edited by Pann; 2019-05-04 at 09:54 PM.

  15. #18635
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Personally, I think it's disturbing but I'm sure I'll be told otherwise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    You might find out that those leavers aren't all that bad.
    Well you didn't have long to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    it is because of these moronic comments why I have Dizzeeyoo on ignore.
    So do you think the good people of Blackpool are joking? I can't tell from this, unfortunately
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-05-04 at 10:04 PM.

  16. #18636
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Labour and tories get hit hard.

    UKIP take a beating

    LD and Greens get a boost

    Tories and Labour response "Well it's because people want brexit."

    Me: .... How do you get to that conclusion?

    I'm not even sure we can get a true conclusion from this. Some areas had no Tory, no Labour. Many others had no of the others. Then we have low turn out. Only conclusion we can get is that of the low turnour there was a massive FU to Tories, a big but not as big FU to Labour, Big boost for LD and Greens, Independents got a lot too but unless we check every one of them we can't be sure where they fall on policies including Brexit.
    Isn't that just local council elections? I mean, do people not vote on other issues than Brexit anymore in the UK? Like local roads, council tax, getting rid of those power outages, attracting more tourists... that kinda stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Farage and Widdecombe, shining lights of the centre ground in British politics

    Out of interest @dribbles, what have UKIP done since introducing Sargon as a candidate that caused you to go from being super keen to vote for them to thinking they are all nutters? Presumably it would have to have been something major?
    He found an idiot party that is even dumber than UKIP: The Brexit Party!
    “It’s majoritarian, the majority wins, it’s ruled by the majority for the majority – sod the minority. Whereas true democracy includes everybody’s opinion in society,” - Margaret Georgiadou, 2019 about Brexit referendum.
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  17. #18637
    Separate issue but doesn’t everyone find ignore a complete waste of time? You’d have to be permanently signed in. Half the time I browse, I’m not signed in.

  18. #18638
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Separate issue but doesn’t everyone find ignore a complete waste of time? You’d have to be permanently signed in. Half the time I browse, I’m not signed in.
    Nope, given the bollocks and general unpleasantness regularly posted in this thread it makes browsing it a much more pleasurable experience.

  19. #18639
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Farage and Widdecombe, shining lights of the centre ground in British politics

    Out of interest @dribbles, what have UKIP done since introducing Sargon as a candidate that caused you to go from being super keen to vote for them to thinking they are all nutters? Presumably it would have to have been something major?
    I think UKIP flirting with advice from Tommy Robinson, the Sargon guy and the chap with the Nazi dog is too much. They are still useful in that extremists without access to something like UKIP could very well infect other more moderate parties, so hopefully they will be about for sometime yet. It is an outlet for them...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Brexit party rallies certainly seem representative of the UK as a whole
    Look, the majority of remainers live in multicultural inner city urban ghettos, much of England Scotland and Wales outside of these sewer places still look very much like the scene contained in your picture. It might but really shouldn't surprise you if you are British that some people, such as myself, need to drive for almost an hour to come across anyone with a different skin colour.

    If I chose to, I could spend the rest of my life not meeting any. Many people who live here, but not I, do quite happily make that choice. What's wrong with that?

    Remove yourself from the London bubble, or equivalent other city cesspit type places, it is a very very different world. Might be very scary for remainers to not be so blinkered though, go on open your mind. I dare you!

    And your picture only scratches the surface of it. If only you knew...

  20. #18640
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Separate issue but doesn’t everyone find ignore a complete waste of time? You’d have to be permanently signed in. Half the time I browse, I’m not signed in.
    I'm legit always signed in when I visit this site.
    “It’s majoritarian, the majority wins, it’s ruled by the majority for the majority – sod the minority. Whereas true democracy includes everybody’s opinion in society,” - Margaret Georgiadou, 2019 about Brexit referendum.
    PSA: Being a volunteer is no excuse to make a shite job of it.

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