1. #4001
    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Trump's constant efforts to squash the investigation into his dealings with Russia couldn't be called unrelated.
    People hate witch-hunts that undermine their position and character - shocker!

    Along with every Russian ambassador, lawyer, and other Putinista who has met with Trump in the last 3 years that Trump and his cronies seemingly desperately want to hide their contacts with.
    Where "every" is "exactly one" ambassador and lawyer... so convincing! So many Russian agents met!

    Another bogus qualifier to promote your still unproven conspiracy theory.

    And we even know what they talked about. There is nothing damning in those talks, nor did anything material ever appeared from them.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Yeah, come back when they do something that is even 1/4 of what Nunes has done to tarnish his reputation. It's just unfortunate that he isn't up for election this year. It would be an easy win against him.
    You can point out flaws in other team all day long but you cannot give even single example of what someone on your team did right. Pathetic.

  2. #4002
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    You can point out flaws in other team all day long but you cannot give even single example of what someone on your team did right. Pathetic.
    Sorry, I don't have to defend myself to a known Russian propagandist. The only question is, are you under Putin's employment, or are you really this ignorant? My guess is, you are Putin's employment. Simply because of your adamant defense of your dictator.

  3. #4003
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I asked for single example, not "all actions".

    If someone has no examples at all, it most likely means he is going off stereotypes - which in this case would be most likely partisan stereotypes.

    Plenty of people would be just as authoritarian or even more authoritarian then Putin.

    People get elected in House/Senate because certain people want them there.

    Well, if anything works in Russia it's this...

    - - - Updated - - -

    And yet you cannot name single previous action of Warren you actually approved...
    Wouldnt it be better if you name a few instances on action he has taken that you dont approve of and see if Rip approve?

  4. #4004
    Quote Originally Posted by Deianeira View Post
    Wouldnt it be better if you name a few instances on action he has taken that you dont approve of and see if Rip approve?
    How would i know them? I do not follow American politics that closely.

    I just want to see what people know of their own side to support it; it is obvious that other side is hated (and i can even agree with some of reasons), so discussing that is pointless.

  5. #4005
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    And you know this how?
    LOL..Are you for real? DO you think Republican hysteria will amoutn to nothing?

    Read this:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/video/trum...214800411.html

    President Donald Trump has been talking to his friends about possibly asking Attorney General Jeff Sessions to prosecute Robert Mueller, NBC News reported.

    Republicans are bending backward taking Trump as hard and as deep as they can and I promise you, this has greatly emboldened Trump.

  6. #4006
    Quote Originally Posted by jdbond592 View Post
    LOL..Are you for real? DO you think Republican hysteria will amoutn to nothing?

    Read this:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/video/trum...214800411.html

    President Donald Trump has been talking to his friends about possibly asking Attorney General Jeff Sessions to prosecute Robert Mueller, NBC News reported.

    Republicans are bending backward taking Trump as hard and as deep as they can and I promise you, this has greatly emboldened Trump.
    Trump firing Mueller would actually destroy Trump. Him trying to do this even more, even after saying he wasn't trying to, and then trying this kind of shit will only put Trump in a deeper hole. Besides, what could they possible prosecute him on?

    Dontrike/Shadow Priest/Black Cell Faction Friend Code - 5172-0967-3866

  7. #4007
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Trump firing Mueller would actually destroy Trump. Him trying to do this even more, even after saying he wasn't trying to, and then trying this kind of shit will only put Trump in a deeper hole. Besides, what could they possible prosecute him on?
    Lol...He had a memo written. You can't be serious. They are going to cook up charges. Are you new to third world politics? Well learn fast Republicans have greatly emboldened Trump. Problem is that Sessions will just say no. Doesn't mean Trump won't try.

  8. #4008
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post

    And yet you cannot name single previous action of Warren you actually approved...
    Really? I can't? Being vice-chair of a committee that's the only committee investigating trump/russia that has been praised as behaving in a bipartisan manner. Again, just because you don't think that's something to approve of, just shows me you aren't paying attention.

    And again, show how approving a warrant in the normal course of your duties causes a conflict of interest when using information garnered from that warrant. Stop deflecting. Or do you not have an answer?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  9. #4009
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Really? I can't? Being vice-chair of a committee that's the only committee investigating trump/russia that has been praised as behaving in a bipartisan manner.
    That's not "action", that's just "remaining in Commitee he was in already" (as did Nunes, as far as i'm aware) and external praise.

    And again, show how approving a warrant in the normal course of your duties causes a conflict of interest when using information garnered from that warrant. Stop deflecting. Or do you not have an answer.
    I already explained my reasoning for possibility - self-referential "FISA warrant was lawful because i personally approved it".

  10. #4010
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    That's not "action", that's just "remaining in Commitee he was in already" (as did Nunes, as far as i'm aware) and external praise.

    I already explained my reasoning for possibility - self-referential "FISA warrant was lawful because i personally approved it".
    So chairing a committee isn't an action. You're essentially saying the committee isn't doing anything. Stop with your bullshit.

