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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And people like him continually forget the Deutsche Bank issue - just one more of the litany of illegal actions from their Dear Leader.




    Another convenient fact those Trumpkins forget. If it weren't for reality, Trump's rabid fanbase would have having a great year.
    Yeah the list is endless, and yeah, we can always rely on conservatives to keep doubling down on insane conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Yeah the list is endless, and yeah, we can always rely on conservatives to keep doubling down on insane conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality.
    And they are going to latch onto this FISA thing like an anchor to a drowning man.

    I fear that Trump won't see justice until post-2020 election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And they are going to latch onto this FISA thing like an anchor to a drowning man.

    I fear that Trump won't see justice until post-2020 election.
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.

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    Barr might be more of a hack than Matthew Whitaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.
    Oh you read the Mueller report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.
    Who didn't find evidence of that and where is your quote of them finding no evidence?

    I challenge you to produce it now or you are lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Who didn't find evidence of that and where is your quote of them finding no evidence?

    I challenge you to produce it now or you are lying.
    I expect him to pull The Waterboy Defense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.
    Yawn, do you have any other argument, or are you going to be stuck repeating the same 2 debunked points for the foreseeable future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Yawn, do you have any other argument, or are you going to be stuck repeating the same 2 debunked points for the foreseeable future?
    My prediction is the latter ad nauseum or until people stop responding to him.

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    I heard if you tap your heels together and say Russian hoax 3 times you return to Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    Are the WMDs in Syria as well? It is not illegal look at the John Edwards case. He used actual campaign money not his own. This is at worse a fine to the FEC. This investigation into the Russian hoax was predicated on nothing, Barr will get to the bottom of this.
    So no real rebuttal to anything that was said, only more feelings about another person's feelings.

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    Do you understand that a special consul has looked at this for two years and found nothing right?
    Do you understand what you just said was bullshit, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.
    Weird how many lied about talking to Russia, Manafort gave polling data to Russians, Trump literally owes more than half a billion to a bank known for laundering money for Russia, and even more, but don't let obvious shit like that stop you from lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.
    We literally have evidence, from the trumps themselves, that they colluded with russia (jr's email, and the press release sr dictated). We know manafort gave them internal polling data, from manafort's own attorney. You can keep being wrong, it's never going to make you right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    Are the WMDs in Syria as well?
    I like how the Trumpkins bring up WMD, an incident where the US intelligence community thought there might be some there, briefed Bush on it, urged him not to say anything because they weren't certain yet, and Bush let the cat out of the bag anyway, and when it turned out to be false, people who hate the FBI/CIA now because of the Trump information they're putting out, suddenly blame the WMD SNAFU on the intelligence community, even though it was a different investigation with different people in a different time.

    People just be pretty desperate to exonerate Trump if they're willing to call someone a liar simply because a completely different guy down the street lied one time 20 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    The Russian hoax is the conspiracy. They have found no evidence that Trump or anyone in the campaign colluded or conspired with anyone from Russia. This is the WMD argument all over again.
    Uhm... the WMD argument is literally the same as the one Trump makes about Iran. If no one in his campaign collided or conspired, who is Trump saying he might pardon? Some random dudes? Have you checked if you were one of the voters that Russia stole registration records from? Because the investigation found they stole half a million...

    You can claim Trump is innocent all you like... but, white washing the investigation finding that Russia stole 500000 voter registration record, by claiming this was some conspiracy? Fucked... fucked on a major scale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    People just be pretty desperate to exonerate Trump if they're willing to call someone a liar simply because a completely different guy down the street lied one time 20 years ago.
    It’s fucking stupid, because Bush didn’t trust the U.N. or even US intelligence with his choice to go after Iraq. It’s the same shit Trump is doing with Iran, North Korea and Russia. 3 > 1... winning!
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    boy, this whole Muller thing went from some peoples wet dream to worst nightmare. I wonder how many people that started this whole thing will be indited for spying, collusion and / or obstruction of justice? Nadler should be the first in my opinion he has been screaming for months now to have proof; which honestly so has a bunch of people, but in the end the American justice system prevailed again...Amazing the length that some will go to undermine persons they dislike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vago View Post
    boy, this whole Muller thing went from some peoples wet dream to worst nightmare. I wonder how many people that started this whole thing will be indited for spying, collusion and / or obstruction of justice? Nadler should be the first in my opinion he has been screaming for months now to have proof; which honestly so has a bunch of people, but in the end the American justice system prevailed again...Amazing the length that some will go to undermine persons they dislike.

