[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[dribbles]

They still think the single market is a joke. They have no idea how much pain the EU will go through to preserve the integrity of the single market.

Because the protectionist EU single market and trade policy is a joke, in one word Mercosur. I see today that after 20 years of jaw jaw still not getting ratified any time soon. Supposedly the benefits to EU businesses are in the region of 4bn euro a year, that's 80bn in unnecessary costs over 20 years to the struggling EU economy, their customers and citizens in the time they have been talking. What a farce.

French Agriculture Minister Didier Guillaume warned the Macron government would not ratify the free-trade agreement “in its current form”.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...sur-trade-deal

I'll wager right now the UK implements a free trade deal with Mercosur after brexit before the EU ever does...

[Slant]

They do not realize how much pain the UK will have to go through to achieve pretty much the same on their own terms either..

Not our problem.

[Mayhem]

Because the protectionist EU single market and trade policy is a joke, in one word Mercosur. I see today that after 20 years of jaw jaw still not getting ratified any time soon. Supposedly the benefits to EU businesses are in the region of 4bn euro a year, that's 80bn in unnecessary costs over 20 years to the struggling EU economy, their customers and citizens in the time they have been talking. What a farce.

French Agriculture Minister Didier Guillaume warned the Macron government would not ratify the free-trade agreement “in its current form”.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...sur-trade-deal

I'll wager right now the UK implements a free trade deal with Mercosur after brexit before the EU ever does...

Project believe!

[zealo]

I mean you wont be getting your 'bent banana' because you've admitted in your first paragraph that your happy for EU regulations to continue to apply to imports into the UK. Those mythical bananas would already have been turned away before they got to the UK.

If you dislike EU regulators why are you happy for them to continue to regulate UK imports, are British people really that lazy?

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He hasn't.

If a UK company exports something to the EU which doesn't meet its regulatory standards it will be dealt with accordingly. Just as would happen with an import from any other country.

That sort of post about bendy bananas is just Dribbles playing up Brexiteer stereotypes as a bad joke. What he gets out of doing that in this thread, I'm not entirely sure, but there's strong reason to believe he's not entirely serious with that specific brand of drivel.

[Northern Goblin]

Going back a touch. Ryanair isn't failing because of Brexit.

It's failing because it's a piece of shit company and people would happily fork out another tenner and fly with something that isn't run by soulless leeches who charge their own staff for bottled water when the cabin temperature is 35c+

[Xarkan]

Some of us do.

I guess i meant most of the hardline nodeal brexit types

[Pann]

Going back a touch. Ryanair isn't failing because of Brexit.

It's failing because it's a piece of shit company and people would happily fork out another tenner and fly with something that isn't run by soulless leeches who charge their own staff for bottled water when the cabin temperature is 35c+

Ryanair is not in any way, shape or form failing, passenger numbers were up 11% in the first quarter and it is set to make between €750million and €950million in profit this year, it does however face a number of challenges - one of which is Brexit (However dribbles is significantly over playing the impact of Brexit on Ryanair's profit slump).

[Demolitia]

No regulatory alignment whatsoever.

Regulatory alignment mean jack shit unless there is a legally binding paper saying the UK will do just that. That's usually a clause in an FTA.

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I'll wager right now the UK implements a free trade deal with Mercosur after brexit before the EU ever does...

You'll get all the FTAs in the world if you're willing the bend over.

[dribbles]

You'll get all the FTAs in the world if you're willing the bend over.

Boris refusing to meet anyone from the EU unless they re-open the withdrawal agreement and accept the backstop is dead is hardly bending over now is it?

[Demolitia]

Boris refusing to meet anyone from the EU unless they re-open the withdrawal agreement and accept the backstop is dead is hardly bending over now is it?

Who says he refused? As far as I can see he didn't even ask, which should have been his first move after getting elected.
You'd imagine a responsible leader to meet his counterparts asap, especially when so much is at stake.
Or is it that he knows that the British clown mumbling persona that got him elected won't get him anywhere abroad, and he'll just get bitch-slapped?

[caervek]

Who knows very soon I might even legally be allowed to buy and consume a bent banana...

You can do that now, you just can't sell it to another EU country.

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They still think the single market is a joke.

Heeey, the British don't think the single market is a joke, here's what our prime minister had to say on it:

I'm in favour of the single market. I want us to be able to trade freely with our European friends and partners.

