View Poll Results: If your spouse cheated on you, would you forgive them?

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  1. #1
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    Infidelity can be forgiven – but at a cost

    Infidelity is very common. At least 20 per cent of couples – and perhaps many more, depending on where you set the limit – are unfaithful to their spouse.

    Being forgiven for infidelity is simply not easy. But many people whose spouse forgives them mistrust the signals and do not really believe that they are forgiven, according to a new study from NTNU.

    “We have a strong tendency not to believe our partner when they tell us we are forgiven,” says Mons Bendixen, an associate professor in the Department of Psychology.

    Overcompensate

    Free of charge infidelity is not, because possible forgiveness comes at a considerable cost. A large part of this cost we bring upon ourselves.

    When you do not really believe you are forgiven, even if your partner asserts that you are, you will overcompensate.

    You may become more attentive, buy gifts or do other things that you expect your partner will appreciate. Underestimating the degree of forgiveness is probably an evolutionary mechanism, because the relationship may be in danger.

    “The cost could be high if you think you are forgiven, but really are not. You might not work hard enough to mend the relationship,” says Bendixen.

    Better safe than sorry, it is better to make a little extra effort rather than do too little.

    Regardless, the consequences are usually uncomfortable for the unfaithful party. Your partner takes it for granted that you believe what he or she says to be true.

    Advantageous to be wrong

    In this case, it may be to your advantage to be wrong. The Error Management Theory (EMT), a theory of evolved perceptual errors, can help explain why. (See fact box.)

    We can make one of two false assumptions when we interpret signals: we can believe that something exists even if it doesn’t, and we can believe that something doesn’t exist even if it does.

    From an evolutionary perspective, it’s a question of which errors are more adaptable.

    “An example is men who think women are interested in sex, even though the women’s intention is just to be nice. The most important thing for men in situations like this is not to miss a sexual opportunity,” says Bendixen.

    Similarities between the sexes

    Most partners aren’t particularly intent on getting revenge or seeing their partner suffer. That doesn’t mean that it never happens, but the probability is the same for both sexes.

    They are more likely to pull away and want to keep some distance.

    “Partners want infidelity to have a cost, but will rarely respond by being unfaithful themselves,” says evolutionary psychologist Trond Viggo Grøntvedt at NTNU’s Department of Public Health and Nursing.

    There is also no difference between the sexes when it comes to whether they would break up with the unfaithful partner or not. This is as likely for women as for men.

    The sexes agree on a lot when it comes to infidelity. But one exception exists.

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    Facts

    Error Management Theory

    Making erroneous assumptions on the basis of signals from the physical and social world is the result of natural selection, because the cost of one type of error has been higher than the other throughout evolution.

    For example, we may mistakenly believe when we go out walking on a dark autumn night that a long object on the trail is a snake. We may also believe that a smile, laughter or a light touch on the arm from another person means that they have sexual intentions This is what we call overperception or a false-positive error.

    The opposite is true with forgiveness. Following a transgression, we get signals from the partner that everything is OK, but we tend to believe that everything is not OK.

    These errors lead us to act. We jump away from the object, we respond with a pick-up line and make an advance, or we strive to secure our relationship after the transgression. However, these actions entail relatively low costs.

    The alternatives are potentially much more costly. We do not jump away and it’s a poisonous snake, we pass up a sexual opportunity or we continue the relationship as if the transgression has not happened – and suddenly the partner withdraws from the relationship, or break up.

    “Men often do not understand how hard emotional infidelity is on women,” says Professor Leif Edward Ottesen Kennair in the Department of Psychology.

    Sexual infidelity strongly affects both men and women. Neither men nor women usually find it acceptable for their partner to have sex outside the marriage.


    But say you meet someone at a party and dance and flirt with the person there. Later you meet that person multiple times without telling your partner, but you don’t have sex. A friend of your partner finds out, and even reports that you look like you are in love. Is this wrong?

    Women find this scenario much worse than men do.

    “Many men do not see this as infidelity at all, since they did not have sex with the other woman,” said Kennair.

    Is this a problem? Well, yes, maybe.

    Men forgive more often

    Men who are confronted with emotional infidelity do not necessarily think that they have done anything wrong. As a result, they do not attempt to make up for anything, at least not as much as if they had been sexually unfaithful. This certainly does not benefit the relationship.

    “It can also be a seed for conflict in the relationship,” says Kennair.

