View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #18101
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post

    Stopped reading the thing. Not having my vote taken hostage again like it was at the last GE. I don't trust Change UK at all, Chukka in my mind is Labour's (formerly I guess) very own BoJo, man thinks he's owed the Premiership, same for the rest of the high profile Change UK members, they all think they were owed a much bigger role than they were getting in Labour and the Conservatives and now think this is their break.

    So Lib Dem for me I think, seems a little more sensible than Green. Independent is good thinking for the local election though, will have to do some research on my local candidates.
    If anything forming Change UK he's basically admitted that he has no plans to be PM ever. They know they're not going to replace labour or conservative parties as the big twe. They know this, FPTP will ensure this. They know at best they'll be another Lib Dem in the position of the House of Commons.

  2. #18102
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    If anything forming Change UK he's basically admitted that he has no plans to be PM ever.
    He did want to be PM. He is just such a massive delusional narcissist that he thought Change UK would be his vehicle to do that. He didn't consider that everyone f***ing hates Blairites and that his party would be polling at 3%.

  3. #18103
    If anything forming Change UK he's basically admitted that he has no plans to be PM ever.
    He did want to be PM. He is just such a massive delusional narcissist that he thought Change UK would be his vehicle to do that. He didn't consider that everyone f***ing hates him and that his party would be polling at 3%.

    But who could blame him? After all, all we need to do is resurrect Blair's hideous rotting corpse painted with the blood of dead Iraqi kids and Labour will win by a landslide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    I would much rather see a currently now smaller party take far more control, Corbyn is equally terrible as May, far too old to have any connection with todays issues, on top of that he has no issue with antisemtism and other forms of racism in his party, probably due to one himself.
    You are on record as being a far right supporter, not sure what your problem is with anti-semitism, imaginary or otherwise.
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  4. #18104
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    If anything forming Change UK he's basically admitted that he has no plans to be PM ever. They know they're not going to replace labour or conservative parties as the big twe. They know this, FPTP will ensure this. They know at best they'll be another Lib Dem in the position of the House of Commons.
    I'd make an argument that he was essentially being squeezed out of Labour and the recent discontent within Labour and the country at large at least gave him the jet pack he needed to escape to greener pastures. His political career within Labour had hit a dead end, he would never win a leadership contest with the current Labour membership and will never get a front bench role with whomever they choose to lead.

    Change UK is his last remaining option for political relevance. He jumped before he was pushed.

  5. #18105
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    Quote Originally Posted by rethwalp View Post

    You are on record as being a far right supporter, not sure what your problem is with anti-semitism, imaginary or otherwise.
    Seeing i'm on record, you are free to proof that.

    If you can manage to do that before getting banned and being triggered enough to make yet another account rofl. Not sure why people cling to such an uninspiring sort like Corbyn guess the same type of people attract each other

  6. #18106
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Seeing i'm on record, you are free to proof that.

    If you can manage to do that before getting banned and being triggered enough to make yet another account rofl. Not sure why people cling to such an uninspiring sort like Corbyn guess the same type of people attract each other
    You're not showing blind loyalty to Comrade Corbyn (even though you're not from the UK) you're obviously far right to these people.

  7. #18107
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Seeing i'm on record, you are free to proof that.

    If you can manage to do that before getting banned and being triggered enough to make yet another account rofl. Not sure why people cling to such an uninspiring sort like Corbyn guess the same type of people attract each other
    So uninspiring he inspired labour to the top of the polls.
    but lol at buying the anti-semitism smears, you just take whatever British tabliods say at face value?
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  8. #18108
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    So uninspiring he inspired labour to the top of the polls.
    So inspiring, he only just manages to out poll the worst Conservative government in history? And you call that a good thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    So uninspiring he inspired labour to the top of the polls.
    And if i say that has nothing to do with him but with the tory party being unable to not make a mess out of everything the last years? Yeah let's go with that, but if you want you can say it's because of a person who hasn't done anything the last few years and struggles to keep his party together and can barely create an opposition.

    So again, not sure why people are so set on that uninspiring old goat.

  10. #18110
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And the only thing to take from that is the British people will have definitively given a mandate for a hard no deal Brexit once again. I can almost feel the tears of the weeping remainers and EU fanatics...
    Oh come on, this is pathetic even by your standards.

