1. #7101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    I was going to go with Ivan. Seems a lot of Russians are named Ivan.
    You missed the reference.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n

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  2. #7102
    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    No. I think I'll continue to put my faith in people who aren't interested in being so pedantic, interpreting what I wrote correctly.

    I'm not interested in catering to you.
    You mean assigning assumed meaning to your words that mean something completely different than what you're intending to say.

  3. #7103
    ...broke into the office
    Because Trump has no fucking clue how warrants actually work.

    ...an attack on our country
    No, this is the language of petty authoritarians. Trump is not the country. He's (depressingly) the head of state. He represents the country, but is not the country. I'd call our law enforcement diligently following up on any criminal wrongdoing, even if by the president and/or those close to him, as them protecting the country, but that's just me. I guess I'm not a petty authoritarian who thinks the world revolves around me.

  4. #7104
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You mean assigning assumed meaning to your words that mean something completely different than what you're intending to say.
    No. I mean plain wording that anyone who isn't interested in pedantry for the sake of it is able to comprehend.

    Pretty simple stuff really. It's odd you're having such a difficult time with it. It's almost as if it's designed entirely to serve your penchant for being a pedant.

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    Damn, that nothingburger keeps getting bigger. We've added lettuce, pickles, tomatoes and now ketchup. Pretty soon it might be...a real burger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    Damn, that nothingburger keeps getting bigger. We've added lettuce, pickles, tomatoes and now ketchup. Pretty soon it might be...a real burger?
    I mean, we have to see what this is all about. I think a lot of people (myself included) really used the nothingburger title in reference to Trump-Russia collusion, and so far this looks like bank fraud and campaign finance violations by Cohen. Which is worthy of investigation, don't get me wrong. And if Trump lied about his knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payment, that could be problematic too.
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    man /the donald is really popcorn worthy...tonight.

    they are more creative with their deep state conspiracies then most writers are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I mean, we have to see what this is all about. I think a lot of people (myself included) really used the nothingburger title in reference to Trump-Russia collusion, and so far this looks like bank fraud and campaign finance violations by Cohen. which is worthy of investigation, don't get me wrong. And if Trump lied about his knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payment, that could be problematic too.
    I think A LOT of people were using nothingburger to describe any accusations made against Trump or his associates regardless of validity of those accusations. Many of those accusations have resulted in somethingburgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    man /the donald is really popcorn worthy...tonight.

    they are more creative with their deep state conspiracies then most writers are
    I'm continually almost tempted to go down that rabbit hole again, but the last few times have always left me with such a depressing view of the future of humanity that I'm still too terrified to return. Call me a snowflake, but I just can't even "enjoy" wallowing in that kind of depravity and fantasy anymore.

  10. #7110
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I mean, we have to see what this is all about. I think a lot of people (myself included) really used the nothingburger title in reference to Trump-Russia collusion, and so far this looks like bank fraud and campaign finance violations by Cohen. Which is worthy of investigation, don't get me wrong. And if Trump lied about his knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payment, that could be problematic too.
    You know who doesn't think it's worthy of being investigated?

    Your boy, Trump.

    Crazy, right?

  11. #7111
    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Will you be defending people who think women should be murdered over abortion this time?
    I expressed regret over that once it came out that his statements were not heat-of-the-moment, taken out of context. Is that not enough? Even the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic who hired him defended him in this manner until these facts came to light. I wouldn't normally interrupt the thread for this, but you keep mentioning it in unrelated threads, so I hope we can put this to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    You know who doesn't think it's worthy of being investigated?

    Your boy, Trump.

    Crazy, right?
    He's not my boy.

    I just happen to think Trump-Russia is a nothingburger. I understand that has come to mean he's "my boy", but it isn't so.

  12. #7112
    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    Damn, that nothingburger keeps getting bigger. We've added lettuce, pickles, tomatoes and now ketchup. Pretty soon it might be...a real burger?
    At this point it's more like the Lost Boys feast from Hook.

