1. #17101
    Merely a Setback Adam Jensen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sarif Industries, Detroit
    Posts
    26,228
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    And found

    NOTHING.
    Except for the hundreds of indictments, and numerous guilty pleas and prison sentences, but other than that, nothing.
    3.6 roentgen . . . not great, not terrible. - Comrade Dyatlov

  2. #17102
    Banned Elegiac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    The Left Coast
    Posts
    43,154
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Except for the hundreds of indictments, and numerous guilty pleas and prison sentences, but other than that, nothing.
    People seem to forget that this is taking place in a judicial landscape that is incredibly favorable to Trump and his associates at the moment.

    If things are this bad with people like Barr and McConnell covering for him, imagine what the alternative would look like.

  3. #17103
    You know, I think it still holds true, we have to see what the report says, like many have been saying since the beginning, considering that the only person saying things have said "maybe, maybe not" on the subject on it.

    In the end if Trump really did nothing then it is a good thing that we were able to uncover lots of corruption and removed those people from the government in any way.

    At the end of the day Trump is still a terrible person, done near zero when it comes to positive effects on the country, and he still has about 20 other investigations for all of the other things he has done. He is full on corrupt and we'll only see more failure moving forward.

    We do have one issue that should be changed and that a president should be indicted while sitting. It's a little crazy to think that the president is above the law, which in fact he/she is not.

    With that said I'm sure Trump will be elected again, but that's because people are self destructive.
    Last edited by Dontrike; 2019-03-25 at 12:09 AM.

    Dontrike/Shadow Priest/Black Cell Faction Friend Code - 5172-0967-3866

  4. #17104
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Except for the hundreds of indictments, and numerous guilty pleas and prison sentences, but other than that, nothing.
    NO collusion.

    THE END.

  5. #17105
    I am Murloc! Thepersona's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Santiago, Chile
    Posts
    5,172
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    25 of those were for members of the Russian version of 4chan

    Good LUCK getting them into court
    And still it found at least 2-3 very high profile people guilty, or in the works of that (Flynn, Manafort and Stone)
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  6. #17106
    Banned Elegiac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    The Left Coast
    Posts
    43,154
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    NO collusion.

    THE END.
    Cool.

    Let's talk about obstruction of justice and tax fraud.

  7. #17107
    I am Murloc! Thepersona's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Santiago, Chile
    Posts
    5,172
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    NO collusion.

    THE END.
    I dont want to be that guy (or recieve an infraction) but please, do not repeat the talking point of the russian trolls, verbatim.
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  8. #17108
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    And found

    NOTHING.
    Eh, we all know that's not true. The report does not "establish" which means they didn't reach the standard of proof of "beyond a reasonable doubt." There's a ways between that and the "clear and convincing" or "preponderance of the evidence" standards of proof. And even that pronouncement is weirdly specific, though we've got a clear reason why it's that specific and that comes from manafort's lawyers: manafort was passing internal campaign polling data to a guy (kilimnik) associated with russian intel, who works for a guy (deripaska) who considers himself "one with the [russian] state."
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  9. #17109
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Cool.

    Let's talk about obstruction of justice and tax fraud.
    And money laundering, and bribery, an-

  10. #17110
    The Insane Belize's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Gen-OT College of Shitposting
    Posts
    17,586
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    It also doesn't exonerate him, which is the big thing. So really all that was said was "maybe, maybe not." Which is about the biggest tease you can do with something like this.
    That's not even what Mueller said too, it's Barr's interpretation of the report.

    Barr who has all the interest in the world to skew his interpretation

  11. #17111
    Pandaren Monk Mekkle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    My desk, Lurkin'.
    Posts
    1,983
    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    And money laundering, and bribery, an-
    these crimes are likely gonna be swept under i believe.

  12. #17112
    Pandaren Monk Sinyc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,864
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Not fact.

    The only thing we know is that Barr decided almost unilaterally that he didn't think it was.
    Didn't he directly quote the Mueller report?
    Why would he misquote the report knowing that this will either get into the Public Eye and his summary could be shown as a fraud or it makes it to the Courts and the same thing happens?

    You are conflating the Mueller findings on COLLUSION and CORRUPTION of Justice. Please don't do that! Thanks.

  13. #17113
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    Her point was that no money was wasted because the assets seized more than covered the cost of the investigation, so perhaps stop parroting that debunked talking point? If you want to drown your sorrows and boohoo and woe is me over it all this isn't the right thread for it. Sorry.

  14. #17114
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    I dont want to be that guy (or recieve an infraction) but please, do not repeat the talking point of the russian trolls, verbatim.
    Ill repeat whatever i like since its my opinion and mine alone.

    Muellers report is a nothingburger. A failure.

    He found bupkis. No collusion. No proof. Two years to achieve what I said would be the result two years ago.

    Nothing.
    Last edited by Aehl; 2019-03-25 at 12:15 AM.

  15. #17115
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    That's not even what Mueller said too, it's Barr's interpretation of the report.

    Barr who has all the interest in the world to skew his interpretation
    Which brings up what I've been saying for a while, WE (the American people) have to see the report.

    As I said previously, if Trump isn't then we sure found a lot of people surrounding him doing what he was looked into for, and it's good they were removed and found out.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    And money laundering, and bribery, an-
    And witness tampering, and emolument clauses violations, an-

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    Didn't he directly quote the Mueller report?
    No .

    Dontrike/Shadow Priest/Black Cell Faction Friend Code - 5172-0967-3866

  16. #17116
    I am Murloc! Thepersona's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Santiago, Chile
    Posts
    5,172
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    Ill repeat whatever i like since its my opinion and mine alone.

    Muellers report is a nothingburger. A failure.

    He found bupkis. No collusion. No proof,. Two years to achieve what I said would be the result two years ago.

    Nothing.
    It achieved a lot of guilty pleas, jail time and indictments. and we still dont know the contents of the report. Just a 2 page, doctored and sanitized version.
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  17. #17117
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekkle View Post
    these crimes are likely gonna be swept under i believe.
    In so far as it won’t come to bite Trump on the ass until he’s out of office.

  18. #17118
    Merely a Setback Adam Jensen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sarif Industries, Detroit
    Posts
    26,228
    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    And money laundering, and bribery, an-
    And just being a terrible excuse of a human being.

    A pity that's not illegal.
    3.6 roentgen . . . not great, not terrible. - Comrade Dyatlov

  19. #17119
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekkle View Post
    these crimes are likely gonna be swept under i believe.
    Nope. SDNY is already all over it and salivating for when Trump is no longer in office and is therefore vulnerable. With evidence passed to them from Mueller's investigation.

  20. #17120
    Pandaren Monk Sinyc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,864
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    No.
    What? His summary literally says as much... Do you honestly believe the quoted part is not in fact a quote from the report as it says it is???

    As the report states: “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •