1. #19161
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    It's hilarious! Where's your sense of humor? ROFLMAO
    So, do you think that Trump is exonerated now? Because he definitely isn't.

  2. #19162
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Gotta love the liberal media. Isnt it weird that after being shown to have not commited any crimes or conspiracy to commit a crime that the media would run with stories that say Trump isnt exonerated from obstruction. Completely ignoring the fact that there was neither intent to obstruct nor a conspiracy to obstruct. In other words. An innocent man cant knowingly obstruct an investigation into himself if there is nothing to reveal. Hard to obstruct an investigation into a crime if no crime was ever commited. And it would be stupid to charge a person for that very reason.
    Maybe you should learn to read more than the bullshit you prate about.

    Investigators paint an unflattering portrait of a president who believes the Justice Department and the FBI should answer to his orders, even when it comes to criminal investigations

    During a meeting in which the president complained about then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, Trump insisted that past attorneys general had been more obedient to their presidents, referring to the Kennedy brothers and the Obama administration.

    “You’re telling me that Bobby and Jack didn’t talk about investigations? Or Obama didn’t tell Eric Holder who to investigate?” Trump told senior White House staffers Stephen K. Bannon and Donald McGahn, according to the report.

    “Bannon recalled that the President was as mad as Bannon had ever seen him and that he screamed at McGahn about how weak Sessions was,” the report said.

    The report also recounts a remarkable moment in May 2017 when Sessions told Trump that Mueller had just been appointed special counsel. Trump slumped back in his chair, according to notes from Jody Hunt, Sessions’s then-chief of staff. “Oh my God, this is terrible. This is the end of my presidency,” Trump said. Trump further laid into Sessions for his recusal, saying Sessions had let him down.

    “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency,” Trump said, according to Hunt’s notes. “It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.”

    Mueller’s team wrote that though their investigation “did not establish that the Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities,” that assertion was informed by the fact that coordination requires more than two parties “taking actions that were informed by or responsive to the other’s actions or interests.”

    And Mueller made abundantly clear: Russia wanted to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign was willing to take it.


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    This is the creature you're defending...

  3. #19163
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    No thanks. I find the desperation and denial here to be quite scintillating.
    I only see yours. And it is quite hilarious to watch you deny reality.

  4. #19164
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Gotta love the liberal media. Isnt it weird that after being shown to have not commited any crimes or conspiracy to commit a crime that the media would run with stories that say Trump isnt exonerated from obstruction. Completely ignoring the fact that there was neither intent to obstruct nor a conspiracy to obstruct. In other words. An innocent man cant knowingly obstruct an investigation into himself if there is nothing to reveal.

    Hard to obstruct an investigation into a crime if no crime was ever commited. And it would be stupid to charge a person for that very reason.
    There was no intent to obstruct? he wanted muller fired and he wanted others fired and the reason for them to be fire lied about.....

    did you even read the same report others did??

    Also you do not need to be convicted or even charged with a crime to obstruct an investigation.

  5. #19165
    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Well they are trying. Really enjoying their conspiracy theories ITT
    You really aren't paying attention or reading it yourself are you? If you think this report exonerates Trump, then you really are fucking gullible.

  6. #19166
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Gotta love the liberal media. Isnt it weird that after being shown to have not commited any crimes or conspiracy to commit a crime that the media would run with stories that say Trump isnt exonerated from obstruction. Completely ignoring the fact that there was neither intent to obstruct nor a conspiracy to obstruct. In other words. An innocent man cant knowingly obstruct an investigation into himself if there is nothing to reveal.

    Hard to obstruct an investigation into a crime if no crime was ever commited. And it would be stupid to charge a person for that very reason.
    Trump literally ordered people to commit crimes they just didn't follow through read the report dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    And you would be defending her with "everyone does it"/"she didn't collude with them".
    Would you bet 5000 rubles on that Mister Russian? That I would in fact be doing that? You may want to look at my posting history before you just consider me a one sided partisan hack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

  8. #19168
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulla View Post
    You Democrats come to the appropriate conclusion that you can't do shit about Trump being President yet? Buckle up buckaroos!

    Some of the biggest blowhards are in here backing down now, good day for America.
    Yeah, you really didn't read any of this, did you? I see you got your information from Fox News.

