"We want Vanilla" "No wait we want a FIXED Vanilla!"

[Icechaosss]

I think this is what Blizzard was most afraid of when people were crying for legacy servers.

To the people who want the same experience, this post isn't aimed at you. It's more aimed at the 10+ threads I've seen for the day begging for changes to classes, "QOL" changes, questing changes, XP changes etc.

I'm not here to say be "grateful" that you're getting Vanilla servers, in fact I'm happy for you guys. During this entire campaign, I've been curious as to how the "good ole days" were since I wasn't exactly old enough to enjoy Vanilla properly. I'm actually excited to try it. That being said, I know I'm not gonna stick to it and spend that much time on it. But I'll gladly try it out.

But why ask for changes now? Was it such a dream for Vanilla servers that you guys didn't expect Blizzard to do it, and now you want a "Fixed Vanilla?"
If this experience really is changed can it even be considered Vanilla? I'm genuinely curious about this, because I feel like the fight before was "Retail vs Classic" and this is going to devolve into "Vanilla w/changes vs. Vanilla without changes"

[Nemah]

It's all very typical.

[toxicrusader]

The thing is, a fixed Vanilla is not Vanilla.

Take it or leave it.

[Deleted]

No. This is still the retail ppl vs classic ppl. The idea behind this is still the same. Arguments have just changed

[Alienshroom]

The people asking for changes usually never played vanilla that or had little success in it. They have no interest in preserving the game nor making this a success.

[Icechaosss]

The people asking for changes usually never played vanilla that or had little success in it. They have no interest in preserving the game nor making this a success.

I suppose this doesn't make sense to me. If you didn't play Vanilla, why would you want to change it when the campaign was for "Authenticity?"

[Razorice]

I really hope they don't cave in and give the "Vanilla crowd" that unpolished, buggy Vanilla.
So they can play until level 10 and rage on how hard and expensive shit is.
I will really enjoy feasting on their tears.
Now, I'm not saying everyone is a cry-baby and I'm sure a good amount of people just want the original WoW, but most people that jumped the band-wagon didn't play Vanilla and now that the hype is going down they are realizing that the game won't be for them.

I suppose this doesn't make sense to me. If you didn't play Vanilla, why would you want to change it when the campaign was for "Authenticity?"

Because they want to be edgy and say they play Vanilla and raid on it. They also want to critique "canon" WoW players how shit they are because "Hurr u dnt play vanillah"

[Fixxit the Gnome]

I'm on board if they capture the essence of vanilla. Going back to what it used to be is probably not as fun as I'd like it to be. All I really want is the old Teldrassil and Ashenvale back.

And a warrior where I need to level up my weapon skills.

[reemi]

I agree,

I hope Blizzard will release Vanilla only, without any modification to the code.

If Blizzard change 1 single thing, I'm sorry but you arent playing Vanilla.

[Queen of Hamsters]

The thing is, now there's 3 communities rather than 2. It used to be Private Legacy vs Retail.
Now? It'll be purists from Private, not-so-purists from Retail/whom currently do not play and then the Live players (since Official Classic servers, will be retail too).

The question is, will the purists outnumber those wanting Classic without the warts...?
I think they should release it as was at the end patch. No QOL-features, no class balancing, no tweaks to boss mechanics etc etc.

[Ahlae]

Except the people that never played Vanilla are the ones asking for all these things, thanks.

[Icechaosss]

I agree,

I hope Blizzard will release Vanilla only, without any modification to the code.

If Blizzard change 1 single thing, I'm sorry but you arent playing Vanilla.

So if you don't mind me asking, what patch would they start it at? The last patch or the first patch? Last patch but raids locked? First patch and emulate the old days to a T?

[Deleted]

I think the biggest concern is towards useless classspeccs. F.E: Warrior was the only Class capable of Tanking 40man Raids. All "hybrid" classes pretty much had to heal to be some kind of effective. Every Alliance Priest will be Dwarf because of Fear Ward etc ...

Especially the tanking issue is a thing i wish to be fixed.

[Azadina]

So if you don't mind me asking, what patch would they start it at? The last patch or the first patch? Last patch but raids locked? First patch and emulate the old days to a T?

From 1.0 to 1.12 in order.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Except the people that never played Vanilla are the ones asking for all these things, thanks.

Not true.

Plenty of people whom playerd Vanilla are aware of what it was, and want changes as a result.
And never having played Vanilla doesn't exactly render arguments irrelevant, considering just how many of the purists never played Vanilla when it was current.

[Deleted]

The thing is, now there's 3 communities rather than 2. It used to be Private Legacy vs Retail.
Now? It'll be purists from Private, not-so-purists from Retail/whom currently do not play and then the Live players (since Official Classic servers, will be retail too).

The question is, will the purists outnumber those wanting Classic without the warts...?
I think they should release it as was at the end patch. No QOL-features, no class balancing, no tweaks to boss mechanics etc etc.

I'd say purge the whole lot and just be done with the whole franchise.

[Alienshroom]

I really hope they don't cave in and give the "Vanilla crowd" that unpolished, buggy Vanilla.
So they can play until level 10 and rage on how hard and expensive shit is.
I will really enjoy feasting on their tears.
Now, I'm not saying everyone is a cry-baby and I'm sure a good amount of people just want the original WoW, but most people that jumped the band-wagon didn't play Vanilla and now that the hype is going down they are realizing that the game won't be for them.



Because they want to be edgy and say they play Vanilla and raid on it. They also want to critique "canon" WoW players how shit they are because "Hurr u dnt play vanillah"

People seem to forget this entire movement got started by the immense amount of people playing vanilla private servers. Your clueless

[Avar ize]

Played in vanilla, It was kinda meh.. Good for its time i guess
Gonna try out the classic servers when they launch, Really indifferent to if they make any changes or not

[Queen of Hamsters]

I'd say purge the whole lot and just be done with the whole franchise.

Meh, once the servers are released, it'll probably calm down a fair bit.

[CreatureLives]

I don't want any changes other than maybe group finder (for dungeons only) and quest finder. Classes, difficulty, xp, riding, everything else can be the same as it was back in the day.

There was so many times back then when you had no idea where the fuck to even go for your quests. Sometimes you could figure it out by reading but sometimes you couldn't. And I really don't want to go back to standing outside a dungeon for 4 hours trying to get a group together only to wipe on the trash and have people leave and then have to repeat it all again.

I think these changes would be relatively small and would just make the experience more enjoyable.

For me I just want to go back to Vanilla so I can play through the old world. I miss the way the zones used to look, i miss dying while questing, i miss the grind, i miss when every bit of gold you had mattered. What I don't miss was wasting time doing nothing while i ran around in circles trying to find out where my quest was or standing outside of dungeons for hours.