    That's not an explanation. The FISA warrant was lawful because he approved investigators going to the judge and getting a warrant. Just because you are clueless, doesn't mean we are. Next time learn what we're talking about first before you make up bullshit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  11. #4011
    The Undying Cthulhu 2020's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Rigging your election
    Posts
    33,484
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    People hate witch-hunts that undermine their position and character - shocker!
    You assume it's a witch hunt like you know for certain what went down. This is incredibly dishonest. Especially when we keep finding witches. You know that neither of us knows whether or not Trump is guilty of anything, but just about everyone around him is turning out to be a witch.

    What we do know is that he has taken every effort to try and stop the investigation, not face it head on and defend himself IN COURT like an innocent person would. He's done everything to try and just make it NOT HAPPEN, which is not what innocent people do, and it's not how you prove your innocence in our court system.

    Maybe you're confusing your Russian judicial system with ours; the common tactic there is to just make investigations and people you don't like "go away".

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Where "every" is "exactly one" ambassador and lawyer... so convincing! So many Russian agents met!

    Another bogus qualifier to promote your still unproven conspiracy theory.

    And we even know what they talked about. There is nothing damning in those talks, nor did anything material ever appeared from them.
    Thanks for proving my very point, that when you take a single instance of something out of context, from all of the other Russian connections, it sounds innocent enough... until you start putting all of the pieces together. But that's the only way you have to defend yourself, pretending this is some kind of isolated incident.
    Last edited by Cthulhu 2020; 2018-01-31 at 02:40 PM.
    "Nazis are like cats. If they like you, it's probably because you're feeding them." -John Oliver
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

  12. #4012
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    How would i know them? I do not follow American politics that closely.

    I just want to see what people know of their own side to support it; it is obvious that other side is hated (and i can even agree with some of reasons), so discussing that is pointless.
    Yet here you are every day expression opinions like you do.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    So chairing a committee isn't an action. You're essentially saying the committee isn't doing anything. Stop with your bullshit.

    That's not an explanation. The FISA warrant was lawful because he approved investigators going to the judge and getting a warrant. Just because you are clueless, doesn't mean we are. Next time learn what we're talking about first before you make up bullshit.
    Give him some slack. Remember he doesn't follow American politics closely.

  13. #4013
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    So chairing a committee isn't an action. You're essentially saying the committee isn't doing anything. Stop with your bullshit.
    Give example of his personal work in committee that would show his personal character.

    Otherwise you can just as well say that since House Intelligence Committee did some work Nunes is upstanding citizen.

    That's not an explanation. The FISA warrant was lawful because he approved investigators going to the judge and getting a warrant.
    Being lawful doesn't mean there can be no potential conflict of interest. It would be lawful for Sessions to do investigation instead of Rosenstein too.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    You assume it's a witch hunt like you know for certain what went down.
    I'm just saying that there would be no difference in reaction if he would be innocent.

    I don't care one way or another if he is or isn't.

    Especially when we keep finding witches.
    Every witch hunt did.

  14. #4014
    The Undying Cthulhu 2020's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Rigging your election
    Posts
    33,484
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I'm just saying that there would be no difference in reaction if he would be innocent.
    Guilty people and innocent people act exactly the same huh.

    I was going to say we now know not to take you seriously, but let's just throw that quote on the massive pile of quotes that lets us know we shouldn't take you seriously at all.
    "Nazis are like cats. If they like you, it's probably because you're feeding them." -John Oliver
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

  15. #4015
    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Guilty people and innocent people act exactly the same huh.
    There is enough history of Trump to see how he acts; there are no anomalies that can be used to say he is guilty or innocent.

    Let me predict how it will end up - Trump will respond to Mueller questions, Mueller will say "no charges, nothing to see there", probe wraps up (possibly somewhere after they fail to convict Manafort).

  16. #4016
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Give example of his personal work in committee that would show his personal character.

    Otherwise you can just as well say that since House Intelligence Committee did some work Nunes is upstanding citizen.

    .
    Except we have a concrete example of nunes not being an upstanding citizen.

    It wouldn't be ethical for sessions to do the investigation. Because he's a possible target of that investigation. Like I said, stop with the bullshit. So again, come up with an actual conflict of interest. Instead of just making bullshit up whole-cloth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  17. #4017
    Quote Originally Posted by jdbond592 View Post
    Mueller's days are numbered. He better drop some big names or he is going to get fired soon.
    Run away bot-man...

  18. #4018
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Except we have a concrete example of nunes not being an upstanding citizen.

    It wouldn't be ethical for sessions to do the investigation. Because he's a possible target of that investigation. Like I said, stop with the bullshit. So again, come up with an actual conflict of interest. Instead of just making bullshit up whole-cloth.
    There's reporting that Nunes's staff worked with the Whitehouse when creating the memo too... And the FBI has come out and said there are large inaccuracies in it.

  19. #4019
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    There's reporting that Nunes's staff worked with the Whitehouse when creating the memo too... And the FBI has come out and said there are large inaccuracies in it.
    But you forgot that the FBI is on this. They are being controlled by both the president of the deep state and the shadow president.

  20. #4020
    Quote Originally Posted by some guy View Post
    But you forgot that the FBI is on this. They are being controlled by both the president of the deep state and the shadow president.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •