View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
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    9 9.78%
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    11 11.96%
  1. #26421
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    No, that video is not sourced from the British Fishing Industry as you claim.

    It is from a single pro EU, socialist, science teacher who has never had to make a profit from fishing in his life. Can we stick to the facts which are sourced from the real British Fishing Industry please?

    No other country in the world gives away its fish in the way the UK has for the last 40 years. This is the time to right these wrongs. This is the UK’s once-in-a-lifetime opportunity – the Sea of Opportunity – to climb the ladder of successful seafood nations and for the UK to reap the greatest benefit from our sovereign natural resources – not to continue to give them away for the benefit of others.

    https://www.sff.co.uk/joint-letter-t...-sff-and-nffo/

    Sticking to the facts as brexiteers have done so all along, rather than made up fake news nonsense from project fear remainers, that's todays letter from the real British fishing industry to the UK PM.
    Uhm... your quote and link doesn’t actually state any facts. It’s just populist rambling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... your quote and link doesn’t actually state any facts. It’s just populist rambling...
    So just the usual brexit dribb- I mean, drivel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... your quote and link doesn’t actually state any facts. It’s just populist rambling...
    Bonus points for having nowhere to sell those fish to because of, let me check my notes, tariffs.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... your quote and link doesn’t actually state any facts. It’s just populist rambling...
    Oh, you just met dribbles?
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Sticking to the facts as brexiteers have done so all along
    That would make me laugh if anyone else had said it. But because it's you it just makes me sad. Either you genuinely believe this nonsense, or you believe anyone reading it would be stupid enough to believe it. Either way, sad.

    I'd link you back to dozens and dozens of things that the Brexit campaign or the key people in it have said over the years that have been proven to be incorrect, but what's the point? You'd ignore it, post more shit about how wonderful Brexit is going to be and carry on.

    Brexit meets reality on January 1st. It's going to be a LOT tougher for you to pretend how wonderful it is when that collision occurs. Tick fucking tock.
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    Tbf, the EU could just tank the negotiations, let the british fishing industry die a slow death, and they'll drop their "WE WANT FREE TRADE BUT STAY THE FUCK AWAY!!1" mantra in a few months, if that.

    In the end, misplaced "national pride" like the british fishing industry, is better left outside the negotiations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Tbf, the EU could just tank the negotiations, let the british fishing industry die a slow death, and they'll drop their "WE WANT FREE TRADE BUT STAY THE FUCK AWAY!!1" mantra in a few months, if that.

    In the end, misplaced "national pride" like the british fishing industry, is better left outside the negotiations.
    Honestly, I'd be surprised if the UK doesn't just leave the negotiations come January..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    Honestly, I'd be surprised if the UK doesn't just leave the negotiations come January..
    I find it more likely that the uk leaves the negotiations before that, and crawl back at the start of January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Sticking to the facts as brexiteers have done so all along, rather than made up fake news nonsense
    Good to hear, can we expect that extra £350 million a week for the NHS to start in January? It's kinda important as the pandemic has basically exhausted our entire budget until April xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Good to hear, can we expect that extra £350 million a week for the NHS to start in January? It's kinda important as the pandemic has basically exhausted our entire budget until April xD
    Yeah it's a shame the pandemic will take the shine off the massive benefits of the Great Brexit. Still won't stop successful companies from evacuating the EU for the investment treasure island that is the UK post Brexit...

    BMW moves engine production to Britain

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-bm...-idUKKBN27Y2HP

    Looks like they think just in time won't be a problem wouldn't you say eurochums?
    13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"

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    Wohhooo we're getting some of the brexit dividend, bmw moves production to Austria.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Yeah it's a shame the pandemic will take the shine off the massive benefits of the Great Brexit. Still won't stop successful companies from evacuating the EU for the investment treasure island that is the UK post Brexit...

    BMW moves engine production to Britain

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-bm...-idUKKBN27Y2HP

    Looks like they think just in time won't be a problem wouldn't you say eurochums?
    BMW moving some of their fossil fuel engine production (only 8 and 12 cylinder) to their existing factories in the UK because they will be banned in a decade and it opens up room for their German factories to focus on electric cars really is a wonderful embodiment of Brexit.

