View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #19181
    Just watching Sky News... it's amazing how they still turn this election, which has NOTHING to do with domestic politics into all about the UK. The Greens MEP lady was just basically cheering the gains of her party and he went on about this is a catastrophe for the conservatives. Dude, why steal her spotlight like that? She didn't join the studio to talk about conservatives... and when she points out the Europe-wide success of the Greens, he kept on talking about Brexit in southwestern England.

    I mean, if you keep elevating the Brexit party and talk about them constantly, you are giving them more legitimacy than they deserve. To the British, apparently, this was really a local poll to see if a GE makes sense where other countries just accidentally had a similar vote not connected to the UK at all.

    Dangit, it's time for a EU-wide broadcaster. Going back to watching France24 now...
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  2. #19182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Shut up, Dribs,
    I'm taking these results with a beer and my customary humility. Thanks for the congratulations, it means so much.

    you'll be out on November 1st. Nobody cares. :P
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  3. #19183
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Dangit, it's time for a EU-wide broadcaster. Going back to watching France24 now...
    Euronews? It's very decent.
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  4. #19184
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    That'll be the dribbles narrative.

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    Brexit Party can't get anything but a net plus in terms of the EU election anyway. They literally can't get a negative, they're a brand new party and have nothing to lose lol
    BRexit party (just like UKIP party before) should just be called the cult of Farage. Pretty much everything about it is the same so this whole narrative they try to push as "A new party." i find just a bit of spin. Not just that but the fact the fractured remain vote is hitting above the Brexit vote is telling. If their version of Brexit was what the public wants then surely they should be getting 50% or 60% not 30-35%

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    Also lol Allistair Campbell being the damn voice of reason on BBC right now.

  5. #19185
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Euronews? It's very decent.
    Euronews tends to be lazy at times and just show uncommentated stuff. I'd like to watch pundits have fun with the results. Watching Euronews now, as France24 seems to tune out now.
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  6. #19186
    The interesting spin out of tonight is coming from the Brexit Party. The new narrative is that UKIP never existed and the complete collapse of the UKIP vote has nothing to do with them. All these Brexit Party votes are in fact brand new people and they didn't just gobble up an old one.

  7. #19187
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Euronews tends to be lazy at times and just show uncommentated stuff. I'd like to watch pundits have fun with the results. Watching Euronews now, as France24 seems to tune out now.
    Tbh I think NEWS should be as much about objective facts as possible and far less about commentary. Remove the excessive comments and all that is left that is problematic is selection bias.
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  8. #19188
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Also lol Allistair Campbell being the damn voice of reason on BBC right now.
    He's been good lol! Also Sargon didn't get a seat, unsurprising but still funny.

  9. #19189
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    He's been good lol! Also Sargon didn't get a seat, unsurprising but still funny.
    Knew he wasn't getting one since the cult of farage bailed on UKIP for Brexit party. Again Brexit party coming with more votes than others. But remain vote beating the leave vote.

  10. #19190
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Tbh I think NEWS should be as much about objective facts as possible and far less about commentary. Remove the excessive comments and all that is left that is problematic is selection bias.
    I've thought about that for a while. Commentary is important to put things into context. For a while, I toyed with the question of how journalism would look like if you removed adjectives from the reporting. Sounds stupid, but a lot of bias is hidden in those adjectives. Is Farage giving you a condescending grin or just a grin? Different connotation altogether.
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  11. #19191
    Oh shit Francois is on! Gonna have to bail for the next section before he gives me an aneurysm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Oh shit Francois is on! Gonna have to bail for the next section before he gives me an aneurysm.
    Don't miss the truth! The Tsunami Brexit party tide is coming in...
    Brexiteers are the new remainers. To remain outside of the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Don't miss the truth! The Tsunami Brexit party tide is coming in...
    The tsunami that somehow doesn't manage to beat the Remain party votes in a low turnout election.

    Low energy, sad.
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    I have no obligation to condemn racists. You ideologues on the other hand, are an actual problem.

  14. #19194
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Knew he wasn't getting one since the cult of farage bailed on UKIP for Brexit party. Again Brexit party coming with more votes than others. But remain vote beating the leave vote.
    I mean LibDem+Greens alone are more than Brexit Party and when it comes to seats, there are 18 seats in Pro-EU parties (Lab seats are in S&D and Plaid Cymru last was with Greens) vs 17 seats with ECR (Tories) and I assume ENF for Brexit Party?
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  15. #19195
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Don't miss the truth! The Tsunami Brexit party tide is coming in...
    I'm unimpressed with the Brexit performance tbh. Looking at the swings you haven't done all that well. Adding Conservative and UKIP losses is not equaling Remain gains.

    You've done about aswell as was expected. It's utterly unspectacular.
    Last edited by Kronik85; 2019-05-26 at 11:04 PM.

  16. #19196
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Oh shit Francois is on! Gonna have to bail for the next section before he gives me an aneurysm.
    OMG somehow he's acting as if a split in remain vote means that somehow mean Brexit is what people want when if you add remain votes together it's a lot more than brexit.

  17. #19197
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I've thought about that for a while. Commentary is important to put things into context. For a while, I toyed with the question of how journalism would look like if you removed adjectives from the reporting. Sounds stupid, but a lot of bias is hidden in those adjectives. Is Farage giving you a condescending grin or just a grin? Different connotation altogether.
    I as a person feel I am informed enough to not need the commentary. I will watch multiple sets of news for something that I care about and put things in context myself. Yes, commentary is important for people who don't have or are not willing to invest as much time but in many cases the bias from that commentary can be deafening and subsume the news themselves.

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    But really the disappointment with the UK EU elections is the low, low turnout (while turnout increased throughout the EU).
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    The Tories are in an even worse position than I thought. I figured it'd be a Brexit wipe out - hoovering up the UKIP Vote and decimating the Tories, but looking at the numbers in a lot of places, the Tories are losing to both BXP and the Lib Dems. They're alienating everyone.

    Labours seemed to have consisently lost to the Greens/LDs, so that's a far clearer message.

  19. #19199
    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkles View Post
    The Tories are in an even worse position than I thought. I figured it'd be a Brexit wipe out - hoovering up the UKIP Vote and decimating the Tories, but looking at the numbers in a lot of places, the Tories are losing to both BXP and the Lib Dems. They're alienating everyone.

    Labours seemed to have consisently lost to the Greens/LDs, so that's a far clearer message.
    In my country, government was 10% below the opposition throughout the map (but we had FOUR elections this day) so the Prime Minister is throwing in the towel and having elections. But I guess no chance the Tories would do the same. I do wonder how a GE would go for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkles View Post
    The Tories are in an even worse position than I thought. I figured it'd be a Brexit wipe out - hoovering up the UKIP Vote and decimating the Tories, but looking at the numbers in a lot of places, the Tories are losing to both BXP and the Lib Dems. They're alienating everyone.

    Labours seemed to have consisently lost to the Greens/LDs, so that's a far clearer message.
    Yes I think the biggest surprise of the night is disaffected Tories voting Lib Dem or maybe even Green.

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