[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Demolitia]

Doubt that. EU people are easily frustrated, but they don't get angered by negotiations going sour. It's their job, they know that sometimes you just can't make a deal... see TTIP.

Their job is to negotiate, which they have done professionally and in good faith. Nobody is going to lose their job or be blamed over this. If it fails, they'll just move on to the next task.

[caervek]

A kid grabs a fork and goes to stick it into an electrical socket. One parent see's it and tries to stop them, but the other parent pipes in with "PROJECT FEAR!". Pointing out the likely calamitous consequences is not "project fear".

Is this a UK electrical socket or an EU electrical socket? Because forks only work on one of them (sorry but it was too funny to resist).

[Calfredd]

SNIP

Sorry I missed your reply before your account was deleted. Why do you spam accounts?

[Slant]

Their job is to negotiate, which they have done professionally and in good faith. Nobody is going to lose their job or be blamed over this. If it fails, they'll just move on to the next task.

They already are. EU's making FTAs after FTAs. They busy af, man. Seems these days even the fucking Europeans that screwed basically everyone else over at some point in history are more trustworthy than anyone else. When the US and China come to blows, I vote we sit that one out and deal with whoever's left.

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Sorry I missed your reply before your account was deleted. Why do you spam accounts?

I didn't even see he posted. If you want to know how to do that, read below. Life's gotten a LOT more enjoyable here all of a sudden.

[Calfredd]

I didn't even see he posted. If you want to know how to do that, read below. Life's gotten a LOT more enjoyable here all of a sudden.

Oh no he posted in another thread (different account) and I asked him then but he was deleted before I got around to reading it.

[tehealadin]

Congratulations, you are the one hundredth annoying cunt that doesn't understand electoral math.

For the benefit of painfully stupid remainers: Labour lost in 2010 and 2015 with leaders who lacked any commitment to socialist principles. The middle-class vote turned out: the working class stayed at home, that's why Labour lost. By contrast in 2017 with an actual socialist leader Labour came within 1% of winning the popular vote despite Blairites attempting to stab him in the back the whole way through the election.

I bet this stuff: I do the analysis. I am so tired of you people fabricating bloody stupid fantasy scenarios of some kind of Blairite victory. There is no plausible Blairite candidate that could beat Corbyn or would outperform him in a General Election. Do you not think the papers would be running that poll if that were the case?

If Corbyn is replaced then Labour will become an entirely middle-class party and it can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. We put up with you Blairite cunts for years: you can subject yourself to the party discipline now or you can fuck off. I will vote tory before I vote for another Blairite. We are not bluffing. We are fucking sick of you latte-drinking tossers. It is the Labour party, it represents the workers, if you want to join a vehicle for Remain then you can join Change UK riding high on 0% of the vote currently.

On the case of why Labour is likely fucked in the next GE, I present to you exhibit A.

[Dizzeeyooo]

If Corbyn is replaced then Labour will become an entirely middle-class party and it can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. We put up with winning elections under Blair: you can subject yourself to the party discipline now or you can fuck off. I will vote tory before I vote for another Blairite. We are not bluffing. We are fucking sick of you latte-drinking tossers. It is the Labour party, it represents the workers who will be fucked completely by Brexit, hopefully painfully enough that the country as a whole will vote for Corbyn, if you want to join a vehicle for Remain then you can join the Lib Dems.

Fixed that for you

[Acidbaron]

[Pann]

Instead of relying on a nearly three year old article, why not choose something more up to date? Like... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9024116.html

[Dizzeeyooo]

Tony Blair would lose Labour 25% of their current vote:

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-return-poll-labour-tories-leader-a7351881.html

This is like shooting fish in a barrel if the fish were drugged.

Because reminding you that you won elections with a more centrist and less blinkered leader obviously means that the exact same person should return to lead Labour again

Instead of relying on a nearly three year old article, why not choose something more up to date? Like... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9024116.html

Precisely.

[Santti]

Boris Johnson: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

So it's something along the lines of Boris being a buffoon by skill. For Trump, it's all natural.

I want to see him offer EU some tea at the deadline; see how that goes.

[Pann]

Try to understand that replacing Corbyn with another candidate is not the same as replacing him with a Blairite. The most likely outcome if Corbyn is replaced is that another left-winger would be elected.

In most cases a political party's chances improve with a generic non-specific candidate in polling. As soon as you give people a specific name then any benefit is reduced or turns negative. The newspapers know this: that's why they published it as part of their ongoing attempt to remove Corbyn.

Where did I state anything of the sort? And in that case the most likely outcome is Labour will remain out of government.

Yeah, of course it is!

[Acidbaron]

So it's something along the lines of Boris being a buffoon by skill. For Trump, it's all natural.

I want to see him offer EU some tea at the deadline; see how that goes.

Some of it yes, the last part of the videos lays out he is indeed also ignorant not just by design about the trade deal, not fully knowing the whole thing and simply nitpicking paragraphs that work for him. One can argue it is merely setting the stage to continue blaming the EU for english incompetence but that was pretty much a given.

[Dizzeeyooo]

In order to be smug and troll you have to demonstrate some kind of intelligence in the first place. You come across more like a village idiot that's just shat himself and is now grinning inanely.

You prefer having a lifetime in opposition while the worst Conservative governments in living memory run the country into the ground delivering Brexit, actively harming the people you claim to support, over the "shame" of a less ideologically pure party leader and Labour winning elections.

I don't think there's any discussion needed about who has shat themselves logic wise

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Blocked by the EU to viewers in the UK. At a guess it's just another Boris fan video? Guess we will have to wait until freedom day to watch it...

[Secret Arcade]

Blocked by the EU to viewers in the UK. At a guess it's just another Boris fan video? Guess we will have to wait until freedom day to watch it...

Blocked by the US (HBO) you mean. It's blocked in the UK because it hasn't been aired there yet.
Nice try though.

[dribbles]

Blocked by the US (HBO) you mean. It's blocked in the UK because it hasn't been aired there yet.
Nice try though.

Silly me thought there was free movement of goods and services throughout the EU. So someone in Belgium can watch it but someone in the UK, still in the EU for a few more days, cannot? Does that not break an EU rule somewhere?

If the broken EU can't get free movement of electrons right it has no hope with people, goods and services.

Another good reason to leave. Cheers!

[Dizzeeyooo]

something something broken EU something something

How are the Brexit party feeling about the August 1st by-election in Brecon and Radnorshire? Excited?

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How are the Brexit party feeling about the August 1st by-election in Brecon and Radnorshire? Excited?

Very!

With the ruling Conservative party stealing and implementing all the Brexit party policies they are just getting a manifesto together for a possible snap General Election. If the Lib Dems help to bring that snap GE by winning Brecon it's all good as Farage takes some time and decides what he wants Boris to do next...

After the Boris bounce recently in the polls, Boris vs Corbyn is no contest and we all can see that Farage is the Boris puppetmaster...

Happy days for Brexiteers indeed!

[Acidbaron]

Blocked by the US (HBO) you mean. It's blocked in the UK because it hasn't been aired there yet.
Nice try though.

Don't bother waste of effort, victim complex is too high among brexiteers