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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrynn View Post
    Why don't you read for yourself and then repeat that.

    The FBI had multiple conversations about charging Clinton and the DOJ told them to stand down. Period. You said it was a conspiracy that was being pushed after years of investigation. It's not. They know she did it, but were told not to charge her with gross negligence.

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    Then why don’t you link the official FBI statement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... why did you need a quote from Lisa Page?

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...-e-mail-system



    We have the official letter explaining why FBI didn’t recommend charges.
    Because the letter from the FBI is in confliction with her testimony smart person.

    As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.
    Mr. Ratcliffe: Okay. So let me if I can, I know I’m testing your memory, but when you say advice you got from the Department [of Justice], you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: “You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to.”

    Ms. Page: That’s correct
    So is the statement that Page committed perjury and then I'd ask why you believe this to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrynn View Post
    Why don't you read for yourself and then repeat that.

    The FBI had multiple conversations about charging Clinton and the DOJ told them to stand down. Period. You said it was a conspiracy that was being pushed after years of investigation. It's not. They know she did it, but were told not to charge her with gross negligence.

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    them having conversations means nothing and doesn't imply intent. they had conversations to secretly tape trump. whoopie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Then why don’t you link the official FBI statement?
    You did a fine job pulling up the one line I needed. So thank you for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    them having conversations means nothing and doesn't imply intent. they had conversations to secretly tape trump. whoopie
    Oh hush. Feyla just crippled that by providing the FBI statement which is in conflict with Page's testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Reading that transcript is fascinating if it's accurate. At one point they begin discussing events that happened in 2616...
    Does everyone have the memory of a gnat? FBI... as in Comey... released an official letter explaining why charges were not recommended. It’s even hosted on the FBI site... we knew this in 2016... this is just trying to make it seem like a conspiracy. As if the official reason FBI didn’t recommend charges, isn’t public knowledge. Everything has to be a conspiracy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Does everyone have the memory of a gnat? FBI... as in Comey... released an official letter explaining why charges were not recommended. It’s even hosted on the FBI site... we knew this in 2016... this is just trying to make it seem like a conspiracy. As if the official reason FBI didn’t recommend charges, isn’t public knowledge. Everything has to be a conspiracy...
    And Lisa Page just gave congressional testimony that shreds the FBI letter's explanation.

    As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.
    Mr. Ratcliffe: Okay. So let me if I can, I know I’m testing your memory, but when you say advice you got from the Department [of Justice], you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: “You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to.”

    Ms. Page: That’s correct
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    Imagine having your head so far up your ass that the Clinton emails seem remotely relevant given the current circumstances.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrynn View Post
    Jeff Session investigated Hillary again and found nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Imagine having your head so far up your ass that the Clinton emails seem remotely relevant given the current circumstances.
    Trump's head is so far up his own ass that he's inside out. Or an ouroboros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrynn View Post
    You did a fine job pulling up the one line I needed. So thank you for that.

    Oh hush. Feyla just crippled that by providing the FBI statement which is in conflict with Page's testimony.
    Yeah, I’m not a conspiracy theorist nor do I have the memory of a gnat. The FBI didn’t recommend charges, it was specifically released. There is no conspiracy:

    Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

    In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.
    Since you agreed with that statement I highlighted for you. How about this part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspark View Post
    Trump's head is so far up his own ass that he's inside out. Or an ouroboros.
    Truth be told, it’s immaterial. What Trump has done in office more than merits life in prison; the Mueller investigation is a question of whether or not the election has any legitimacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrynn View Post
    And Lisa Page just gave congressional testimony that shreds the FBI letter's explanation.

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    What? Comey’s letter is not recommending charges. Page said that FBI told her they were not going to recommend charges. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Imagine having your head so far up your ass that the Clinton emails seem remotely relevant given the current circumstances.
    They're not relevant, I only brought them up to prove how stupid the assertion that "Trump hasn't been indicted today, which proves he's gonna be re-elected."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, I’m not a conspiracy theorist nor do I have the memory of a gnat. The FBI didn’t recommend charges, it was specifically released. There is no conspiracy:



    Since you agreed with that statement I highlighted for you. How about this part?
    Hillary was, at worst, negligent. But even the FBI didn't think she was willfully negligent to the degree that criminal charges were recommended.

    As for myself, I doubt that Hillary even knows what an email server is. I doubt there are many politicians that have any idea. They just tell their tech people "make it so I can send and receive email".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, I’m not a conspiracy theorist nor do I have the memory of a gnat. The FBI didn’t recommend charges, it was specifically released. There is no conspiracy:



    Since you agreed with that statement I highlighted for you. How about this part?
    I don't need to. And clearly you have the memory of a gnat.

    Answer me - Did Lisa Page commit perjury yes or no? The question she was asked was very clear and specific and so was her answer. Why does it not match up to any of the crap you keep sending my way?

    If the FBI says it was their decision and not the DOJ and Lisa Page steps up and says "No, actually"

    You don't get to pick and choose which version of events you want to believe. Neither do I. So is it more likely someone did a perjury and implicate the DOJ or....???

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    Ok here is an offer, trumpkins we will drag hillary into the center of dc and tar and feather her, you may all they give her one kick in the butt each. In payment for this you must all admit that trump is indeed and obvious criminal and conman.

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    Neither side will accept the results of the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Imagine having your head so far up your ass that the Clinton emails seem remotely relevant given the current circumstances.
    It is relevant... look at this bullshit. The FBI released an official letter explaining why they are not recommending charges against Clinton. Page states FBI told her they were not going to recommend charges. This is a conspiracy to some people... to some people, that’s inconsistent... 33%...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canpinter View Post
    Ok here is an offer, trumpkins we will drag hillary into the center of dc and tar and feather her, you may all they give her one kick in the butt each. In payment for this you must all admit that trump is indeed and obvious criminal and conman.
    Read through my post history and call me a Trumpster again

    Also it was @beanman12345 that brought up Clinton, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It is relevant... look at this bullshit. The FBI released an official letter explaining why they are not recommending charges against Clinton. Page states FBI told her they were not going to recommend charges. This is a conspiracy to some people... to some people, that’s inconsistent... 33%...
    No, no, no.

    Page says the DOJ told them not to charge Clinton. The FBI says it was their decision, not the DOJ

    Who is lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrynn View Post
    I don't need to. And clearly you have the memory of a gnat.

    Answer me - Did Lisa Page commit perjury yes or no? The question she was asked was very clear and specific and so was her answer. Why does it not match up to any of the crap you keep sending my way?

    If the FBI says it was their decision and not the DOJ and Lisa Page steps up and says "No, actually"

    You don't get to pick and choose which version of events you want to believe. Neither do I. So is it more likely someone did a perjury and implicate the DOJ or....???
    Why are you talking about the Clintons? at least try to maintain the illusion of "centrist".

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