New build opinions

[Deleted]

Hey everyone,

Im finally building a new computer after 7 years.
I just wanted your guys opinions about it and maybe points to improve.

CPU: Intel® Core i7-8700K,
CPU cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4-3200
Storage:Samsung 850 Pro, 256 GB SSD or Samsung 960 EVO, 250 GB SSD + WD Black, 1 TB
Video Card: ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Advanced
Case: Fractal Design Define C TG
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650W

Thanks for the help

[Denpepe]

Hard to make a real judgement withour knowing what it will be used for and what screen you have but it's looking solid, should run most games more then fine.

[Miyagie]

Hey everyone,

Im finally building a new computer after 7 years.
I just wanted your guys opinions about it and maybe points to improve.

CPU: Intel® Core i7-8700K,
CPU cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4-3200
Storage:Samsung 850 Pro, 256 GB SSD or Samsung 960 EVO, 250 GB SSD + WD Black, 1 TB
Video Card: ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Advanced
Case: Fractal Design Define C TG
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650W

Thanks for the help

I would get a 512GB 850 Pro and go for a GTX 1080 instead of a 1070 Ti.
Maybe take a look at the new Be Quiet! Dark Base 700

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,9.html

looks dope.

[Thunderball]

Dont go air with a 8700K unless you're delidding it.

[MrPaladinGuy]

Dont go air with a 8700K unless you're delidding it.

It's adequate, but if he plans for 5GHz with HT enabled... then that's a different story and also depends on how much voltage it takes to get there. If for whatever reason he chose to use MCE and/or an OC profile provided by the mobo it's definitely not adequate due to the higher voltage it would assign.

[Deleted]

Ty guys for the feedback so i changed some stuff around :

CPU: Intel® Core i7-8700K,
CPU cooler: NZXT Kraken X62
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4-3200
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro, 500 GB SSD
Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Strix Gaming
Case: NZXT S340 elite
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650W

change case since i dont think x62 will fit in a fractal define c tg

so what about this?

[Thunderball]

It's adequate, but if he plans for 5GHz with HT enabled... then that's a different story and also depends on how much voltage it takes to get there. If for whatever reason he chose to use MCE and/or an OC profile provided by the mobo it's definitely not adequate due to the higher voltage it would assign.

I honestly dont see any point in buying a 8700K for gaming if you are not going for 5 GHz (especially if you're going with a highend motherboard, like it is in this case).

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Ty guys for the feedback so i changed some stuff around :

CPU: Intel® Core i7-8700K,
CPU cooler: NZXT Kraken X62
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4-3200
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro, 500 GB SSD
Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Strix Gaming
Case: NZXT S340 elite
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650W

change case since i dont think x62 will fit in a fractal define c tg

so what about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($414.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: EVGA - CLC 240 74.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($259.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($499.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1785.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-16 07:06 EST-0500

This is what I'd go with.

[Lathais]

I would get a 512GB 850 Pro and go for a GTX 1080 instead of a 1070 Ti.
Maybe take a look at the new Be Quiet! Dark Base 700

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,9.html

looks dope.

I have to question the 1080 over the 1070ti. Yeah, the 1070ti has slightly less performance, but it costs a good bit less. You also have the issue that the third party manufacturers are not allowed to OC the 1070ti, but it can be OCed by the consumer. If you are willing to OC it yourself, the 1070ti is the better value. You could get slightly more performance out of a 1080, but IMO it is not worth the increased price.

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Dont go air with a 8700K unless you're delidding it.

That really depends on the water cooler. If an AIO, the NH-D15 matches up to the best of the AIOs, unless you are looking at the kraken. Even then, it's not very far behind at all. Now if you are talking custom loop, that's an entirely different matter.

[Miyagie]

I have to question the 1080 over the 1070ti. Yeah, the 1070ti has slightly less performance, but it costs a good bit less. You also have the issue that the third party manufacturers are not allowed to OC the 1070ti, but it can be OCed by the consumer. If you are willing to OC it yourself, the 1070ti is the better value. You could get slightly more performance out of a 1080, but IMO it is not worth the increased price.

