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    Pilgrim's Bounty, Blizzard Gear Sale, Tweets, Build of the Month, HeroStorm #32

    What Happened in Hearthstone? Taking a Look Back at November 13 - 19

    Pilgrim's Bounty
    The Pilgrim’s Bounty is coming up from November 20 to November 27 and with it comes a time to reflect upon one’s good fortune and share feasts with everyone around you!



    New in 2017
    With the introduction of the Appearance tab in 7.0, the non-transmoggable Pilgrim set can be saved and transmogged during the duration of the holiday.



    The Spirit of Sharing
    The main area where the festivities take place is right outside the capital cities for the Horde and Alliance and in a couple of smaller towns.

    • Players can interact with the many foods options set on these tables and will gain a buff by eating or passing each of the servings.
    • There are 5 buffs in total that you can gain that when combined together will reward the The Spirit of Sharing buff that grants 10% increase in reputation gains for one hour. This is great if you are working on Legion reputations and completing World Quests or working on other reputations for a little boost.



    Cooking
    Pilgrim’s Bounty is centered around cooking and there are 5 recipes to add to your cooking collection. All you need to do is buy the Bountiful Cookbook from Bountiful Barrel located at each capital city table to learn them. The recipes are used for several quests, dailies, and the Now We’re Cookin’ achievement related to the holiday.




    Cosmetic Items
    5 daily quests can be found around the bountiful tables at capital cities that award a piece of a non-transmoggable Pilgrim’s set or a Pilgrim's Bounty cache.



    Non-Transmoggable Set

    Pilgrim’s Bounty Cache


    Achievements
    There are 9 achievements for the Pilgrim’s Bounty holiday, 7 required for the meta achievement Pilgrim that will award you with the title the Pilgrim along with the Plump Turkey battle pet and 2 that are separate.

    Do note that Pilgrim is not required to complete the What a Long, Strange Trip It’s Been meta achievement for the Violet Proto-Drake.


    Pilgrim Achievements

    Off-Meta Achievements
    • Pilgrim’s Progress - Complete each of the Pilgrim’s Bounty dailies.
    • Pilgrim’s Peril - While wearing either a Pilgrm’s Dress, Robe, or Attire, take a seat at each enemy capital’s Bountiful Table.


    Blizzard Gear Sale
    The Blizzard Gear store will have some flash sales during the upcoming week!



    Blue Tweets
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    So, remind me how "viable" non Warrior tanks were in Vanilla? ie: Bear Druids & Prot Paladins.
    Speaking as someone who did it: Less viable than Warriors. More viable than people thought. (Celestalon)
    By today's forum standards, obviously 100% nonviable and useless, so it does sort of depend on what you're asking.
    I remember a video of a bear (Hugehoss) tanking Garr + all of his adds. Was quite the inspiration! (Celestalon)
    partially gear dependent - some of which you couldn't acquire until BWL either
    Bears in Vanilla were hiiiighly gear-dependent, and in odd ways. Scaled extreeeemely well with Bonus Armor, which was super rare. (Celestalon)
    So the best gearset commonly included a lvl 43 world drop epic, shoulders from Sunken Temple, rings from a Tanaris quest and MC drop, etc. (Celestalon)

    with the new raid opening on Nov.28th should we expect the difficulty of mythic + to increase or remain the same?
    Consistent with NH/ToS opening, you'll see the reward ceiling go up to M15 when Mythic Antorus opens. Dungeon difficulty won't change.(WatcherDev)

    Build of the Month - November 2017
    Each month or so we will post a couple of hardware setups for those of you who are thinking of upgrading their computer!

    All of the parts on this page are Amazon affiliate links. When you purchase your parts through them it helps support the site!


    This month
    New CPUs from Intel have been released but are proving challenging to actually find in stock. They will require a new motherboard as well. We will update our build list with the 8600K and other Coffee Lake CPUs when stock improves. If you can find an 8600K in stock, be sure to use a Z370 motherboard, as older motherboards are not compatible even though they have the same pin count.

    The current SSD prices are fairly flat right now, with most SSDs under $0.50 per gigabyte when on sale.

    Depending on how much you want to overclock, you may need to spend a bit more for a better CPU cooler like the NH-D15.

    Unless you are doing a lot of video rendering or streaming, you do not need the 7700K and would get more performance from spending that money elsewhere.