    God Bless America!
    Oh did Nadler get to read the Mueller report? Was there a trial that used evidence from the special counsel 8nvestiagtion that exonerated Trump and his campaign, transition team, and administration from collusion and obstruction of justice?
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    Former DNI Clapper found Barr's revelation alarming.

    "I thought it was both stunning and scary," Clapper said in an appearance on CNN Wednesday. "I was amazed at that and rather disappointed that the attorney general would say such a thing."

    "The term 'spying' has all kinds of negative connotations and I have to believe he chose that term deliberately," he added.

    Clapper denounced Barr for expressing such concerns at a public hearing instead of seeking a briefing from the Justice Department's inspector general on the probe into whether the FBI mishandled warrant applications under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

    "It would have been far more appropriate for him to just defer to that investigation rather than postulating with apparently no evidence. He just has a feeling that there was spying against the campaign," he said.

    "…We're focusing on this circus about whether or not somebody was spying on the campaign, which is, I think, a gross misstatement," Clapper added.
    Bolded for I ninja'd that shit. Yes, Barr wants an investigation based on no evidence (not "no evidence he can show" he said he had no evidence) but decided to make the announcement publicly. By the way, what do people usually call an investigation with no evidence, started purely based on feelings? Is it WITCH HUNT or fishing expedition? I forget.

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    The National Enquirer is up for sale.

    It might have something to do with the porn star that Trump slept with, who was not his wife, and paying her thing.

    Or, it could be the Saudi Arabia hacking/blackmail thing.

    Either way, it seems that another friend/ally of Trump went out on a limb to help him out, and now, is losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vago View Post
    boy, this whole Muller thing went from some peoples wet dream to worst nightmare. I wonder how many people that started this whole thing will be indited for spying, collusion and / or obstruction of justice? Nadler should be the first in my opinion he has been screaming for months now to have proof; which honestly so has a bunch of people, but in the end the American justice system prevailed again...Amazing the length that some will go to undermine persons they dislike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vago View Post
    boy, this whole Muller thing went from some peoples wet dream to worst nightmare. I wonder how many people that started this whole thing will be indited for spying, collusion and / or obstruction of justice? Nadler should be the first in my opinion he has been screaming for months now to have proof; which honestly so has a bunch of people, but in the end the American justice system prevailed again...Amazing the length that some will go to undermine persons they dislike.

    God Bless America!
    Based on literally no evidence and just a feeling. Yeah, this should go over about as well as buttery males, pizza parlors, and birth certificates did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Based on literally no evidence and just a feeling. Yeah, this should go over about as well as buttery males, pizza parlors, and birth certificates did.
    There wasn't a special counsel and Obamas campaign was not spied on by an opposition party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Oh did Nadler get to read the Mueller report? Was there a trial that used evidence from the special counsel 8nvestiagtion that exonerated Trump and his campaign, transition team, and administration from collusion and obstruction of justice?
    There wasn't any evidence to even bring indictments. There literally was no evidence or a predicate too start this investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... the WMD argument is literally the same as the one Trump makes about Iran. If no one in his campaign collided or conspired, who is Trump saying he might pardon? Some random dudes? Have you checked if you were one of the voters that Russia stole registration records from? Because the investigation found they stole half a million...

    You can claim Trump is innocent all you like... but, white washing the investigation finding that Russia stole 500000 voter registration record, by claiming this was some conspiracy? Fucked... fucked on a major scale...

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    It’s fucking stupid, because Bush didn’t trust the U.N. or even US intelligence with his choice to go after Iraq. It’s the same shit Trump is doing with Iran, North Korea and Russia. 3 > 1... winning!
    Russia had no effect on the election. No votes were changed or manipulated in any way. The culmination of the Russian threat was facebook adds and posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    We literally have evidence, from the trumps themselves, that they colluded with russia (jr's email, and the press release sr dictated). We know manafort gave them internal polling data, from manafort's own attorney. You can keep being wrong, it's never going to make you right.
    You are a collusion truther. The problem w/ this story, like every other collusion truther talking point, is that this “Russian emissary” had zero to do with “Putin’s attack” aka allegedly hacked emails & juvenile clickbait.

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