View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #18641
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Ewige Blumenkraft!
    Nova Rock 2019!! \o/
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    So, are we taking bets on Honda confirming they're going to shut down the Swindon plant being down to Brexit or... ?

    I mean, I was told this wouldn't happen.

  3. #18643
    Fuck me, this is just getting so desperately boring now:

    Tory - Labour talks getting nowhere

    Both Labour & the Tories need to fracture (and get a move on with it) and the fallout is dealt with or there has to be a second referendum. This can't go on.

    With only a couple of exceptions, both front benches should be shipped off to Siberia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    With only a couple of exceptions, both front benches should be shipped off to Siberia.
    What did Siberia ever do to you?

    But yes, you're not wrong.
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    Damnit hubcap, you are such a retard.
    Seriously guys, this forum would be a better place if everyone just stopped acknowledging Zenkai. It's just demeaning to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Fuck me, this is just getting so desperately boring now:

    Tory - Labour talks getting nowhere

    Both Labour & the Tories need to fracture (and get a move on with it) and the fallout is dealt with or there has to be a second referendum. This can't go on.

    With only a couple of exceptions, both front benches should be shipped off to Siberia.
    But what then ? a new round of votes in Commons, leading nowhere ? how to push both front benches into second ref ? IMHO you wll have to drag the Tories into referendum by their feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Fuck me, this is just getting so desperately boring now:

    Tory - Labour talks getting nowhere

    Both Labour & the Tories need to fracture (and get a move on with it) and the fallout is dealt with or there has to be a second referendum. This can't go on.

    With only a couple of exceptions, both front benches should be shipped off to Siberia.
    Labour to me are dead now while Corbyn is leader. Both them and Conservatives can burn in a fire.

  7. #18647
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Labour to me are dead now while Corbyn is leader. Both them and Conservatives can burn in a fire.
    It's a great shame for me really. Was looking forward to a bit of genuine left wing British socialism but can't vote for Labour atm because of the Brexit stance. I'll be voting for any Remain party that performs well in my constituency until this is done in all forth coming elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    What did Siberia ever do to you?
    Yep, fair enough… I’ve never been!

    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    But what then ? a new round of votes in Commons, leading nowhere ? how to push both front benches into second ref ? IMHO you wll have to drag the Tories into referendum by their feet
    It’s more - I can’t see how this can be resolved without a second ref? As long as both parties exist under current leadership.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Labour to me are dead now while Corbyn is leader. Both them and Conservatives can burn in a fire.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    It's a great shame for me really. Was looking forward to a bit of genuine left wing British socialism but can't vote for Labour atm because of the Brexit stance. I'll be voting for any Remain party that performs well in my constituency until this is done in all forth coming elections.
    Yes. Had it not been for Europe, I was v nearly there (not that it’d matter anyway - FPTP)

    Burner will be along shortly to tell me Labour doesn’t need my middle class vote.

    /whispers - little do they know IN SWING SEATS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    It's a great shame for me really. Was looking forward to a bit of genuine left wing British socialism but can't vote for Labour atm because of the Brexit stance. I'll be voting for any Remain party that performs well in my constituency until this is done in all forth coming elections.
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post

    Yes. Had it not been for Europe, I was v nearly there (not that it’d matter anyway - FPTP)

    Burner will be along shortly to tell me Labour doesn’t need my middle class vote.

    /whispers - little do they know IN SWING SEATS
    It's not just Europe. Honestly the final straw was finding out about Corbyn writing the forward in the Anti semetic book and calling it great. (In before the man with 100001 dupe accounts trying to spin it as not anti semetic).

    Where I live is basically safe for Tories so fuck it. Unless there's a major chance Labour might win here which is highly unlikely I'm just putting my X next to LD/Green/Change from now on. Depending on who has best chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    It's not just Europe. Honestly the final straw was finding out about Corbyn writing the forward in the Anti semetic book and calling it great. (In before the man with 100001 dupe accounts trying to spin it as not anti semetic).
    1902 book called "Imperialism: A Study"

    ...remind me, which Jewish empires were active at the time?

    Contemporary notes about empires at the time are mostly interesting from historical perspective; and sure, plenty of authors back then were anti-semitic - plenty of countries had limits on where jewish people could live or where they could work. It's 1902...
    Last edited by Shalcker; 2019-05-14 at 08:04 AM.

  11. #18651
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Fuck me, this is just getting so desperately boring now:

    Tory - Labour talks getting nowhere

    Both Labour & the Tories need to fracture (and get a move on with it) and the fallout is dealt with or there has to be a second referendum. This can't go on.

    With only a couple of exceptions, both front benches should be shipped off to Siberia.
    I read through that article and I have to ask, what exactly are you expecting from Labour?
    Hail Lilith and see you in Hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    1902 book called "Imperialism: A Study"

    ...remind me, which Jewish empires were active at the time?

    Contemporary notes about empires at the time are mostly interesting from historical perspective; and sure, plenty of authors back then were anti-semitic - plenty of countries had limits on where jewish people could live or where they could work. It's 1902...
    The racist remarks are even on the wikipedia page... you could've just looked them up, but instead you chose to butt in and make a fool out of yourself, as per usual.

    Also, excusing racism is generally a bad idea, unless you want to be viewed as a racist, then it's really good, well done.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    The racist remarks are even on the wikipedia page... you could've just looked them up, but instead you chose to butt in and make a fool out of yourself, as per usual.
    Checked wiki, it doesn't look out of the line for that period at all. Just typical stereotyping.

    Also, excusing racism is generally a bad idea, unless you want to be viewed as a racist, then it's really good, well done.
    How do you excuse racism by giving foreword to a book that primarily studies imperialism and capitalism?

    Did Corbyn supported anti-semitic views in that particular foreword or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Checked wiki, it doesn't look out of the line for that period at all. Just typical stereotyping.
    That doesn't make it not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    How do you excuse racism by giving foreword to a book that primarily studies imperialism and capitalism?

    Did Corbyn supported anti-semitic views in that particular foreword or what?
    I was talking about you.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    That doesn't make it not racist.
    Are you going to accuse Newton of being religious too?

    I was talking about you.
    Where do i excuse racism though? It was one of prevailing opinions at the time.

    That doesn't mean everything else from same times/authors has no value at all. Normal people can separate observations (still useful) and opinions, as well as see where the author is holding position that was refuted later.

  16. #18656
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Then Germany is being very silly? Don't get to say that often lol.

    Last accident I had, very minor bump, exchanged details and went our separate ways within 5 mins. Absolutely no need for the police.

    Fair play though, we just can't afford that level of attention from the Police, with all the austerity they are struggling to even do the basics atm.
    In this case one vehicle was written off and both occupants (a toddler and his father) were taken to hospital to be checked over.

  17. #18657
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I read through that article and I have to ask, what exactly are you expecting from Labour?
    I can't speak for Nigel but Labours Quantum Brexit stance is pissing everyone off on both sides of the fence. Remainers don't trust Corbyn to actually go through with a People's Vote and Leavers don't trust Labour to deliver Brexit because we still haven't Brexited.

    Labour were always going to lose voters on one side over Brexit but the current strategy is costing them both now. Looking at the locals a solidly Remain Labour party of picked up an extra 1300 Councillors, instead they lost 70 odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    In this case one vehicle was written off and both occupants (a toddler and his father) were taken to hospital to be checked over.
    The article I read said no one was injured and the Police are not investigating. It certainly confirms Farage is a twat but it isn't a crime to have an accident(and it would be his driver that is culpable, Farage was a passenger) and if a statement was needed it can always be given later if the Police do decide to investigate.

    Now stop making me pseudo defend Farage please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Now stop making me pseudo defend Farage please!
    You'll come around in the end and it will be natural, always nice to be on the winning side...

    But a quick update eurochums, campaigning going well thanks for asking, yougov released only yesterday but fieldwork almost a week old, likely improved figures for pro Brexit parties by now. Don't forget these figures are historical...

    For Brexit = BXP+Lab+Con+UKIP = 63%
    For Remain = LibDem+Green+CUK = 31%
    Don't knows = 6/7%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics..._VI_9_May_2019

    Perhaps it was the Verhofstadt bounce after last weeks visit, let's hope he comes over again!

    Busy busy, looking forward to squeezing the remain vote to under 25% by the weekend. Odds on Farage as next PM now down to 12/1 from 100/1 a month ago, closing in on Corbyn who is 6/1.

    Just keeping ya posted and good luck, not sure that will be enough now though, I'd like to say to you it's still all to play for. But it really isn't.

    Not long until Game Over for remain....why not join us now in being on the right side of history?
    Brexiteers are the new remainers. To remain outside of the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    why not join us now in being on the right side of history?
    Voting for a party infested with Spiked Online / Revolutionary Communist Party members is being on the right side of history now

    Explains why Farage can't remove Claire Fox, I guess - almost as much her party as it is his

    Also if you want to be realistic:

    No deal: Brexit party + UKIP + Conservative nutters = 34% + 3% + 4%
    May's deal: Conservative loyalists + Labour nutters = 4% + 6%
    2nd ref/revoke: Conservative realists + Labour + Lib Dems + Greens + TIG + SNP + Plaid Cymru = 2% + 10% + 15% + 11% + 5% + 3% + 2%

    Which looks like:
    No deal = 41%
    May's deal = 10%
    2nd ref/revoke = 48%

    So happy days I guess?
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-05-14 at 01:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Voting for a party infested with Spiked Online / Revolutionary Communist Party members is being on the right side of history now

    Explains why Farage can't remove Claire Fox, I guess - almost as much her party as it is his

    Also if you want to be realistic:

    No deal: Brexit party + UKIP + Conservative nutters = 34% + 3% + 4%
    May's deal: Conservative loyalists + Labour nutters = 4% + 6%
    2nd ref/revoke: Conservative realists + Labour + Lib Dems + Greens + TIG + SNP + Plaid Cymru = 2% + 10% + 15% + 11% + 5% + 3% + 2%

    Which looks like:
    No deal = 41%
    May's deal = 10%
    2nd ref/revoke = 48%

    So happy days I guess?
    I dont read the mental gymnastics dribbles tend to come up with.
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