Mass shooting at church in Texas, shooter dead, multiple victims

[Ghostpanther]

Put that all in perspective..
1. He said that to other people in the hospital.
That doesn't mean that it was true. He could have made it up. That's to be considered.

2. He escaped in 2012... So that's 5 years in the past. Which raises a few questions:
A) What's the medical diagnosis for his hospital stay? That can be a lot of things.
B) Why has he not been arrested in the meantime and brought back to such facility? As said.. 5 years.. a long time.
C) What happened in those 5 years?


On a second note... I am glad they pray all the grieving away... as usual.
Such incidents and the actions of some politicians in the aftermath, I can completely understand how some people get radicalized.
It's mind numbing to see assholes like Pence, who are directly responsible for these atrocities, play the God card to pretend how everything gets better, when in fact it doesn't.

Here's some "crazy" idea...
We're holding manufacturers responsible if they sell us defective, or harmful products. They're getting slammed with lawsuits civil and sometimes even criminal..
Now, first of all, this should get extended onto the weapon manufacturers, but.. also onto the lawmakers.
Imagine if those assclowns could be held directly responsible due to their negligence, I bet ya the gun problems would be fixed in no time.
To save their own ass, they'd pass legislation in a matter of days.

That is totally false. You sound like someone who just hates people of a certain faith.

You can not sue a company successfully if you use a product carelessly for a intention it was not meant for, or unlawfully and where you have ignored the warning labels. You can if the manufacturer has failed to provide reasonable accidental protection for their product such as child proof caps and warnings, etc. Firearm safety improvements have been done and is a continuing process. But if some dumbass does not store their weapon securely and and a child gets it uses one to harm someone, it is not the firearm maker's fault. :P

But if a firearm is defective and injuries the shooter or a bystander, then guess what, you can sue them successfully. :P

[Allybeboba]

That is totally false. You sound like someone who just hates people of a certain faith.

You can not sue a company successfully if you use a product carelessly for a intention it was not meant for, or unlawfully and where you have ignored the warning labels. You can if the manufacturer has failed to provide reasonable accidental protection for their product such as child proof caps and warnings, etc. Firearm safety improvements have been done and is a continuing process. But if some dumbass does not store their weapon securely and and a child gets it uses one to harm someone, it is not the firearm maker's fault. :P

But if a firearm is defective and injuries the shooter or a bystander, then guess what, you can sue them successfully. :P

Probably just a hater in general my friend.

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I am sick of your racist post and the mods not doing anything about it. You're not worth replying too you racist POS.


[Infracted]

It’s okay. We know there are some members on here that are immune. It is something we all just have to put with. For now...
Their time is a coming though.

[Svifnymr]

2. He escaped in 2012... So that's 5 years in the past. Which raises a few questions:
A) What's the medical diagnosis for his hospital stay? That can be a lot of things.
B) Why has he not been arrested in the meantime and brought back to such facility? As said.. 5 years.. a long time.
C) What happened in those 5 years?

Mental hospital in Early 2012
Sentenced late 2012 to a year.
Discharged in 2014
Bought a gun each year from 2014 to 2017, four total.
At some point I guess he remarried? Since the wife he beat to and went to jail over was in 2012-14 and divorced him. New wife is the one whose family went to this church.

Depending on the mental determinations it may have barred him from a gun, but there's a lot of such records that won't be uploaded to the database due to patient confidentiality.

We're holding manufacturers responsible if they sell us defective, or harmful products. They're getting slammed with lawsuits civil and sometimes even criminal..

Holding any business liable for the criminal misuse of their product is a door that leads to a lot of trouble.

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You are welcome to show us proof if you think it is that much lower. It may very well be.
All indications really show it should be higher since in most cases ~1/2 of a country’s populations are male. And that would mean 1/2 of their healthy adult population would be constripted into the military.

Some folks might be disqualified, plus children and perhaps the elderly. They also have an option to do community service or something I think? (Maybe that's Israel, or both.) That's assuming that the 24% is actually including military machineguns. I don't think any of the USA figures include military guns...

[Laerrus]

Just found out that the hero that stopped the shooter, is the brother of an old friend of my Wife and I...

This really hit close to home.

If any of you from the media happen to read this, please leave Mr. Willeford alone and stop harassing him. Give the man some time to deal with this on his own terms.

[Daelak]

Just found out that the hero that stopped the shooter, is the brother of an old friend of my Wife and I...

This really hit close to home.

If any of you from the media happen to read this, please leave Mr. Willeford alone and stop harassing him. Give the man some time to deal with this on his own terms.

I am the media, and because you said this I will step up my vicious lame stream media attacks. Media out.

[Allybeboba]

Mental hospital in Early 2012
Sentenced late 2012 to a year.
Discharged in 2014
Bought a gun each year from 2014 to 2017, four total.
At some point I guess he remarried? Since the wife he beat to and went to jail over was in 2012-14 and divorced him. New wife is the one whose family went to this church.

Depending on the mental determinations it may have barred him from a gun, but there's a lot of such records that won't be uploaded to the database due to patient confidentiality.



Holding any business liable for the criminal misuse of their product is a door that leads to a lot of trouble.

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Some folks might be disqualified, plus children and perhaps the elderly. They also have an option to do community service or something I think? (Maybe that's Israel, or both.) That's assuming that the 24% is actually including military machineguns. I don't think any of the USA figures include military guns...

Once a person in Switzerland serves and becomes civilian their firearm is mechanical alterted by the government so as it is not automatic any more. Officers are allowed to take their side arms.

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Just found out that the hero that stopped the shooter, is the brother of an old friend of my Wife and I...

This really hit close to home.

If any of you from the media happen to read this, please leave Mr. Willeford alone and stop harassing him. Give the man some time to deal with this on his own terms.

Making the decision to shoot someone is a serious decision. A life altering decision no matter the situation. On this you can trust me.

[Travis B]

I am sick of your racist post and the mods not doing anything about it. You're not worth replying too you racist POS.

1. His post wasn't racist. Stop seeing racism in everything.

2. You did in fact reply to him, so apparently he was worth replying to.

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Making the decision to shoot someone is a serious decision. A life altering decision no matter the situation. On this you can trust me.

My friend, you speak as if you have shot someone before.

[Svifnymr]

Once a person in Switzerland serves and becomes civilian their firearm is mechanical alterted by the government so as it is not automatic any more. Officers are allowed to take their side arms.

Yes, but is it counted in whatever count is done for the survey info used to populate wiki charts on firearm ownership?