  13. #7113
    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    Damn, that nothingburger keeps getting bigger. We've added lettuce, pickles, tomatoes and now ketchup. Pretty soon it might be...a real burger?
    Its must be a deep state fake burger because there are no sesame seeds on the bun!
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  14. #7114
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I expressed regret over that once it came out that his statements were not heat-of-the-moment, taken out of context. Is that not enough? Even the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic who hired him defended him in this manner until these facts came to light. I wouldn't normally interrupt the thread for this, but you keep mentioning it in unrelated threads, so I hope we can put this to bed.

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    He's not my boy.

    I just happen to think Trump-Russia is a nothingburger. I understand that has come to mean he's "my boy", but it isn't so.
    Incorrect. You have attached yourself to every(incorrect) argument that attempts to delegitimize Mueller and the investigation. You have taken every opportunity to do so. And even when faced with the absurdity of the arguments that you attached yourself to, you bend yourself into a pretzel trying to explain how it's all "nothing".

    The fact you continue to think so after all the supposed research you have done is an indication that you might not be cut out for this.

    But naturally your reply doesn't address the larger point. That being that the president disagrees with you about the legitimacy of investigating Cohen. There doesn't seem to be much from you on that.

    How. Odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm continually almost tempted to go down that rabbit hole again, but the last few times have always left me with such a depressing view of the future of humanity that I'm still too terrified to return. Call me a snowflake, but I just can't even "enjoy" wallowing in that kind of depravity and fantasy anymore.
    Yeah I can't do it. I'm better off reading actual substance to actually learn what's going on. I guess it's fine if you enjoy the drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    Incorrect. You have attached yourself to every(incorrect) argument that attempts to delegitimize Mueller and the investigation. You have taken every opportunity to do so. And even when faced with the absurdity of the arguments that you attached yourself to, you bend yourself into a pretzel trying to explain how it's all "nothing".

    The fact you continue to think so after all the supposed research you have done is an indication that you might not be cut out for this.
    Alright, it's spinning out of control. We should just keep this about the new development and less about me.

  16. #7116
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Yeah I can't do it. I'm better off reading actual substance to actually learn what's going on. I guess it's fine if you enjoy the drama.

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    Alright, it's spinning out of control. We should just keep this about the new development and less about me.
    Incorrect again.

    Your opinion, such as it is, remains colored, influenced, and hindered by your default and absurd notion that everything regarding Trump and Russia is frabricated by justice officials. That is relevant to whether you can discuss this with any degree of validity.

  17. #7117
    Just saying if you are a Lawyer and got raided you are probably 100% screwed. I don't think people realize how rare and unheard of this is due to the nature of client privacy and confidentiality. You don't order this unless you know you are 100%+ sure you will find something...

  18. #7118
    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    But naturally your reply doesn't address the larger point. That being that the president disagrees with you about the legitimacy of investigating Cohen. There doesn't seem to be much from you on that.

    How. Odd.
    Trump can think investigating Cohen is a witch hunt all he wants, I don't think Mueller and the Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York are raiding his office without substantial reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    Incorrect again.

    Your opinion, such as it is, remains colored, influenced, and hindered by your default and absurd notion that everything regarding Trump and Russia is frabricated by justice officials. That is relevant to whether you can discuss this with any degree of validity.
    We're still waiting for evidence of criminal collusion. Papadoupolos (at least as far as what Mueller has produced) is as close as we've come, and I've written probably a hundred paragraphs about why it is not evidence of criminal collusion. Strictly speaking about what Mueller has produced, there is nothing in the way of Trump-Russia criminal collusion. If Trump Tower or any of the other highlights gain the attention of Mueller, we can talk about that then.

  19. #7119
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Trump can think investigating Cohen is a witch hunt all he wants, I don't think Mueller and the Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York are raiding his office without substantial reason.
    So you think a judge just signed off on the warrant because...why the fuck not?

    It's amazing how suddenly when Trump is involved, everything becomes instantly suspect in a way that benefits him.

  20. #7120
    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    No. I mean plain wording that anyone who isn't interested in pedantry for the sake of it is able to comprehend.

    Pretty simple stuff really. It's odd you're having such a difficult time with it. It's almost as if it's designed entirely to serve your penchant for being a pedant.
    Plain wording would have included a modifier of some type. Otherwise your statement is fallacious and, most assuredly, not plainly worded.

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