    At the same time, men are more likely to forgive this form of infidelity in their spouse. Men have less need to distance themselves from their partner than women do, and they look at emotional infidelity as less threatening to the relationship than women do.
    The same with jealousy

    This matches up with the psychologists’ predictions. Previously, they investigated jealousy reactions in women and men around the suspicion of imminent infidelity. Many of the same patterns were found in that study.

    Women become most jealous at the thought of their partner being emotionally unfaithful, whereas men become most jealous in the case of sexual infidelity.

    This is again entirely in line with the evolutionary theory of parental investment. For most women, it has been worse for them from both a historical and evolutionary perspective if their partner breaks up with them than it has been for most men.

    Becoming emotionally attached to someone other than themselves has therefore been more threatening to women than to men.

    Researchers conducted the survey with 92 heterosexual couples. These were young students who answered questions about imagined sexual or emotional infidelity by their partner and themselves. (The questions can be found here.)

    Whether these responses would apply to all heterosexual relationships is of course a question. Those asked were young, perhaps inexperienced and idealistic, starting their adult lives, so they could more easily find a new partner than others, and we can assume they knew they would talk to each other about the answers afterwards.

    But the conditions were the same for both sexes, and gender differences are nevertheless clear.

    Infidelity is named as the most common cause of divorce in Norway, although other reasons often underlie it. Women initiate divorce much more often than men do.
    http://sciencenordic.com/infidelity-...%E2%80%93-cost

    Interesting article

    This makes it seem like infidelity is like forgetting to water the plants.

    What do you make of it? Have you cheated on someone? Or were you cheated on?
    Would you forgive?

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    No, but that is because it would have less to do with them, than it would with me. I have known some people that tried to work it out after cheating, the problem is while in their mind they wanted or thought they forgiven, the truth was they were driven to even more controlling and paranoia, and eventually it was both ways.

    For me when the trust is gone, it's gone, I literally wouldn't tie a leash to the person I love because I felt well hell maybe they will slip fall and fall into sex with someone else. Nah, trust is gone it's gone. Can't change the past, and I would still have that love for them before, but yeah after they cheat it's over.

    I think why they cheated is important, I think some motives are a bit more sinister than others, say they were too young and didn't experience enough life before marriage, or distance time away, made them lonely.

    No good reasons for cheating IMO when you can be up front and should before anything happens, but I can get it

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    I'm not a cuck, so obv I'm not gonna be happy about my woman having sex w/ someone else.

    Infidelity is a 100% dealbreaker.

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    Why doesn't the poll include "there is no reason to promise to be sexually monogamous in order to maintain a sexual relationship to begin with"? People's sexual desires, like all desires, can change over time.

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    There already is a cost. It means it's over.

    People who stay have no self-esteem.
    Money talks, bullshit walks..

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    Depends, if i have kids with her then ill just get a divorce, but if i don't, ill make kids then divorce her because i need heirs.

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    He who does not love eternally will struggle to love even for one moment.

    There is only permanence and impermanence. Love must be one of those two. Any escape clause at all and it's the latter. But then, we live in the wake of nominalism, naturalism, and secularism. How's that working out for you guys, by the way? Happy?

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    I'm really surprised at that "greater than 20%" statistic. Infidelity is a deal-breaker for me: one offense and it's over. I've also never cheated on someone or even had the desire to.

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    The question doesn't even matter if people are just honest with each other and themselves. People change over time, but love is work at the same time. People sometimes confuse the two because they are not honest with themselves and imagine that things will always be the exact same as when they started.

    It's honestly a very simple concept. You have your wants and needs, so do they. When you're together, the unit ALSO has wants and needs and you either provide for one or for the other. You can't do both as soon as one is at odds with the other, ie cheating. Don't wanna support the unit?? Then leave it, don't destroy it because you have no spine or empathy.

    It is EASY to think of others first, why wouldn't it be even easier to think of a partner first? Because you simply don't care as much about them/the unit as about yourself. Which itself isn't a bad quality but no one should have to pay in tears for it because one is a selfish coward.

    Love ain't some magical or divine force. It's a biological result in the brain that manifests in our behavior and WE give it meaning. Not anything or anyone else.

  10. #10
    World is not black and white. There are enough couples where after one case they have never ever repeated it and are truly sorry for what they did.
    Still gonna go on with the mantra of "once a cheater, always a cheater?"
    P.S.
    And let's not forget kids, for they suffer the most. Before you rage, think a bit.

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    Solution: never get married, and have open and free relationships.

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    You should stand by your word, whatever the cost may be.
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