    They never gave a mandate for a no-deal Brexit, because that wasn't on offer at the referendum. So they can't give it "again" can they. Would you like me to link you all the times the Leave campaign told us all the things we wouldn't be losing if we voted leave? All the things that we would leave if we went no-deal? Or do you want to save me the time and just flat out admit you are talking bollocks again?

    As for the numbers on that poll, it's still barely better than 2014. The Brexit party is getting the bulk of its votes from UKIP, and some from the Tories. And you are still barely getting a third of the votes, which is probably going to be about an 8th of the voters. Which isn't a mandate for anything.

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  11. #18111
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And the only thing to take from that is the British people will have definitively given a mandate for a hard no deal Brexit once again. I can almost feel the tears of the weeping remainers and EU fanatics...
    So MEPs are powerless pawns of the Commission when they decide things you don't like, and yet so powerful they can make the UK leave the EU?


    Not been on the site much the last day or so, but has anybody seen what Nancy Pelosi said about a trade deal?

    As far as I understood it, the situation is thus:

    The UK won't get a trade deal with the US if the UK breaks the GFA by leaving the EU.
    The UK wants to leave the customs union so that it can negotiate a trade deal with the USA (and others, of course).
    But by leaving the customs union the UK could break the GFA (in particular the bit that guarantees the freedom of goods and people to cross the border unchecked).
    So by leaving the EU and the customs union, the UK cannot make a deal with the USA.

    Oh, and the EU is re-initiating negotiations with the USA for a trade deal this week.

    How about that for taking back control?

  12. #18112
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    The Brexit party is getting the bulk of its votes from UKIP
    Happily correct



    Amazing what a party launch and two days at the top of BBC news can do for a polling %
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  13. #18113
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Happily correct



    Amazing what a party launch and two days at the top of BBC news can do for a polling %
    Farrage cult of personality.

  14. #18114
    Luckily, this election isn't FPTP.

    What's amusing is that Brexit retards use it to show their "victory" or whatever fucked up fantasy of the week they follow. To me it just shows... Brexit support went from 51% to 27%.

    Yes, please... have that second referendum. Apparently, Brexit really went out of favour by now.
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  15. #18115
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Luckily, this election isn't FPTP.
    It isn't straight word PR either though. Country is broke into large regional constituency's so still plenty of votes to put on the scrapheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    How about that for taking back control?
    Missed out on; if we get a trade deal with the USA it will be highly advantaged to the USA alongside preventing a trade deal with China and a massive hinderance to a UK EU trade deal.

  16. #18116
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I think the point he was making was regardless of tax, the pound will tank so hard, it'll be cheaper than virtually anywhere else in Europe.

    Also, I believe the Scandinavians beat everyone when it comes to taxing alcohol. Or used to, I heard they mellowed a bit.
    Yeah, we like to tax the «scary stuff» like alcohol and tobacco like crazy.

  17. #18117
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    It isn't straight word PR either though. Country is broke into large regional constituency's so still plenty of votes to put on the scrapheap.
    It's actually a pretty decent representative system, as I've learned today.
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  18. #18118
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    It's actually a pretty decent representative system, as I've learned today.
    I'm playing catch up myself with it and whilst it seems decent I'm not sure how much value having a more local MEP adds and maybe this is a hang over from FPTP habits but I do worry that my vote will do less here than it would down south.

  19. #18119
    Really, I don't see what all the excitement is about. In 2014, UKIP polled 26.6%. Combined Brexit Party / UKIP vote is 30% now. Is that even an extra MEP? And if that’s the extent of the No Deal vote, then so much the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Sounds sensible, opened up the Labour EU manifesto, first thing I read was:

    Stopped reading the thing. Not having my vote taken hostage again like it was at the last GE.
    Could you link it, please? Can’t find it. Only the 2014 manifesto with Ed’s head on it.

  20. #18120
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    Could you link it, please? Can’t find it. Only the 2014 manifesto with Ed’s head on it.
    https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotiating-brexit/

    I'm fairly confident this is the in date manifesto regarding Brexit. 2019 copyright mark at the bottom and if you do bother to read it then the rhetoric seems relevant to recent events and recent positions. I may be getting my wires crossed though and they still haven't worked out a new one for the coming election.

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