What would a Completely Sexually Liberated Society be Like?

[brimdog]

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[Calfredd]

You are speaking as if words like responsibility and accountability do not exist.
Who takes responsibility for ramifications of abuse and neglect? Do those concepts not exist? If so, how?
Who holds themselves accountable for the outcomes of their actions? How have you solved disease and pregnancy?


Let me ask this: What is the reason for sex?
is it for procreation, or for stimulation, or for emotional connection? maybe it is all or none?
Maybe its no different from being hungry?
From what I read though, it seems like you just want to have sex with another person at your leisure and whim. Sex on demand.

As it stands now there are a certain amount of the population that are able to have sex on demand and so they become porn stars for a living. Those people, right now, have sex whenever and wherever, and with whoever, and it is OK with everyone involved.

I would strongly encourage you to research that industry to gain more insight as to an answer to your question.

What's odd is a sexually liberated society wouldn't even be a pedo orgy paradise with no rules and regulations so not sure why he even described it as such.

[Puupi]

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What is that?

[Toogoodman]

I tweaked your post a bit for accuracy.

Valid, thank you

[Zatachi]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo



Not to bad...i guess unless you like wars and such.

[Player Twelve]

It would be a nightmare as a parent.
I'm not one but I can only imagine if I had a preteen/teen 12-14 year old daughter, I would probably end up killing someone.

Yeah man, sex as a teenager is awful, it ruins your life.

[Martymark]

Many jungle and south seas tribes are 100% sexually liberated. Most western cultures would not be comfortable with the amount of incest and sex with children that goes on. Also, if it happened to our current world, everyone would go blind and insane due to incurable STDs.

[Toogoodman]

Yeah man, sex as a teenager is awful, it ruins your life.

Sex as a teenager with other teenagers isnt so bad, its when a 12-14 year old girl has sex with a 45 year old we have some problems.

[Puupi]

Sex as a teenager with other teenagers isnt so bad, its when a 12-14 year old girl has sex with a 45 year old we have some problems.

Which I find extremely hypocritical.

[Mihalik]

Ancient Greece or Rome.

I am really curious where the "sexually liberated ancient world" myth comes from.

Both Romans and Greeks were highly patriarchal. Greeks more than the Romans.

Women had relatively few rights and little in the way of sexual autonomy.

Prostitution was common place as was likely the sexual abuse of slaves but while one isn't terribly different from our times the other was mostly a practice only those of the patrician class who could afford slaves would engage in. (The average Roman wasn't a slave owner.)

Greeks were even more stuck up and practiced a fairly rigid gender segregation. (Worth noting that the Spartan practice of women exercising and doing sports was extremely unusual both for the Greeks and the Romans).

Homosexuality was sorta okay for Romans as long as you weren't perceived as a "bottom" and thus lacking masculinity.

How common homosexuality was among the Greeks or how common was the practice of pederastry is also debatable as many contemporary sources strictly condemned sexual relations between men, and they mostly spoke about the virtues of a philosophical love of sorts, thus it's very likely we are massively exaggerating how common the practice was.

Especially when taking into account that both practices were mostly associated with the land owning gentry.

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Which I find extremely hypocritical.

Why? Teenagers are usually of a similar development and experience level. Thus it is unlikely to have significant power differences involved.

The likelihood of manipulation and even abuse increases with the age gap.

There's a point where someone is old enough that society can no longer coddle them and they have to live with the consequences of their choices, but that is not the age of 12 or 14.

[Toogoodman]

Which I find extremely hypocritical.

How so? Do you think a 14 and a 15 year old having sexual relations is the same a 12 year old and a 45 year old? When i hooked up with girls in middle school, who were also in middle school it was chill. it wouldnt have been so cool if someones father showed up trying to do the same.

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Why? Teenagers are usually of a similar development and experience level. Thus it is unlikely to have significant power differences involved.

The likelihood of manipulation and even abuse increases with the age gap.

There's a point where someone is old enough that society can no longer coddle them and they have to live with the consequences of their choices, but that is not the age of 12 or 14.

Honestly, a lot of the people in these threads are just trying to justify their own pedophilia thoughts, so one day, they too can maybe fuck a little kid.

You hit the nail on the head though, someone who is 12-14 in relations with another person of the same age, is fairly normal. Both parties are of the same developmental stages and no one is really in a power position. If everything between the two is consensual, its all good. However, when people are much older, they are able to highly manipulate younger people into doing what they ask, which is a big problem.

[Everwake]

So basically today's society, but with incest and child sex allowed? Probably not an improvement. Sounds like a child trafficking nightmare where pimps force children to consent to sex.

[nanook12]

I guess I just picture it differently than everyone else. I kinda view it as a utopia in that no one is forced, abused, or coerced into doing something that they do not want to do. Similar to a nudist society where everyone is kind and respect one another, but sex instead.

I tend to think of it as a society where technology has completely eliminated STD's and unwanted pregnancies. In such a society it may be totally normal to walk up to a random person and politely ask if they want to have sex right there on the spot, if he or she refuses, then that is perfectly okay and each person still has mutual respect for one another. Also in such a society, all jealously would be gone. People could have as many sexual partners as they want without worry of their partner(s) getting upset.

And finally, in such a society if a sibling wanted to have sex with another sibling or teenager wanted t have sex with an adult, then they make their decisions completely independently without force, abuse, coercion , or power dynamics. If a sibling or child wants to engage in sexual activity with family member or adult and they make the decision on their own behalf, then okay. And if they decide not to, then that is perfectly fine too and no respect is lost.

Obviously, this is massively idealistic and maybe even impossible because of negative sides of human nature, but I am just hypothesizing of an ideal heaven of a society.

[derpkitteh]

Obviously, this is massively idealistic and maybe even impossible because of negative sides of human nature, but I am just hypothesizing of an ideal heaven of a society.

children having sex is not a fucking ideal situation.

[Crissi]

This is not an appropriate thread, given you started off with disregarding age. We are not justifying pedophilia here.

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