    The UK turning to past glories and left behind as the rest of the world walks up into the future.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  13. #26433
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Yeah it's a shame the pandemic will take the shine off the massive benefits of the Great Brexit. Still won't stop successful companies from evacuating the EU for the investment treasure island that is the UK post Brexit...

    BMW moves engine production to Britain

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-bm...-idUKKBN27Y2HP

    Looks like they think just in time won't be a problem wouldn't you say eurochums?
    As Germany moves to the future UK factories will be stuck with obsolete engines that will be banned in less than 10 years.

    Essentially BMW has basically given the Engine part of the factory a death sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    As Germany moves to the future UK factories will be stuck with obsolete engines that will be banned in less than 10 years.

    Essentially BMW has basically given the Engine part of the factory a death sentence.
    Obsolete technology like the BMW owned e-Mini built in Oxford?

    Next Great Brexit benefit revealed today, can you keep up with them eurochums?...

    UK military to get biggest spending boost in 30 years

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54988870

    Some of this spending will probably have to come from the overseas aid budget, but Brexit has allowed us to reduce that budget considerably by not now having to send continuing overseas financial aid to the EU. Every day we wake to another great brexit benefit announcement securing the UK's future with a level of defence spending not seen since our early days of EU membership.

    /Three cheers for brexit
    13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Obsolete technology like the BMW owned e-Mini built in Oxford?

    Next Great Brexit benefit revealed today, can you keep up with them eurochums?...

    UK military to get biggest spending boost in 30 years

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54988870

    Some of this spending will probably have to come from the overseas aid budget, but Brexit has allowed us to reduce that budget considerably by not now having to send continuing overseas financial aid to the EU. Every day we wake to another great brexit benefit announcement securing the UK's future with a level of defence spending not seen since our early days of EU membership.

    /Three cheers for brexit
    Might be linked to https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54997372 ?

    Brexit: UK 'will be less safe without EU security deal' - police chief


    and in regards to the car industry

    https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/uk-car...o-deal-brexit/

    Foreign carmakers have warned that they will pull back from the UK in a no-deal Brexit. In June, Nissan said the viability of its Sunderland plant depended on tariffs remaining unchanged and Hildegard Müller, president of VDA, the German car association, hinted at withdrawal from the UK by German carmakers in the joint statement.

    Higher tariffs “would jeopardise closely linked value chains and possibly make them unprofitable”, he said. He pointed out that “our member companies have more than 100 production sites in the UK”.

    In the end it's quite sad that you need to bolster your military, to make up for the loss of Brexit. What an absolute shitshow.

  16. #26436
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Yeah it's a shame the pandemic will take the shine off the massive benefits of the Great Brexit. Still won't stop successful companies from evacuating the EU for the investment treasure island that is the UK post Brexit...

    BMW moves engine production to Britain

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-bm...-idUKKBN27Y2HP

    Looks like they think just in time won't be a problem wouldn't you say eurochums?
    So about that £350m a week direct from our EU payments to the NHS, that will be kicking in correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Obsolete technology like the BMW owned e-Mini built in Oxford?

    Next Great Brexit benefit revealed today, can you keep up with them eurochums?...

    UK military to get biggest spending boost in 30 years

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54988870

    Some of this spending will probably have to come from the overseas aid budget, but Brexit has allowed us to reduce that budget considerably by not now having to send continuing overseas financial aid to the EU. Every day we wake to another great brexit benefit announcement securing the UK's future with a level of defence spending not seen since our early days of EU membership.

    /Three cheers for brexit
    I thought all the EU money was being given to the NHS, £350m a week if that bus is to be believed, and according to you Brexit was only built on facts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    So about that £350m a week direct from our EU payments to the NHS, that will be kicking in correct?

