1. #5721
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    You know, with an avatar like that, it's no surprise you can win any argument with just one sentence.

    On topic:

    FOX News has the worst luck. They are running this cover story, about Nunes' "phase two" attacking the Steele dossier, at exactly the same time the FBI grabs the son-in-law of someone named in it. Wow. Could be coincidence, I suppose, but that's some horrible luck right there.
    is the Muller investigation ever going to touch on Fox news? especially in regards to fox and Friends and Sean Hannity. I get they are the mouth piece of the GOP but Trump's relationship with them is just disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Really? So how long does the "easiest to prove" take? If it is so "easy" - especially the obstruction - why no results yet?
    why are you in such a rush to see your man crush get dragged out of the white house?

  2. #5722
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    If 42k in Facebook ads, is all it takes to rig an election, I'm going to start a PAC to get Chuck Norris elected.
    Is 42k the going rate for 126 million views? No wonder they're struggling.

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    CNN reports that Van Der Zwann, like Gates, is due to plead guilty.

    "Person A" is in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Really? So how long does the "easiest to prove" take? If it is so "easy" - especially the obstruction - why no results yet?

    Oh, right....the Skroe line that you peeps like to use "These things take time". Guess maybe it is not that "easy", eh?
    You obviously have access to Mueller's investigation. Why don't you prove your claims that the investigation isn't bearing fruit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hella clutch View Post
    is the Muller investigation ever going to touch on Fox news?
    No.

    There really aren't any campaign rules, FEC laws, or the like that FOX News could have realistically broken here. Their problem is the likely pulling of ads if it's found they're supporting direct collusion with Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Really? So how long does the "easiest to prove" take? If it is so "easy" - especially the obstruction - why no results yet?

    Oh, right....the Joe Skroeborough line that you peeps like to use "These things take time". Guess maybe it is not that "easy", eh?
    You are the most adorable thinking that "taking time" is a line to use rather than a reality with all things, that they happen in their own time. It's hilarious how you don't get that these actually take time, nor that collusion would be the hardest to prove among all of the obvious corrupt and illegal bullshit he has done. You think that by me saying collusion is the hardest is me admitting something of value to you, but that is the truth of it. Of call of Trump's illegal misdeeds money laundering and obstruction would be among the easiest to prove while collusion is the hardest, as something like this has never happened before.

    I can already see you at night clutching your Trumpy Bear, wishing that those super mean investigations would stop. It matches the child like tantrums you throw when Trump is in trouble at every point and turn. As soon as those Russians were indicted you couldn't help but try and come to his defense like he's worth it. You go on and skip rope while the adults talk.

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  7. #5727
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I grasp nuance just fine. You, on the other hand, need to work on your communication skills if you meant something different than what you said. Trump didn't admit Russia meddled last year, he said it could be anyone who did it. He's also said he believes Putin when he says Russia didn't meddle. Soooo....
    The latter is obviously geopolitics. At that point, Trump was still trying to get Russia to help with ISIS. You act as if it's bad to put the country before himself. That's a pretty bizarre stance to take.

    Trump admitted to Russian meddling in January of 2017. He he has never, and will never, admit that it changed the election, because it didn't. NO sane person thinks that. Even Wolf Blitzer doesn't think that. Hillary Clinton might say she does, but I sort of doubt she does, deep down inside.

    Again, 42k in Facebook ads is factually insufficient to change an election where 2 billion fucking dollars was spent on ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Really? So how long does the "easiest to prove" take? If it is so "easy" - especially the obstruction - why no results yet?

    Oh, right....the Skroe line that you peeps like to use "These things take time". Guess maybe it is not that "easy", eh?
    Question: What are you going to do if Trump himself is actually shown to have been involved with either money laundering or collusion.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  9. #5729
    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    You obviously have access to Mueller's investigation. Why don't you prove your claims that the investigation isn't bearing fruit?
    @Ransath proving claims would be like a humpback whale learning to do taxes.

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  10. #5730
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    No.