    Make sure to keep your AMD and Nvidia drivers up to date.

    Don't forget to visit the Computer Forum for any extra questions!

    Peripherals


    Narwhal

    MonitorDell U2414H Monitor$225
    KeyboardLogitech G710+$90
    MouseLogitech G502$45
    SpeakersLogitech Z323 2.1$50

    Unicorn

    MonitorDell U2717D Monitor$410
    KeyboardCorsair K70$115
    MouseRazer Naga Chroma$50
    SpeakersLogitech Z523$74


    Puppy and Dolphin
    All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Puppy and Dolphin.

    Puppy

    Updated November 19, 2017
    $575
    Case Carbide Series 200R$60
    Power Supply EVGA 600B$54
    CPU Intel G4500$77
    Heatsink Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO$30
    Motherboard MSI Pro Z270$84
    Memory 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4$110
    Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX 1050$120
    Hard Drive Western Digital Blue 1TB$50
    DVD Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW$21

    Dolphin

    Updated November 19, 2017
    $942
    Case Carbide Series 200R$60
    Power Supply EVGA 600B$54
    CPU Intel 7600K$200
    Heatsink Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO$30
    Motherboard ASUS Z270-K$100
    Memory 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4$110
    Graphics Card GTX 1060 3GB$213
    Hard Drive Western Digital Black 2TB$120
    DVD Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW$21


    Narwhal and Unicorn
    All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Narwhal and Unicorn.

    Narwhal

    Updated November 19, 2017
    $1244
    Case Cooler Master HAF 912$55
    Power Supply EVGA GQ 650W$76
    CPU Intel 7600K$200
    Heatsink Noctua NH-U12S$58
    Motherboard ASUS Z270-A$145
    Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4$189
    Graphics Card GTX 1060 OR
    GTX 1070
    $270
    $440
    Hard Drive Western Digital Black 2TB$120
    SSD Crucial MX300 275GB OR
    Samsung Evo 850 250GB
    $80
    $90
    DVD Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW$21

    Unicorn

    Updated November 19, 2017
    $1501
    Case Corsair Air 540$100
    Power Supply EVGA GQ 650W$76
    CPU Intel 7600K$200
    Heatsink Noctua 6 NH-D15$90
    Motherboard ASUS Z270-A$145
    Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4$195
    Graphics Card GTX 1070 $419
    Hard Drive Western Digital Black 2TB$120
    SSD SAMSUNG 850 Pro 256GB$110
    DVD Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW$21


    HeroStorm - Ep32: Ma Fury On Malfurion
    Another episode of HeroStorm has been released!

    Last edited by chaud; 2017-11-20 at 08:32 PM.

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    Oh man, that stein is pretty neat. Gonna have to peak at the sales on the 22nd and 23rd.

    Also completely forgot about Pilgrim's Bounty.

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    Blue Tweets
    with the new raid opening on Nov.28th should we expect the difficulty of mythic + to increase or remain the same?
    Consistent with NH/ToS opening, you'll see the reward ceiling go up to M15 when Mythic Antorus opens.
    Does that mean that if you just do 1 lvl10 mythic+ per week you get a mythic15 loot in your next weekly chest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niight9 View Post
    Does that mean that if you just do 1 lvl10 mythic+ per week you get a mythic15 loot in your next weekly chest ?
    No. That is when a new major patch comes out.

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    Funny how those setups are still highly "Intel" CPUs with Ryzen being a splendid alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairesha View Post
    Funny how those setups are still highly "Intel" CPUs with Ryzen being a splendid alternative.
    Not funny at all when you keep in mind that the "recommendations" are merely the affiliate links that pay the most. I think they would recommend a pile of dog crap over Intel CPUs if it resulted in .001% more cash.