  9. #19169
    Quote Originally Posted by Moralgy View Post
    My favorite part of this report is that sarah sanders admits that she just flat out lies about shit during press briefings.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/mueller-r...175925718.html

    What a fucking clown.
    I look forward to the next press briefing (if there is one) when Sanders answers a question with blatant bullshit and a journalist asks, "Sarah, how do we know you're not lying to us again?"

  10. #19170
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulla View Post
    He came in and gave a knowingly flawed summation, posing as a question. If he really wanted to ask, he wouldn't need to insert lies into his question.
    And yet, he is right. Because it is obvious you aren't reading it, and getting your shitty information from Fox News.

  11. #19171
    For the people who are parroting the spin that "Its not obstruction, just attempted obstruction!"

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1505


    Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or

    Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

    Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
    Obstruction is obstruction whether they were successful or not.
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  12. #19172
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Gotta love the liberal media. Isnt it weird that after being shown to have not commited any crimes or conspiracy to commit a crime that the media would run with stories that say Trump isnt exonerated from obstruction. Completely ignoring the fact that there was neither intent to obstruct nor a conspiracy to obstruct. In other words. An innocent man cant knowingly obstruct an investigation into himself if there is nothing to reveal.

    Hard to obstruct an investigation into a crime if no crime was ever commited. And it would be stupid to charge a person for that very reason.
    Yeah, another one that hasn't read anything of the report, and believed the shitstain Barr.

  13. #19173
    A lot of right wing/centrist poster here need to get off the plantation. If you run fast enough they won't catch. Having a different opinion or being open to new ideas isn't wrong think btw.
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  14. #19174
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Hard to obstruct an investigation into a crime if no crime was ever commited. And it would be stupid to charge a person for that very reason.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-stewart_03-05

    Martha Stewart disagrees. The underlying charges of insider trading were dropped, but she was still found guilty of obstruction of justice (and related charges) related to the investigation into said insider trading.

    The legal minds over at wherever y'all are getting this information are fucking garbage, dude.

  15. #19175
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-stewart_03-05

    Martha Stewart disagrees. The underlying charges of insider trading were dropped, but she was still found guilty of obstruction of justice (and related charges) related to the investigation into said insider trading.

    The legal minds over at wherever y'all are getting this information are fucking garbage, dude.
    Obviously the only place that matters, I mean, everyone else is lying, EXCEPT Trump. /S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Gotta love the liberal media. Isnt it weird that after being shown to have not commited any crimes or conspiracy to commit a crime that the media would run with stories that say Trump isnt exonerated from obstruction. Completely ignoring the fact that there was neither intent to obstruct nor a conspiracy to obstruct. In other words. An innocent man cant knowingly obstruct an investigation into himself if there is nothing to reveal.

    Hard to obstruct an investigation into a crime if no crime was ever commited. And it would be stupid to charge a person for that very reason.
    I love that you think no crime was committed, when even Barr one might have occured.

  17. #19177
    Jesus, some of you have been posting in this thread for hours.

    Go ahead and take a few more hits from the collusion crackpipe and then commit yourself to recovering. You'll feel a lot better for it.

  18. #19178
    People saying that Democrats/Congress shouldn't bother impeaching Trump:

    That basically means Donald Trump gets off scott free with all he did, and the president is above the law. That is the standard we set for the US going forward. Mueller specifically says that it's up to Congress now to decide what to do about his findings, as the DoJ cannot do anything towards a sitting a president.

    Not impeaching Trump over what he's done as stated in the Mueller report, would be like nothing having happened to Nixon about Watergate. Our country would look a lot different nowadays if that had been the case, and it would be a lot worse. Congress HAS to act on this or we are all fucked going forward.

    Call on Congress for impeachment or nothing will come of this and Trump completely walks.
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  19. #19179
    Quote Originally Posted by Methodd View Post
    Jesus, some of you have been posting in this thread for hours.

    Go ahead and take a few more hits from the collusion crackpipe and then commit yourself to recovering. You'll feel a lot better for it.
    Someone hasn't been reading the report. Did Fox News tell you what to think?

  20. #19180
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Someone hasn't been reading the report. Did Fox News tell you what to think?
    What the fuck is this shit. I don't watch Fox News. Get a hold of yourself.

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