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    Mega-Thread: Mueller investigation

    Probably not an accident that the scoop was given to CNN

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politi...ion/index.html

    A federal grand jury in Washington, DC, on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter.

    The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.

    A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment.

    Mueller was appointed in May to lead the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    Under the regulations governing special counsel investigations, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has oversight over the Russia investigation, would have been made aware of any charges before they were taken before the grand jury for approval, according to people familiar with the matter.

    On Friday, top lawyers who are helping to lead the Mueller probe, including veteran prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, were seen entering the court room at the DC federal court where the grand jury meets to hear testimony in the Russia investigation.

    Reporters present saw a flurry of activity at the grand jury room, but officials made no announcements.

    Shortly after President Donald Trump abruptly fired then-FBI Director James Comey, Rosenstein appointed Mueller as special counsel. Mueller took the reins of a federal investigation that Comey first opened in July 2016 in the middle of the presidential campaign.

    Mueller is authorized to investigate "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation," according to Rosenstein's order.

    The special counsel's investigation has focused on potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, as well as obstruction of justice by the President, who might have tried to impede the investigation. CNN reported that investigators are scrutinizing Trump and his associates' financial ties to Russia.

    Mueller's team has also examined foreign lobbying conducted by former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, and others. His team has issued subpoenas for documents and testimony to a handful of figures, including some people close to Manafort, and others involved in the Trump Tower meeting between Russians and campaign officials.

    Last year, the Comey-led investigation secured approval from the secret court that oversees the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to monitor the communications of Manafort, as well as former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as part of the investigation into Russian meddling.

    In addition to Mueller's probe, three committees on Capitol Hill are conducting their own investigations.

    CNN's Marshall Cohen, Mary Kay Mallonee and Laura Robinson contributed to this report.

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    First charges filed in special counsel Mueller's Russia probe: report

    GOP House member calls on Mueller to resign

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/34...ller-to-resign

    Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) is calling on Robert Mueller, special counsel for the Justice Department's Russia investigation, to resign.

    Franks, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, claims Mueller is violating a law governing the special counsel that prohibits him from serving if he has a “conflict of interest,” which includes “a personal relationship with any person substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution.”
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    First Charges Filed in Mueller's Investigation

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politi...ion/index.html

    Washington (CNN)A federal grand jury in Washington, DC, on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter.

    The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.
    A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment.
    Mueller was appointed in May to lead the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
    Under the regulations governing special counsel investigations, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has oversight over the Russia investigation, would have been made aware of any charges before they were taken before the grand jury for approval, according to people familiar with the matter.
    Bets on who it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurinaux View Post
    For those of you who can't read and don't understand what this means:

    A judge has approved charges that someone committed a crime as a result of Mueller's investigation. We don't know who yet, but someone.
    ... and it might go down Monday! Monday! Moday! At Tacoma dome!!
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    You suck times 2

    (you got beat to it by 2 people)
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    Here we go boys.

    So who are the bets on? Small fry? Big name?

    Aside from the possibility of being some staffer, wonder if these are the formal charges against Manafort. We already know he's fucked. He knows he's fucked. The media has made it clear it's fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    Here we go boys.

    So who are the bets on? Small fry? Big name?

    Aside from the possibility of being some staffer, wonder if these are the formal charges against Manafort. We already know he's fucked. He knows he's fucked. The media has made it clear it's fucked.
    Yeah, it’s probably Manafort...
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    But muh #uraniumone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, it’s probably Manafort...
    What I'm leaning towards but always could be given a curveball.

    Going to be a fun ride if so. Manafort is basically the catalyst and central link between everything going on, both at a federal and state level. Him being arrested means public squeal time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etselion View Post
    But muh #uraniumone
    That’s the thing... guess why 2 stories, the Fusion GPS from last October and Uranium from 2015, returned to the news? We now have an answer...
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    Ten dollars on Manafort.

    Five dollars if it's Flynn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s the thing... guess why 2 stories, the Fusion GPS from last October and Uranium from 2015, returned to the news? We now have an answer...
    Expecting to see a shit load of new Mueller smear articles and talking points over the next few days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Ten dollars on Manafort.

    Five dollars if it's Flynn.
    How unfortunate for senator Trent Franks... the day he demands Mueller resign, we get news of charges.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Etselion View Post
    That’s why he started talking about Uranium and asking for an investigation. His reaction, at least means it’s someone, that deserves Trump going as far as to ask for an investigation into Uranium, to try and distract from it. I still think it’s Manafort, but by the way Fox and Trump been acting this week... it could be bigger...

    If he starts a war with NK over the weekend, we’ll know it’s Don jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    Expecting to see a shit load of new Mueller smear articles and talking points over the next few days.
    That’s exactly what I replaced my 1 min late thread on this report. A republican is already asking for him to resign... fox ran the story about an hour before this broke...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s the thing... guess why 2 stories, the Fusion GPS from last October and Uranium from 2015, returned to the news? We now have an answer...
    That's the first thing that popped in my head. "Wow, the explosive resurgence of all the spin patrol suddenly makes sense now."

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    Manafort or Flynn as well as some low level lackeys if I had to put a bet on who it will be.

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    Can't wait to see the marching orders on the right for what talking points to defend this one.

    Going to be really tough to claim nothingburger and a waste of time if charges are actually filed.

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