View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

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  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
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    9 9.78%
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    11 11.96%
  1. #19661
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    As I said, he doesn't give a monkeys about the irrelevant EU - like usual he won't attend or comply, very busy with other more important stuff do you see?
    Yes, of course. And it plays into our hands to finalize the fascist empire that we've always wanted. Now that you're out of the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Yes, of course. And it plays into our hands to finalize the fascist empire that we've always wanted. Now that you're out of the way!
    Lol, not another attempt? Third time lucky? Looks like history is repeating itself, remember this though on the 75th anniversary of D-day. We didn't need passports or visas to land on the French/EU beaches last time and we won't need them next time! See you soon no doubt matey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Yes, of course. And it plays into our hands to finalize the fascist empire that we've always wanted. Now that you're out of the way!
    Especially if you drop into a recession that kickstarts a wave of European spending.

    Pity we won't be around to benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Lol, not another attempt? Third time lucky? Looks like history is repeating itself, remember this though on the 75th anniversary of D-day. We didn't need passports or visas to land on the French/EU beaches last time and we won't need them next time! See you soon no doubt matey...
    Ah, so that's why you got your ass handed to you from the French whenever you tried to land without permission? See, they're on our side. But don't worry, our German Queen will keep you on a tight leash...

    I mean, come on... the FRENCH. How'd you manage to lose against the only nation that's famous for never winning? Is this 1966 all over again? One time you got lucky with a drunk referee and you're still drunk on the glory 60 years later... get a grip of yourself, man. This is embarassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Well https://www.bupa.co.uk/ is so much better old chap. Please see further relevant responses to this below...
    Have fun with your corperate overlords lol. Don't start whining on this forum about high insurance costs, m'kay?


    Did you miss the overwhelming mandate his party received when he won the EU elections just a few days ago?
    That is not how democracy works, my boy. A low turnout election for seats in the euro parliament is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Especially if you drop into a recession that kickstarts a wave of European spending.

    Pity we won't be around to benefit.
    Surprisingly, we're not quite sure if we want to have a recession or not. It was predicted for this year, but for some fucked up reason the economy decided it wouldn't be having that and got an uptick. It's worrying... after all, we're supposed to either break the EU apart or erect a fascist empire. I'm getting confused, but either way, Germany's going to fuck up everyone's day again, that's for sure. And the world is right again. Boy, am I looking forward to another 80 years of verbal abuse from mentally challenged people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Ah, so that's why you got your ass handed to you from the French whenever you tried to land without permission? See, they're on our side. But don't worry, our German Queen will keep you on a tight leash...
    We are just going to revive De Ruyter, i'm sure that'll stop them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Ah, so that's why you got your ass handed to you from the French whenever you tried to land without permission?
    You're going to make me defend Dribbles here, but Agincourt.

    Y'know, one of Europe's most historical military shocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Surprisingly, we're not quite sure if we want to have a recession or not. It was predicted for this year, but for some fucked up reason the economy decided it wouldn't be having that and got an uptick. It's worrying... after all, we're supposed to either break the EU apart or erect a fascist empire. I'm getting confused, but either way, Germany's going to fuck up everyone's day again, that's for sure. And the world is right again. Boy, am I looking for another 80 years of verbal abuse from mentally challenged people...
    Yeah, it was narrowly avoided last year on a technicality, but all predictions seem to forecast one in the 4th quarter this year.

    Still, you just posted an 11 bil budget surplus, you can afford to spend and restart the machine.

  9. #19669
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    You're going to make me defend Dribbles here, but Agincourt.

    Y'know, one of Europe's most historical military shocks?
    In fairness though that was a defensive war, not an offensive one, right? "We" were already there, we weren't landing.

    Anyway, surely there's a more recent notable victory from say, the Napoleonic era that we could shamelessly brag about if the need arose. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    You're going to make me defend Dribbles here, but Agincourt.

    Y'know, one of Europe's most historical military shocks?
    Nobody outside of England cares about Agincourt. Do you see English territory in the Bretagne or Normandy? I don't. He said he could come to our empire's shores whenever it pleased him. No, he can't. But he's welcome to try. I'll be watching with my teutonic brethren and enjoy the asskicking the French are going to apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    We are just going to revive De Ruyter, i'm sure that'll stop them.


    We are all secretly germans.
    Ha, the way our soldiers whored through Europe, I wouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Yeah, it was narrowly avoided last year on a technicality, but all predictions seem to forecast one in the 4th quarter this year.

    Still, you just posted an 11 bil budget surplus, you can afford to spend and restart the machine.
    Spending isn't the problem. Politics is. I had hoped after last time's bullshit elections we'd be getting a more stable Government next time around. But hey, apparently life's too boring, so we're kickstarting the Greens' "Hippie for Chancellor" campaign... SPD (German Labor) just got stomped nationwide. In Hamburg, Greens got more votes than CDU (our Tories).

    People keep babbling about the rise of the right wing. Well, the Greens are firmly established to the left of SPD. So I have no idea what the fuck everyone's on about. AfD is dying, so we're swinging left now like an uncontrolled pendulum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    In fairness though that was a defensive war, not an offensive one, right? "We" were already there, we weren't landing.

