View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #19221
    Did they do a voting then? When do we know who did a win?
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Brexit: it's the dumbest WWE plotline to ever escape into real-life that can't end soon enough because everyone hates how it started, how it's going and how its going to end.
    Quote Originally Posted by AwkwardSquirtle View Post
    Trebuchets new meta.

  2. #19222
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Did they do a voting then? When do we know who did a win?
    Very late on Sunday, or Monday morning.

  3. #19223
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I was being kind to you. In fact 85% of the 32 million electorate at the last GE voted for supposedly pro Brexit, according to their manifesto, parties ie 27 million. A super majority if ever I saw one. The minute they got passed the election they both tore up those manifestos. Is it any wonder the BXP don't have one and don't need one?

    In other news Theresa is off on June 10th, or is she, but let the games begin! I wonder how PM Johnson will get on with the EU...
    Your main fallacy is that the form Brexit should take is universally agreed.
    Your vision of a hard brexit is definitely not shared by the majority, let alone a fraction of it.
    Congratulations, you got a majority of one trick ponies MEP's elected. They will not show up in EP sessions, and they will not bother to vote on anything. You'll just have Nigel ranting in plenaries now and then but not actually doing anything.
    Check his voting record over the years. He didn't oppose anything overall. He just didn't show up. If you are bothered by sending "vasts amount of monies to the EU", you should be outraged at the idea of giving this scarecrow more than 1000 pounds a year.
    Those guys might help achieve your goal in the commons, but they will just be drowned in the European parliament.

  4. #19224
    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    Your main fallacy is that the form Brexit should take is universally agreed.
    Your vision of a hard brexit is definitely not shared by the majority, let alone a fraction of it.
    Congratulations, you got a majority of one trick ponies MEP's elected. They will not show up in EP sessions, and they will not bother to vote on anything. You'll just have Nigel ranting in plenaries now and then but not actually doing anything.
    Check his voting record over the years. He didn't oppose anything overall. He just didn't show up. If you are bothered by sending "vasts amount of monies to the EU", you should be outraged at the idea of giving this scarecrow more than 1000 pounds a year.
    Those guys might help achieve your goal in the commons, but they will just be drowned in the European parliament.
    Not only that, but remember how Brexiteer politicians were crying crocodile tears over how the EU has treated British fishermen (I mean, how DARE the EU make sure those fishermen have a job in 2019 when they would happily have removed every last fish from the Atlantic by the end of the 80s if the fishing quotas hadn't been established)?

    Guess who has been on the EU Fisheries Committee for the last decade and pretty much never showed his face at a meeting. I'll give you a clue, his first name is Nigel.
    Last edited by Butler to Baby Sloths; 2019-05-23 at 11:16 PM.

  5. #19225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Not just for the UK, but for the whole of the EU. Brexit has rattled quite a few people and I wouldn't be surprised if voter turnout has increased after this election.
    Should be fucking mandatory like in Australia.

    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I was being kind to you. In fact 85% of the 32 million electorate at the last GE voted for supposedly pro Brexit, according to their manifesto, parties ie 27 million. A super majority if ever I saw one. The minute they got passed the election they both tore up those manifestos. Is it any wonder the BXP don't have one and don't need one?

    Except that isn't what happens at all.

    People vote on party lines because there are only two parties with a chance at getting in government.
    What each one says they will do is irrelevant because the overwhelming majority of people vote to prevent the other side from getting into power.
    Last edited by Lollis; 2019-05-23 at 11:53 PM.
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  6. #19226
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Did they do a voting then? When do we know who did a win?
    Voting in some countries began today, the last countries (Germany and Greece are two of them) will do voting on Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lollis View Post
    Should be fucking mandatory like in Australia.
    I'm not sure what's better. The Australians I talked to about this said that they had a huge problem with invalid ballots. Like, dick drawings on ballots would probably be PM if they ever found a dick shaped candidate. :P
    “It’s majoritarian, the majority wins, it’s ruled by the majority for the majority – sod the minority. Whereas true democracy includes everybody’s opinion in society,” - Margaret Georgiadou, 2019 about Brexit referendum.

  7. #19227
    So it's looking like today is the day the Maybot, the Opportunity Rover of British politics, sets it's departure date. I've been a harsh critic, I've loathed every second of every speech she's ever made. Her plan to push the WA through Parliament pushed the envelope of acceptable Parliamentary procedure to the limit and was always, ultimately, doomed to fail. I despise her politics and how she has tried to solve Brexit by placing party over country at every turn and she will forever be a contender for the worst PM in our history.

    And even saying all this, she is still in all likelihood a more palatable PM than any of the human simulacra that will replace her next month. God help us all.

  8. #19228
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollis View Post
    Except that isn't what happens at all.

    People vote on party lines because there are only two parties with a chance at getting in government.
    What each one says they will do is irrelevant because the overwhelming majority of people vote to prevent the other side from getting into power.
    Were two, now three serious main parties:-

    Westminster Voting Intention:

    LAB: 26% (-3)
    BXP: 25% (+1)
    CON: 22% (=)
    UKIP: 2% (=)
    Total 75% for Leave

    LDM: 12% (+1)
    GRN: 4% (+1)
    CHUK: 2% (-1)
    Total 18% for Remain

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/s...09405127790594

    All set for a Brexit party + Conservative dream team of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage coalition going forward...

    And thats all on remainers not respecting the original Brexit referendum, so thanks for that remain people.

    And bye May, laters....

  9. #19229
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Were two, now three serious main parties:-

    Westminster Voting Intention:

    LAB: 26% (-3)
    BXP: 25% (+1)
    CON: 22% (=)
    UKIP: 2% (=)
    Total 75% for Leave

    LDM: 12% (+1)
    GRN: 4% (+1)
    CHUK: 2% (-1)
    Total 18% for Remain

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/s...09405127790594

    All set for a Brexit party + Conservative dream team of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage coalition going forward...

    And thats all on remainers not respecting the original Brexit referendum, so thanks for that remain people.

    And bye May, laters....
    You don't get to claim Labour is a Leave party when your own opinion of Brexit is that anything short of WTO isn't Brexit, they want a CU which by your own logic makes them a Remain party.

  10. #19230
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    You don't get to claim Labour is a Leave party when your own opinion of Brexit is that anything short of WTO isn't Brexit, they want a CU which by your own logic makes them a Remain party.
    Well the Chukkas don't think Corbyn is an avid europhile, otherwise if Labour is for remain what's the point of them?

  11. #19231
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Well the Chukkas don't think Corbyn is an avid europhile, otherwise if Labour is for remain what's the point of them?
    Corbyn has put Labour in the privileged position of being no things to all men. To Remainers they are tacit endorsers of Leave and to Brexiteer "moderates" such as yourself they are traitors to the good ship Brexit.

    The point stands though. You don't get to call them Leavers unless you want to reassess your entire opinion on what is Brexit.

  12. #19232
    May is set to step down on 7th June.

  13. #19233
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    May is set to step down on 7th June.
    And honestly with her imo goes any chance for a deal unless the government falls, which I just don't see happening.

  14. #19234
    The most painful part of this speech is her effort to list her concrete achievements. They are nil. Three years in which nothing has been made better, and much has been made worse.
    All that effort just to beat Brown's time in office, hope she at least thinks it was worth it.
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-05-24 at 09:25 AM.

  15. #19235
    voted BXP to continue the inward destruction of the tory party, and delighted to see that by the end of the year corbyn being PM is very likely.

    vote brexit, crush the tory party. strategy is working out perfectly.

  16. #19236
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    voted BXP to continue the inward destruction of the tory party, and delighted to see that by the end of the year corbyn being PM is very likely.

    vote brexit, crush the tory party. strategy is working out perfectly.
    Have you moved yet?
    Corbyn won't be PM before 2022. By then No Deal will have happened and who knows what happens to the Brexit party (spoilers, the voters go back to being Tories).

  17. #19237
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    voted BXP to continue the inward destruction of the tory party, and delighted to see that by the end of the year corbyn being PM is very likely.

    vote brexit, crush the tory party. strategy is working out perfectly.
    So - when there's a GE followed by a Tory / BXP coalition and the inevitable hard Brexit you're going to... what? Sing a little song?

    Fuck the Tories. Fuck Corbyn and his antipathy towards the EU.

  18. #19238
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    So - when there's a GE followed by a Tory / BXP coalition and the inevitable hard Brexit you're going to... what? Sing a little song?

    Fuck the Tories. Fuck Corbyn and his antipathy towards the EU.
    Why would there be a GE?

  19. #19239
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    voted BXP to continue the inward destruction of the tory party, and delighted to see that by the end of the year corbyn being PM is very likely.

    vote brexit, crush the tory party. strategy is working out perfectly.
    People who voted for the Brexit party and that piece of shit farage have serious mental faculty issues... I feel sorry for all you fucking idiots.

  20. #19240
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Why would there be a GE?
    in the scenario tory party elects a PM who tries no deal:
    1) there's no majority in HOC for no deal
    2) despite being the default, a no deal enabling PM would see revolts by HOC
    3) VONC called, government loses. Triggers a GE.

    in the scenario tory party elects a PM who tries soft brexit:
    1) parliamentary arithmetic against them: DUP/ERG always voting against government
    2) paralysis as we encounter 31st october
    3) this PM doesn't want no deal, will move towards GE/2nd referendum
    4) no majority in HOC for 2nd referendum at the moment
    5) final result is calling a GE

    genuinely, i can't see how this resolves without a GE or, at the very least, a second referendum. either result is fine for me. i'll vote remain in a second referendum, and in a GE we'll have corbyn as PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riversong View Post
    People who voted for the Brexit party and that piece of shit farage have serious mental faculty issues... I feel sorry for all you fucking idiots.
    eu elections are irrelevant.

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