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    I thought all the EU money was being given to the NHS, £350m a week if that bus is to be believed, and according to you Brexit was only built on facts...
    You know I am always pleased to share brexit benefits with you and am more than happy to provide the information showing that this brexit promise has already more than been delivered.

    NHS Spending in 2016 = £191.7bn
    NHS Spending in 2018 = £214.4bn.

    An increase of £22.7bn/52 = £436 million a week.

    Boris and his Tory brexit bus promise as good as his word with the £350,000,000.00 per week increase exceeded even before we were fully out! How amazing is that?

    I'm glad we have such a competent government in charge of the Brexit negotiations and the pandemic. Imagine the chaos, as the infighting Labour party today tear themselves apart, if Corbyn's lot had got it...
    13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You know I am always pleased to share brexit benefits with you and am more than happy to provide the information showing that this brexit promise has already more than been delivered.

    NHS Spending in 2016 = £191.7bn
    NHS Spending in 2018 = £214.4bn.

    An increase of £22.7bn/52 = £436 million a week.

    Boris and his Tory brexit bus promise as good as his word with the £350,000,000.00 per week increase exceeded even before we were fully out! How amazing is that?

    I'm glad we have such a competent government in charge of the Brexit negotiations and the pandemic. Imagine the chaos, as the infighting Labour party today tear themselves apart, if Corbyn's lot had got it...
    What about how the government-financed healthcare expenditure went down as a percentage? From 79.4% in 2016 to 78% in 2018? And the amount they spent only rose from 152.2 billion to 166.7 billion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You know I am always pleased to share brexit benefits with you and am more than happy to provide the information showing that this brexit promise has already more than been delivered.

    NHS Spending in 2016 = £191.7bn
    NHS Spending in 2018 = £214.4bn.

    An increase of £22.7bn/52 = £436 million a week.

    Boris and his Tory brexit bus promise as good as his word with the £350,000,000.00 per week increase exceeded even before we were fully out! How amazing is that?

    I'm glad we have such a competent government in charge of the Brexit negotiations and the pandemic. Imagine the chaos, as the infighting Labour party today tear themselves apart, if Corbyn's lot had got it...
    Why can't you read your own links, and do basic math? A year has 52 weeks, two years can't also have 52 weeks (it might be due to vast amounts of really bad whiskey but, after 2016 comes 2017, not 2018). Also you just mistakenly included non-government spending when talking about government financing of the NHS, right?

    2015: Government-financed healthcare expenditure accounted for 79.5% of total spending at £147.1 billion.
    2016: Government-financed healthcare expenditure accounted for 79.4% of total spending, £152.2 billion. <- brexit year obviously no increase due to brexit
    2017: Government-financed healthcare expenditure in 2017 accounted for 79% of total healthcare spending, at £155.6 billion. <- 1st year after brext, less increase (hey, wtf)
    2018: Government-financed healthcare expenditure was £166.7 billion in 2018, accounting for 78% of total healthcare spending.

    From 15 to 16, that's an increase of 5,1bn/52 = 98mio
    From 16 to 17, that's an increase of 3,4bn/52 = 65mio. (hey what happened??)
    From 17 to 18, that's an increase of 11.1bn/52 = 213mio
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Obsolete technology like the BMW owned e-Mini built in Oxford?

    Next Great Brexit benefit revealed today, can you keep up with them eurochums?...

    UK military to get biggest spending boost in 30 years

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54988870

    Some of this spending will probably have to come from the overseas aid budget, but Brexit has allowed us to reduce that budget considerably by not now having to send continuing overseas financial aid to the EU. Every day we wake to another great brexit benefit announcement securing the UK's future with a level of defence spending not seen since our early days of EU membership.

    /Three cheers for brexit
    Since you're suddenly so keen on BBC links, how about this one:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54986195

    Nissan warns that Britains biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is a no-deal Brexit. Which would lead to 7,000 jobs in Sunderland vanishing. Still, they need us more than we need them, full speed ahead off the cliff, eh?

    Brexit collides with reality in just over a month. Hope you're wearing your seatbelt. Tick tock.
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