    There really aren't any campaign rules, FEC laws, or the like that FOX News could have realistically broken here. Their problem is the likely pulling of ads if it's found they're supporting direct collusion with Russia.
    oh ok, well I hope to see Hannity twist himself into a knot with this investigation ramping up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    And where are you getting that he hasn't entered one, because almost everywhere is showing that he has agreed to plead guilty. If he wants to back out of it he can, but I hope he likes not having any money when this is over.
    No, there is a single report out there that he HAS agreed - he is "supposed" to according to the LA Times and CBS News, but as of the time I am typing this he HAS NOT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Ransath and you think that exact thing.
    Bullshit - I have never ONCE said that Russian did not meddle in the elections. In fact, what I have said is OF COURSE they have, and they have been doing it for YEARS. The meddle by propaganda. They have since the days of Krushev.

    I don't believe for one second, though, that they hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikileaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    The latter is obviously geopolitics. At that point, Trump was still trying to get Russia to help with ISIS. You act as if it's bad to put the country before himself. That's a pretty bizarre stance to take.
    He decided to put the country before himself by denying persistent efforts by Russia to undermine American stability.

    Kay.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  13. #5733
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I grasp nuance just fine. You, on the other hand, need to work on your communication skills if you meant something different than what you said. Trump didn't admit Russia meddled last year, he said it could be anyone who did it. He's also said he believes Putin when he says Russia didn't meddle. Soooo....
    So we need a "what TJ meant was..." thing going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    I don't believe for one second, though, that they hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikipedia.
    Despite it being pretty much confirmed by every major intelligence agency.

    Also, Wikileaks. Not Wikipedia, lol.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  15. #5735
    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Have you seriously devolved so far that all you can do is mash as many LOL's into your post as possible? Are you really that desperate since Trump's entire team is a bunch of criminals?

    Part of me wants to get the mods in here, but then you'd just cry bias (even though many on the left have been banned, so your eternal "I'm a poor victim!" would be fun to watch), and part of me wants to watch you flail around and make stupid statements that you can't even back up.

    LOL!

    LOLOLOLOL!

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
    To see that he isnt banned yet still amazes me. He always devolves (quite rapidly) to this mumbling persona, throwing arguments that could be bad for even 5 year olds
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  16. #5736
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    The latter is obviously geopolitics. At that point, Trump was still trying to get Russia to help with ISIS. You act as if it's bad to put the country before himself. That's a pretty bizarre stance to take.

    Trump admitted to Russian meddling in January of 2017. He he has never, and will never, admit that it changed the election, because it didn't. NO sane person thinks that. Even Wolf Blitzer doesn't think that. Hillary Clinton might say she does, but I sort of doubt she does, deep down inside.

    Again, 42k in Facebook ads is factually insufficient to change an election where 2 billion fucking dollars was spent on ads.
    His statements after that disprove your self serving assertions. You're arguing with Trump himself about what he said.

    Tread lightly. He may stick you with a nickname his supporters will parrot for eternity out of a desperate need to appear clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Question: What are you going to do if Trump himself is actually shown to have been involved with either money laundering or collusion.
    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

    Collusion? Well, since collusion is not even a legal term (and there is no "collusion" laws of any kind) - if he is found guilty of conspiracy, in conjunction with Russia to somehow defraud this country? I would be happy to pull the trap door and watch him dangle on a rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    I don't believe for one second, though, that they hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikipedia.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA "Wikipeida" HAHAHAHAHA

  19. #5739
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowmelded View Post
    Is 42k the going rate for 126 million views? No wonder they're struggling.
    42k is what Russia spent BEFORE the election. The overwhelming majority of the money spent, in the 13 Russians indictment, happened AFTER the election. Your article is referencing the total influence, not just the pre-election influence. NO sane person thinks the Russians impacted the election. Democrat leaders don't even think that. Adam full of Schiff doesn't even think that. The issue is that they tried, and next time they might be more successful. No prominent Democrat is saying Hillary lost unfairly, that is not named Hillary. Even Bill doesn't say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Despite it being pretty much confirmed by every major intelligence agency.

    Also, Wikileaks. Not Wikipedia, lol.
    The only entity that touched the DNC server was a 3rd party, a partisan company called CrowdStrike. The FBI NEVER touched that server - no intelligence agency has ever conducted any forensics on that server. The intelligence community took the word of CrowdStrike and that was it.

    BTW - thanks on the Wikileaks, fixed. (lol)

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