    Anyway, surely there's a more recent notable victory from say, the Napoleonic era that we could shamelessly brag about if the need arose. . .
    The Napoleonic one wasnt just us though, people like pretend we single handidly whooped the Napoleonic Empire, but there was a fair number of allies involved.

    Agincourt was pretty much straight up England vs France, and one of the times we didn't get punted back across the channel.

  12. #19672
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    The Napoleonic one wasnt just us though, people like pretend we single handidly whooped the Napoleonic Empire, but there was a fair number of allies involved.

    Agincourt was pretty much straight up England vs France, and one of the times we didn't get punted back across the channel.
    If you look at that battle on it's own. . . Territory owned before the war doesn't compare favourably to territory owned afterwards.

    Haaaanyway this is all kinda missing the point I guess, we did win Agincourt pretty well and God Bless King Henry the Fifth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    The Napoleonic one wasnt just us though, people like pretend we single handidly whooped the Napoleonic Empire, but there was a fair number of allies involved.

    Agincourt was pretty much straight up England vs France, and one of the times we didn't get punted back across the channel.
    Again, nobody outside England thinks that. This is me being serious. You are having a very specific point of view on history, it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Spending isn't the problem. Politics is.
    But they're connected. Like when you go from 68% of GDP as debt to 60% in 2 years, and post massive surplus, the politics needs to change regarding the continuation of austerity and focus on spending in public services.

    Germany is ready for a financial renaissance that will have a positive effect throughout Europe, and here's us wanting to leave before we can benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Again, nobody outside England thinks that. This is me being serious. You are having a very specific point of view on history, it seems.
    It's the same point of view that got us in this 995 page mess. It's not a mentality I share, the Empire is dead, our gold doesn't rule the world's banks and football's not coming home*.

    We still have some pull but it's vastly overstated by people who think Europe still owes us an eternal debt of gratitide 75 years on.


    *Except this summer tournament finals, we only need to win two games how hard can it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    But they're connected. Like when you go from 68% of GDP as debt to 60% in 2 years, and post massive surplus, the politics needs to change regarding the continuation of austerity and focus on spending in public services.

    Germany is ready for a financial renaissance that will have a positive effect throughout Europe, and here's us wanting to leave before we can benefit.
    We're not actually being auster (is that the adjective?) these days. We're in normal spending mode. Our saving measures have concluded a long, long fucking time ago. See, we've started the whole austerity thing before 2008, we didn't react to a crisis, we were in crisis mode when the crisis came around. For other reasons, but it's one of the reasons why we came out of it pretty well. Aside, of course, from being fascists that live on the European slave labor force in... well, every other member state, according to our expert Dribbles' here.

    As for spending... we'll spend when and where it's appropriate. I think, I hope that is the biggest takeaway from the recent financial disasters. Spending just for the sake of getting money into circulation is all dandy and fine, but in the long run you'd rather spend money sensibly than just... say, buy a quadrillion toilet rolls only to be able to say you pumped a lot of spare change into the economic system.

    I'm not an economist, so I don't know jack shit about economy, but I think our current model of subsidizing vital industries is a wiser choice of spending than... whatever everyone thinks "spending" is. I don't like phrases like "you need to spend more" because people usually don't know what they mean by that.

    As for renaissance... no idea what you're talking about. The only renaissance that I see possible is a EU wide fiscal system. First, of course, to support our fascist empire, but also to reduce tax avoidance and, most importantly to establish an equalising system where rich nations outright sponsor poor nations. Germany does it on a national basis and while the rich states grumble every year, nobody contests it, because it works and keeps everyone equally miserable.
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  16. #19676
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    We're not actually being auster (is that the adjective?) these days
    Only because you asked - it's austere with an extra "e" on the end; sorry, as you were
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  17. #19677
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    We still have some pull but it's vastly overstated by people who think Europe still owes us an eternal debt of gratitide 75 years on.
    I actually think an appropriate amount of appreciation is justififed. I don't mind everyone but Germany throwing a big party once a year sometime in May. What I do mind is getting shat on by the British everytime I make the mistake of revealing my nationality. But that's fine. I'll just support anyone who's up to actually give the British a reason to bitch. Right Dribs? I mean, you little fascist fanboi wouldn't actually complain about the Fourth Reich, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    It's the same point of view that got us in this 995 page mess.
    This comment is spot on - it doesn't help that it was the version of History we were taught 25 years or so ago when I was at school; and I can only assume the further back you go the more "patriotic" is has been (so anyone older than me is likely to have received even more biased versions of events).
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  19. #19679
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Only because you asked - it's austere with an extra "e" on the end; sorry, as you were
    Ah shit, I've seen that before... I should've known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    This comment is spot on - it doesn't help that it was the version of History we were taught 25 years or so ago when I was at school; and I can only assume the further back you go the more "patriotic" is has been (so anyone older than me is likely to have received even more biased versions of events).
    Echoing this, Rule Britannia was pretty much the curriculum when it came to history till about the turn of the century.

    Also slant, regarding the economy/spending and it benefitting the EU. It's mostly in reference to your import/export imbalance, there's a growing belief that Germany hoarding wealth when posting high surplus is toxic to the EU. Spending not only revives other countries within the Union but in turn generates more trade options for Germany.

    Article's a year old but sums up the belief: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/04/germ...ctor-says.html

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