[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Specialka]

Ofcourse they had, for instance, in 1977 the Dutch could choose between more than 18 parties, including communists, social democrats, Christian democrats, liberals and a pacifist party.

Then I would say that those people failed to convince voters to vote for them. Not that I am not sure if those would have done better than those who were voted into office.

[Machismo]

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So, stop trying to pretend to be the victim in all of this. It's weird how you people don't want to take responsibility for your actions, and want to blame others.

[sircaw]

Your typing style makes me thing your Sircaw, and your deffo not deleted.

It should be easy to spot mine, I always have tons of spelling mistakes in mine, and by the look of it, you could be me too, as i think thing is meant to be think!

[Machismo]

They will probably try to weaponize it against you.

No other reason.

Or... you know... call him out on his lies and bullshit.

[Fuiking]

let's just say I'm checking on your claims. You claim to be this abused and victimized person, yet you won't even say who your main account was.

I'll give you a hint, this is my one and only account I've ever made.

Now, I don't think for a second you'll actually say, because that would simply destroy any narrative you are trying to build.

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Or... you know... call him out on his lies and bullshit.

Feels like its sircaw. Would explain why he's trying to beat around the bush.

Wierd though to reply to his own... comments.. Smells like desperation to me.

[Machismo]

Feels like its sircaw. Would explain why he's trying to beat around the bush.

Wierd though to reply to his own... comments.. Smells like desperation to me.

He's made hundreds upon hundreds of accounts, I think we can all agree why they keep getting deleted.

[sircaw]

Feels like its sircaw. Would explain why he's trying to beat around the bush.

Wierd though to reply to his own... comments.. Smells like desperation to me.

haha, yer it's 100% me, sweet Jesus you got me, you people are brilliant detectives.

Rozz, if you listening, check the fucking ips, check who the burners main account was, i am sure there is a way, after that, inform this desperate idiot, he is wrong.

[Mayhem]

It should be easy to spot mine, I always have tons of spelling mistakes in mine, and by the look of it, you could be me too, as i think thing is meant to be think!

that's the thing, your spelling mistakes are similar

but I don't really care about it, you might be sad enough to actually create multiple accounts here to idk continue to make stupid arguments, the thing that strikes me as weird is that you agree with burner all of the time, even if he makes illogical arguments that make no sense whatsoever

[sircaw]

that's the thing, your spelling mistakes are similar

but I don't really care about it, you might be sad enough to actually create multiple accounts here to idk continue to make stupid arguments, the thing that strikes me as weird is that you agree with burner all of the time, even if he makes illogical arguments that make no sense whatsoever

Well, as i have said many times before, it's not me, I am loud and fucking proud on this account.

As for i might be sad enough to make another account, haha, ok, i think your clutching at straws and some pretty long ones.

And spelling mistakes are similar, i quess that's why they are called spelling mistakes haha. DOH

As for agreeing with the burner all the time, i think you should go back through my history and count how many times i have actually responded to the Burner, i can only recall 4 or 5 times, considering he has made dozens and dozens of alts accounts and hundreds of posts seems your being a little bit of with your counting.

Go on, go back and count them. sigh, this forum haha

[dribbles]

Another day, another Brexit benefit as 7 million British people look forward to an imminent pay rise as the living wage is raised to almost 10 quid an hour.

Brexit Britain's minimum wage increase sparks furious Frexit uproar. "€11.3 per hour. In France, it is €10.5 per hour."" The EU and the euro are preventing a sharp rise of the minimum growth wage (SMIC) in France."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ce-frexit-euro

Will Macron let them have that referendum, or is he scared of the result?.. Smacks of EU remainers wanting to keep working class people on the continent poor, just as they tried and failed here in the UK. For those eurochums in France wanting to leave, we now free British stand side by side with you in your quest for the return of liberty, egalite and fraternity.

[Rozz]

The burner is one thing, but stop antagonizing each other. He's not Sircaw and you all need to stay on topic instead of attacking each other's character.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Another day, another Brexit benefit as 7 million British people look forward to an imminent pay rise as the living wage is raised to almost 10 quid an hour.