Personally, I would like to stay in the single market

We need to stay in the council of ministers of the internal market. In my view, the British have done good things for Europe

We have the free movement of goods meaning French companies can buy important things like infrastructure in the UK and we benefit

Staying in the single market is essential and deliverable

remaining in the European Union would be a boon for the world and for Europe, This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms, The membership fee seems rather small for all that access

Of course that was all before he joined the Brexit campaign and became anti-EU to boost his career (in one case mere hours before) and in fairness it's certainly worked out for him lol.

[Slant]

You can do that now, you just can't sell it to another EU country.

He can do it now and he can buy/sell it to/from EU countries, too. I mean, you're not helping by perpetuating the myth.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...060217&from=EN

The only mentions of "bending" are:

- with the stalk intact, without bending, fungal damage or dessication,

And that a) refers to the stalk and is b) an imprecise description, in the German version it talks about "- mit unversehrtem, ungeknicktem, nicht ausgetrocknetem Stiel, frei von Pilzbefall;"

If we use that to interpret what the only mention of "bending" is about, it's better to think of it as "folded" instead of bending.

He can sell bendy bananas as much as he likes. His problem will be that the UK is not where the EU buys bananas from. So even if he got bananas straightened with a ruler, we wouldn't buy from him.

What he thinks this is about is another section talking about abnormal shapes. But I think we can all agree that most forms of curvature in a banana are pretty normal. That's why we see bendy bananas in all supermarkets here. If you don't have proper bananas in the UK, that's really on you, not the EU. Not that Dribbles would care...

[Xarkan]

He can do it now and he can buy/sell it to/from EU countries, too. I mean, you're not helping by perpetuating the myth.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...060217&from=EN

The only mentions of "bending" are:



And that a) refers to the stalk and is b) an imprecise description, in the German version it talks about "- mit unversehrtem, ungeknicktem, nicht ausgetrocknetem Stiel, frei von Pilzbefall;"

If we use that to interpret what the only mention of "bending" is about, it's better to think of it as "folded" instead of bending.

He can sell bendy bananas as much as he likes. His problem will be that the UK is not where the EU buys bananas from. So even if he got bananas straightened with a ruler, we wouldn't buy from him.

What he thinks this is about is another section talking about abnormal shapes. But I think we can all agree that most forms of curvature in a banana are pretty normal. That's why we see bendy bananas in all supermarkets here. If you don't have proper bananas in the UK, that's really on you, not the EU. Not that Dribbles would care...

Their prime minister used to create such myths for a living for the Daily Telegraph with even less foundation than that

Babel towers and hairnet for fishermen type of lunacy

[Slant]

Their prime minister used to create such myths for a living for the Daily Telegraph with even less foundation than that

Babel towers and hairnet for fishermen type of lunacy

He was fired for inventing stories in the end, wasn't he? I mean, they have a PM who has been fired for making up bullshit. You don't need to know more than that, really...

[Kallisto]

He was fired for inventing stories in the end, wasn't he? I mean, they have a PM who has been fired for making up bullshit. You don't need to know more than that, really...

He was hired by Telegraph after being fired by The Times for bullshitting. So even they hired him knowing he was a bullshitter.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Looks like the US isn't willing to help a fucked up country afterall:

Didn't Pelosi say that last year? Good to see they haven't changed their mind. Pressure from the US is probably the only thing that BoJo would listen to right now.

[AeneasBK]

Didn't Pelosi say that last year? Good to see they haven't changed their mind. Pressure from the US is probably the only thing that BoJo would listen to right now.

Incoming 30 years of tabloid "We could have done all the things we promise but that conniving US has interfered again, gosh darnit" to replace Europe?

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Incoming 30 years of tabloid "We could have done all the things we promise but that conniving US has interfered again, gosh darnit" to replace Europe?

Their plan would have worked if it hadn't been for those pesky American kids, you mean?

[Mayhem]

Regulatory alignment mean jack shit unless there is a legally binding paper saying the UK will do just that. That's usually a clause in an FTA.

I implied the legal framework behind it. You don't need an FTA to have regulatory alignment, I'm not talking about trading freely with the EU but trading with the EU at all.

[dribbles]

Didn't Pelosi say that last year? Good to see they haven't changed their mind. Pressure from the US is probably the only thing that BoJo would listen to right now.

Pelosi is the speaker of the house, trade deals are ratified by the Trump/Republican controlled Senate.

Just sayin.