Price difference is most time 20-50€ here and you get a version of destiny 2 and Assassins Creed with the 1080 that you can easy sell for 60€ so in the end i would pay less for the 1080 or save money on 2 games if i wanted to buy them anyway.

[Spaze]

Price difference is most time 20-50€ here and you get a version of destiny 2 and Assassins Creed with the 1080 that you can easy sell for 60€ so in the end i would pay less for the 1080 or save money on 2 games if i wanted to buy them anyway.

I'm building a new computer as well and came to the same result the 1080 is if you listen to benchmarks ~12% better than the 1070ti and the extra 50€ shouldnt be a problem when you consider to buy a 450€+ graphicscard

[Thunderball]

I'm building a new computer as well and came to the same result the 1080 is if you listen to benchmarks ~12% better than the 1070ti and the extra 50€ shouldnt be a problem when you consider to buy a 450€+ graphicscard

12% is the stock difference. OC'd difference is much smaller.

[Lathais]

I'm building a new computer as well and came to the same result the 1080 is if you listen to benchmarks ~12% better than the 1070ti and the extra 50€ shouldnt be a problem when you consider to buy a 450€+ graphicscard

It's only 12% better because it is not factory OCed at all. nVidia did not allow any factory OCing on for just that reason, to keep the 1080 looking like it's not a rip off. If you are willing to OC the 1070ti the 1080 is no longer 12% better. If you can get your OC to about 2.0 it becomes pretty equal to a 1080 at that point.

So if you are not going to manually OC then yeah, the 1080 is likely a better choice. If you are willing to do that OC yourself though, the 1070ti is clearly a better value.

Here are some benchmarks showing the 1070ti with an OC actually beating the stock 1080.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1515...-ti/page2.html

and here's a pretty good summary:

The GTX 1080 Gaming X currently costs $570 while the GTX 1070 Ti Gaming is priced at $490. Both are well over their MSRPs, but let's ignore that for now because GPU pricing is inflated across the board. The 1080 costs 16% more and with both cards overclocked the 1080 would be around 6% faster. So the 1070 Ti is certainly a better value, just not worlds better.

Honestly, you can't really go wrong with either choice, unless you buy a 1070ti and don't OC it yourself. Both are valid choices, the 1070ti is just a better value.

[Miyagie]

It's only 12% better because it is not factory OCed at all. nVidia did not allow any factory OCing on for just that reason, to keep the 1080 looking like it's not a rip off. If you are willing to OC the 1070ti the 1080 is no longer 12% better. If you can get your OC to about 2.0 it becomes pretty equal to a 1080 at that point.

So if you are not going to manually OC then yeah, the 1080 is likely a better choice. If you are willing to do that OC yourself though, the 1070ti is clearly a better value.

Here are some benchmarks showing the 1070ti with an OC actually beating the stock 1080.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1515...-ti/page2.html

and here's a pretty good summary:


Honestly, you can't really go wrong with either choice, unless you buy a 1070ti and don't OC it yourself. Both are valid choices, the 1070ti is just a better value.

MSRPs isnt the real world the MSI Gaming 1080 cost just 50€ more here and when you look at the Asus Strix its only 35€, Palit just 25€.

[Lathais]

MSRPs isnt the real world the MSI Gaming 1080 cost just 50€ more here and when you look at the Asus Strix its only 35€, Palit just 25€.

Yeah, that summary was saying to ignore MSRP too, it just mentioned both are well above it. With rel world pricing the 1080 is 16% more expensive for only 6% more performance, if you OC yourself. If you don't OC then you are still looking at about a 16% price increase and still not gettin 16% more performance, only 12% more. No matter how you look at it, price/performance the 1070ti wins and with that OC it's only about 6% behind performance wise, not something you are likely to notice. If you want to spend more for a disproportionate amount of more performance, that's on you. I clearly state neither are really bad choices, but if you are willing to OC yourself then the 1070ti is clearly a better value.