Brexit Britain's minimum wage increase sparks furious Frexit uproar. "€11.3 per hour. In France, it is €10.5 per hour."" The EU and the euro are preventing a sharp rise of the minimum growth wage (SMIC) in France."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ce-frexit-euro

Will Macron let them have that referendum, or is he scared of the result?.. Smacks of EU remainers wanting to keep working class people on the continent poor, just as they tried and failed here in the UK. For those eurochums in France wanting to leave, we now free British stand side by side with you in your quest for the return of liberty, egalite and fraternity.

From the article (which, sigh, you clearly didn't read again):

"Critics in the UK questioned how much better off workers will be considering the Chancellor has already hiked National Insurance and cut Universal Credit as inflation rises, with the consumer price inflation rate currently standing at 3.1 percent.

National Insurance Contributions for workers will increase by 1.25 percentage points from April to help pay for the NHS and social care, while he ended the £20-a-week Universal Credit coronavirus uplift earlier this month."

And that 3.1% inflation is only going to go up still further, as the impact of Brexit worsens. The Tories have always relied on giving out £1 in obvious ways while clawing back £2 in ways that aren't obvious. Then people that don't follow what's going on get fooled. So don't let yourself get fooled so easily dribbles; apply a bit of critical thinking to the nonsense that the Mail and Express feed you.

Oh, and just to complete things, please explain how this is a Brexit benefit. Are you implying that they weren't able to put up the minimum wage while we were in the EU? Because that would be a lie. Are you suggesting that the UK government has more money because of Brexit? Because this is being paid by businesses, not the government. Are you suggesting businesses have more money that they did while we were in the EU? Because all the financial information I have access says that categorically isn't the case.

It's almost as if this is literally nothing to do with Brexit, but you've tried to claim it as a benefit because you've got nothing that can be traced to Brexit that isn't bad news. Another one of dribbles "Brexit Benefits" that dies at birth.

[Mayhem]

Another day, another Brexit benefit as 7 million British people look forward to an imminent pay rise as the living wage is raised to almost 10 quid an hour.

Brexit Britain's minimum wage increase sparks furious Frexit uproar. "€11.3 per hour. In France, it is €10.5 per hour."" The EU and the euro are preventing a sharp rise of the minimum growth wage (SMIC) in France."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ce-frexit-euro

Will Macron let them have that referendum, or is he scared of the result?.. Smacks of EU remainers wanting to keep working class people on the continent poor, just as they tried and failed here in the UK. For those eurochums in France wanting to leave, we now free British stand side by side with you in your quest for the return of liberty, egalite and fraternity.

How is the EU preventing that?

Considering Luxembourg has a min wage of 12,7€ how is the EU doing that to France?

[Barzotti]

Another day, another Brexit benefit as 7 million British people look forward to an imminent pay rise as the living wage is raised to almost 10 quid an hour.

Brexit Britain's minimum wage increase sparks furious Frexit uproar. "€11.3 per hour. In France, it is €10.5 per hour."" The EU and the euro are preventing a sharp rise of the minimum growth wage (SMIC) in France."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ce-frexit-euro

Will Macron let them have that referendum, or is he scared of the result?.. Smacks of EU remainers wanting to keep working class people on the continent poor, just as they tried and failed here in the UK. For those eurochums in France wanting to leave, we now free British stand side by side with you in your quest for the return of liberty, egalite and fraternity.

There is zero Frexit uproar. The french newspapers aren't even talking about that. The guy quoted in the article (Charles-Henri Gallois) is an absolute nobody in the french political scene. His party has never had any candidate in any election. No one knows him and no one gives a fuck about his opinion. Why are you using a nobody's opinion who represents no one to generalize about a "Frexit uproar"?

The only candidate who openly talked about Frexit in 2017 for the elections (François Asselineau) got... less than 1% of the votes.

[XDurionX]

There is zero Frexit uproar. The french newspapers aren't even talking about that. The guy quoted in the article (Charles-Henri Gallois) is an absolute nobody in the french political scene. His party has never had any candidate in any election. No one knows him and no one gives a fuck about his opinion.

The only candidate who openly talked about Frexit in 2017 for the elections (François Asselineau) got... less than 1% of the votes.

Sssht, don't confront dribbles with facts, that might unsettle him.

