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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Really? So how long does the "easiest to prove" take? If it is so "easy" - especially the obstruction - why no results yet?

    Oh, right....the Skroe line that you peeps like to use "These things take time". Guess maybe it is not that "easy", eh?
    Question: What are you going to do if Trump himself is actually shown to have been involved with either money laundering or collusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    You obviously have access to Mueller's investigation. Why don't you prove your claims that the investigation isn't bearing fruit?
    @Ransath proving claims would be like a humpback whale learning to do taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    No.

    There really aren't any campaign rules, FEC laws, or the like that FOX News could have realistically broken here. Their problem is the likely pulling of ads if it's found they're supporting direct collusion with Russia.
    oh ok, well I hope to see Hannity twist himself into a knot with this investigation ramping up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    And where are you getting that he hasn't entered one, because almost everywhere is showing that he has agreed to plead guilty. If he wants to back out of it he can, but I hope he likes not having any money when this is over.
    No, there is a single report out there that he HAS agreed - he is "supposed" to according to the LA Times and CBS News, but as of the time I am typing this he HAS NOT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Ransath and you think that exact thing.
    Bullshit - I have never ONCE said that Russian did not meddle in the elections. In fact, what I have said is OF COURSE they have, and they have been doing it for YEARS. The meddle by propaganda. They have since the days of Krushev.

    I don't believe for one second, though, that they hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikileaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    The latter is obviously geopolitics. At that point, Trump was still trying to get Russia to help with ISIS. You act as if it's bad to put the country before himself. That's a pretty bizarre stance to take.
    He decided to put the country before himself by denying persistent efforts by Russia to undermine American stability.

    Kay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I grasp nuance just fine. You, on the other hand, need to work on your communication skills if you meant something different than what you said. Trump didn't admit Russia meddled last year, he said it could be anyone who did it. He's also said he believes Putin when he says Russia didn't meddle. Soooo....
    So we need a "what TJ meant was..." thing going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    I don't believe for one second, though, that they hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikipedia.
    Despite it being pretty much confirmed by every major intelligence agency.

    Also, Wikileaks. Not Wikipedia, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Have you seriously devolved so far that all you can do is mash as many LOL's into your post as possible? Are you really that desperate since Trump's entire team is a bunch of criminals?

    Part of me wants to get the mods in here, but then you'd just cry bias (even though many on the left have been banned, so your eternal "I'm a poor victim!" would be fun to watch), and part of me wants to watch you flail around and make stupid statements that you can't even back up.

    LOL!

    LOLOLOLOL!

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    The latter is obviously geopolitics. At that point, Trump was still trying to get Russia to help with ISIS. You act as if it's bad to put the country before himself. That's a pretty bizarre stance to take.

    Trump admitted to Russian meddling in January of 2017. He he has never, and will never, admit that it changed the election, because it didn't. NO sane person thinks that. Even Wolf Blitzer doesn't think that. Hillary Clinton might say she does, but I sort of doubt she does, deep down inside.

    Again, 42k in Facebook ads is factually insufficient to change an election where 2 billion fucking dollars was spent on ads.
    His statements after that disprove your self serving assertions. You're arguing with Trump himself about what he said.

    Tread lightly. He may stick you with a nickname his supporters will parrot for eternity out of a desperate need to appear clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Question: What are you going to do if Trump himself is actually shown to have been involved with either money laundering or collusion.
    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

    Collusion? Well, since collusion is not even a legal term (and there is no "collusion" laws of any kind) - if he is found guilty of conspiracy, in conjunction with Russia to somehow defraud this country? I would be happy to pull the trap door and watch him dangle on a rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    I don't believe for one second, though, that they hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikipedia.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA "Wikipeida" HAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowmelded View Post
    Is 42k the going rate for 126 million views? No wonder they're struggling.
    42k is what Russia spent BEFORE the election. The overwhelming majority of the money spent, in the 13 Russians indictment, happened AFTER the election. Your article is referencing the total influence, not just the pre-election influence. NO sane person thinks the Russians impacted the election. Democrat leaders don't even think that. Adam full of Schiff doesn't even think that. The issue is that they tried, and next time they might be more successful. No prominent Democrat is saying Hillary lost unfairly, that is not named Hillary. Even Bill doesn't say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Despite it being pretty much confirmed by every major intelligence agency.

    Also, Wikileaks. Not Wikipedia, lol.
    The only entity that touched the DNC server was a 3rd party, a partisan company called CrowdStrike. The FBI NEVER touched that server - no intelligence agency has ever conducted any forensics on that server. The intelligence community took the word of CrowdStrike and that was it.

    BTW - thanks on the Wikileaks, fixed. (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.
    Which is so hilarious considering how much vitriol you spew against other "criminals" for breaking the law.

    Party before god, law, and country. Don't pretend to be otherwise.

    Collusion? Well, since collusion is not even a legal term (and there is no "collusion" laws of any kind) - if he is found guilty of conspiracy, in conjunction with Russia to somehow defraud this country? I would be happy to pull the trap door and watch him dangle on a rope.
    We have no illusions that you won't go to your grave claiming Trump was framed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHA "Wikipeida" HAHAHAHAHA
    Glad you find so much laughter in an auto correct. Boy, you sure got me there. Man, what will I do now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    42k is what Russia spent BEFORE the election. The overwhelming majority of the money spent, in the 13 Russians indictment, happened AFTER the election. Your article is referencing the total influence, not just the pre-election influence. NO sane person thinks the Russians impacted the election. Democrat leaders don't even think that. Adam full of Schiff doesn't even think that. The issue is that they tried, and next time they might be more successful. No prominent Democrat is saying Hillary lost unfairly, that is not named Hillary. Even Bill doesn't say that.
    Not sure where you're getting your 42k number from but it doesn't seem to be accurate. The point being, you're focusing on money spent rather than people reached which seems silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    he intelligence community took the word of CrowdStrike and that was it.
    Prove it, if it's so readily apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowmelded View Post
    Not sure where you're getting your 42k number from but it doesn't seem to be accurate. The point being, you're focusing on money spent rather than people reached which seems silly.
    I got it from the congressional testimony Facebook gave. That figure is according to the people who got the money. I can't read your paywall article and I'm not turning off the ad blocker. Feel free to cut and paste it, if you like.

    It's not silly to focus on the money spent, when you realize how much more the campaigns spent, and we don't have figures on how many they reached. It's safe to say though, that 42k reaches less people than 80 million reaches. I mean, that's just basic math.

    Use your common sense, and you will see this whole thing was a major fail by Russia. Most of they money they spent, was in BLUE states. They weren't even good at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

    Collusion? Well, since collusion is not even a legal term (and there is no "collusion" laws of any kind) - if he is found guilty of conspiracy, in conjunction with Russia to somehow defraud this country? I would be happy to pull the trap door and watch him dangle on a rope.
    It's a shame that you are so willing to support a corrupt liar, sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Daddy Trump before god, law, and country. Don't pretend to be otherwise.
    I think that's more accurate for that guy.

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