    Welcome to the 21st century internet. Enjoy your stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairesha View Post
    Funny how those setups are still highly "Intel" CPUs with Ryzen being a splendid alternative.
    While i do agree on the lower end that AMD is better than the Intel counter part I'm not sure if AMD holds well in the higher end of things. Ryzen seems to go with just cores while Intel is still ipc per clock king.
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    Suggesting Intel 7th is just plain crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gich View Post
    Suggesting Intel 7th is just plain crazy.
    The 8600K has been in and out of stock (most out) since release. I've noted this, but until you can actually buy them I'm probably not going to include them in the list. Looking right now, Newegg, B&H, and Amazon are OOS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nairesha View Post
    Funny how those setups are still highly "Intel" CPUs with Ryzen being a splendid alternative.
    Ryzen is nice, but not that competitive for games that require a high IPC (such as WoW).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorTjc View Post
    While i do agree on the lower end that AMD is better than the Intel counter part I'm not sure if AMD holds well in the higher end of things. Ryzen seems to go with just cores while Intel is still ipc per clock king.
    Funny because Ryzen actually has higher ipc vs Kaby Lake.

    https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/...d-Test-IPC.png

    @chaud another funny thing is how 8600 is impossible to find yet it will be listed as suggested where RX 470/480/570/580 are not impossible to find and already on reasonable prices and are on the market for over an year now and not in your suggested lists

    You are not doing a favor to the MMO-Champion community by completely ignoring half of the market in your suggestions.
    Last edited by Pyrophobia; 2017-11-20 at 08:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    The 8600K has been in and out of stock (most out) since release. I've noted this, but until you can actually buy them I'm probably not going to include them in the list. Looking right now, Newegg, B&H, and Amazon are OOS.
    Irrelevant. You leave the 7th on the shelf, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophobia View Post
    Funny because Ryzen actually has higher ipc vs Kaby Lake.

    https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/...d-Test-IPC.png

    @chaud another funny thing is how 8600 is impossible to find yet it will be listed as suggested where RX 470/480/570/580 are not impossible to find and already on reasonable prices and are on the market for over an year now and not in your suggested lists

    You are not doing a favor to the MMO-Champion community by completely ignoring half of the market in your suggestions.
    Yet another benchmark shows Ryzen as being slower: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...review,26.html

    The AMD GPUs are not as great for WoW and are mostly equal to the Nvidia counterparts.

    Even if Intel, AMD, and Nvidia had all perfectly equal offerings, I'm only going to list one CPU and GPU most of the time, so you won't get both and someone is going to be unhappy here.

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    There are 2 competitors that provide similar hardware in the same price brackets. It's not hard to list 1 of each for each build. Not listing entire line of 1 competitor is hardly justified by less than 5% difference in ipc performance when the price difference is usually more than compensating the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    Even if Intel, AMD, and Nvidia had all perfectly equal offerings, I'm only going to list one CPU and GPU
    It really sounds like a silly excuse to keep AMD out.
    Really... I can't find another angle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gich View Post
    It really sounds like a silly excuse to keep AMD out.
    Really... I can't find another angle...
    If you go back and look, I included AMD CPUs for years and AMD GPUs for years (when they had a huge price/performance advantage). Right now Intel and Nvidia are generally the better buy. I don't really care much about one company vs the other beyond hoping AMD does well so they can keep creating competition like they are with Ryzen.

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    RX 580 8gb beats 1060 - 6gb in almost every game there is out there. The only drawback is slightly higher power draw.
    Currently in Europe you can even find RX 580 cards cheaper than the 1060's and more, if you compare the rx 570 4GB vs 1060 3Gb the performance difference is higher for similar price bracket.

    Not including AMD has to have a reason and every time the build of the month is posted people are questioning your decision to exclude AMD for a reason. You are yet to give a valid one.
    Last edited by Pyrophobia; 2017-11-20 at 11:18 PM.

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    Why is everyone using the same Gnome Hunter running away from turkey? She has that blaster on her back. Shoot the turkey and eat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gich View Post
    It really sounds like a silly excuse to keep AMD out.
    Really... I can't find another angle...
    Does it hurt to be that much of a blind fanboy ?
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophobia View Post
    RX 580 8gb beats 1060 - 6gb in almost every game there is out there. The only drawback is slightly higher power draw.
    Currently in Europe you can even find RX 580 cards cheaper than the 1060's and more, if you compare the rx 570 4GB vs 1060 3Gb the performance difference is higher for similar price bracket.

    Not including AMD has to have a reason and every time the build of the month is posted people are questioning your decision to exclude AMD for a reason. You are yet to give a valid one.
    The RX 580 is more expensive (in the US), uses more power, and I wouldn't say it beats it in every game. Certainly not WoW. The same extends to the lower memory versions. I'll consider listing multiple options, but it makes the list longer and more confusing for beginners.

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    So you can tmog the hat... but not the dress. Ok???

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