[Barzotti]

Sssht, don't confront dribbles with facts, that might unsettle him.

I'm French myself and I follow the political events closely, but I had to google this guys name. Frexit is a big fat joke in France, no one takes it seriously. The only one defending Frexit did less than 1% in 2017. Even sovereignists like Le Pen don't mention that, it shows you how ridiculous that idea is here.

It's as asinine and ridiculous as claiming that the Communist Party of Britain is a big political force in the UK.

[Mihalik]

From the article (which, sigh, you clearly didn't read again):
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sip

Dribbles has never let reality get in the way of some good propaganda.

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How is the EU preventing that?

Considering Luxembourg has a min wage of 12,7€ how is the EU doing that to France?

It's not. The EU has fuck all to do with setting minimum wages.

Controlling inflation and the valuation of the Euro is a different thing, but again, the issue of minimum wages has fuck all to do with the EU.

[dribbles]

From the article (which, sigh, you clearly didn't read again):

"Critics in the UK questioned how much better off workers will be considering the Chancellor has already hiked National Insurance and cut Universal Credit as inflation rises, with the consumer price inflation rate currently standing at 3.1 percent.

National Insurance Contributions for workers will increase by 1.25 percentage points from April to help pay for the NHS and social care, while he ended the £20-a-week Universal Credit coronavirus uplift earlier this month."

And that 3.1% inflation is only going to go up still further, as the impact of Brexit worsens. The Tories have always relied on giving out £1 in obvious ways while clawing back £2 in ways that aren't obvious. Then people that don't follow what's going on get fooled. So don't let yourself get fooled so easily dribbles; apply a bit of critical thinking to the nonsense that the Mail and Express feed you.

Oh, and just to complete things, please explain how this is a Brexit benefit. Are you implying that they weren't able to put up the minimum wage while we were in the EU? Because that would be a lie. Are you suggesting that the UK government has more money because of Brexit? Because this is being paid by businesses, not the government. Are you suggesting businesses have more money that they did while we were in the EU? Because all the financial information I have access says that categorically isn't the case.

It's almost as if this is literally nothing to do with Brexit, but you've tried to claim it as a benefit because you've got nothing that can be traced to Brexit that isn't bad news. Another one of dribbles "Brexit Benefits" that dies at birth.

Your position is for the UK to rejoin the EU. As you can see that way lies depression of UK wages by business having unfettered access to unlimited supply of cheap labour, mostly from Eastern Europe. As exampled exactly by that Express article and the experience of the French.

The minimum wage increase is a direct result of leaving the EU which will trickle up through the payscales for all workers in Britain. From fruit pickers to lorry drivers and beyond we all get to share the benefits of Brexit as the lowest paid are levelled up as promised by Brexiteers at the referendum.

The folly of rejoining the EU would reverse that benefit and make people poorer. Why do you seem to want that? It just makes no sense.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Your position is for the UK to rejoin the EU. As you can see that way lies depression of UK wages by business having unfettered access to unlimited supply of cheap labour, mostly from Eastern Europe. As exampled exactly by that Express article and the experience of the French.

The minimum wage increase is a direct result of leaving the EU which will trickle up through the payscales for all workers in Britain. From fruit pickers to lorry drivers and beyond we all get to share the benefits of Brexit as the lowest paid are levelled up as promised by Brexiteers at the referendum.

The folly of rejoining the EU would reverse that benefit and make people poorer. Why do you seem to want that? It just makes no sense.

What? If we rejoin the EU, cheap labour would reduce the wages in the UK? Are you suggesting that would push the minimum wage down? Because that isn't how it works. Are you suggesting that companies would employ foreign workers at wages below the minimum wage? Because that would be illegal, and covered by laws put in place while we were still in the EU.

The minimum wage increase is a direct result of leaving the EU

No, it isn't. We raised the minimum wage plenty of times while we were still in the EU.

It just makes no sense.

I'll agree with you on this part. Nothing in your response makes any sense.

[Kallisto]

No, it isn't. We raised the minimum wage plenty of times while we were still in the EU.

Hell, the minimum wage was brought in while we were in the EU under Blair. If the EU was stopping the min wage and the rises then we'd not even have a min wage to begin with.