Mage Tower - All classes, all specs! Is this usual?

[Pr0ev0lution]

I can't stress enough that you make sure that the adds have to walk as far as possible without clipping the goo. Plan this ahead of the adds spawning. Secondly getting the slows up immediately and efficiently is the way to win this. Thirdly and most crucially: DON'T PANIC.

to add to this, for sub unless you have the cloak to basically one shot them the adds need to be controlled a lot more than the other dps and thats not just about slowing them, blind one at the start so you only have 2 running to the boss (especially important in the later waves) try to make sure you have 2 charges of dance available for when they spawn, if any adds get close to the goo kidney shot it your friend, as is vanish cheap shot.

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Aaand I'm finally rid of Kruul forever
Went back with my BrM monk, now with 6 ilevel higher gear and the Keg Smash leggo and I floored him within a few attempts after getting trashed more than 70 times earlier.
Inquisitor went down so quickly that I didn't even have Invoke ready for Kruul himself on my kill (hell one attempt my potion wasn't even back up yet). While the gear helps I guess the last 2 weeks I spent on him tanking and doing some decent level M+ I guess I got him better under control as well. I was feeling quite well after this and proceeded to do my Prot Pala aswell as I got her to i937 the last 2 weeks. Didn't have the legs or other special leggo's but it worked quite well. Avengers Shield interrupt inquisitor so often he becomes quite easy and I must add that the aggresive method of dealing with this encounter works best, a.k.a. smash inquisitor relentlessly. Took me about 10 attempts I think overall. Kruul himself is not that problematic with the HUGE array of cd's you have including Fist of Justice about every 30 seconds. Concerning the adds I noticed that it was best to not to pay too many attention to the nether adds, in the sense that if they are on Velen for a few seconds, then so be it. If that is necessesary to survive or keep any important part of the fight under control then let them and don't be in a rush to pick them up.

Having cleared Kruul now on all tanks I rank them as follows in difficulty hardest to easiest: Prot Warrior (without the right gear) > Blood DK = BrM Monk > Guardian Druid (provided you atleast have one of the leggo's) = Prot Pala > Vengeance DH = Prot Warrior (with the zerg gear).

After doing these I also did Holy Pala, which was quite doable, annoying as always, but doable. Double beacon makes some parts fairly easy, plus I must that being a Tauren with War Stomp was quite nice as well. That said I couldn't get past the spirit section without any adds spawning afterwards. I always got two, but I didn't mind that much as after that phase I reaaally needed to mana up after each attempt. Had two mages spawn though on my first time there.... Ouch.... cleared it still, but really ouch, especially your team doesn't prioritize one. Being the third clear of this challenge, it was actually the first where I was still alive at the end and had a very clean last phase (Divine Shield really is that magic cd).
Now I only got Holy Priest and MW Monk left. I expect MW to not give me that much issues, especially since I geared up for my BrM, I'm also 940 on MW xD. Holy is probs where the challenge is going to be. Two days left now to finish this and to join the 36/36 club

[ey b0ss]

And today I join the 36/36 club :^).

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Honestly with the current gear available I'd say that if you get a third wave you are already doing something wrong.

That depends on what you mean with current gear. I've done most around the i930 mark and I always saw a third wave. Consider that depending on the spec you need to reserve CDs for the adds xD

And today I join the 36/36 club :^).

Gz

Not so lucky myself yet. HPriest is now the bouncer that refuses me access to that exclusive club xD. Holy Pala and MW were so easy xD. Once again P1 wave 5 is kicking my ass, although I got past it 3 times now. Then I get to the spirit phase... Just kill me please... My party just insists on killing each other while I already have a hard time healing the spirits up. I can get 3 spirits on the first round, and after that I try to do just 2 per round, as 3 is not gonna happen. I think they overdid this phase a bit with HPriest. I feel like I'm missing tools. Druid and Pala atleast could stabilize quite easy with HoTs and beacons, Monk just has the OP heal that is called Vivify, Shaman was harder, but there I had the emergency spirit link. Guardian spirit just isn't cutting it so far. TBH the one person who thought to put this after the hellish P1 is just plain evil. The last phase I now have completely under control and find that actually easy now (first two challenge I died on my kills and my last 2 were clean and with me living at the end). I just need to get past that effin spirit phase. Might actually get some extra gear even if I should be able to do it with i927 xD.

[ey b0ss]

I still need to do a +15 mythic on all classes.

[Gestopft]

to add to this, for sub unless you have the cloak to basically one shot them the adds need to be controlled a lot more than the other dps and thats not just about slowing them, blind one at the start so you only have 2 running to the boss (especially important in the later waves) try to make sure you have 2 charges of dance available for when they spawn, if any adds get close to the goo kidney shot it your friend, as is vanish cheap shot.

I tried Blind on one of the adds but found having to go back and kill it was letting the ground effect spread too much. I did it by using every possible GCD for damage.

[LaplaceNoMa]

Finally completed my 36/36!

Had a small self-imposed challenge of not using the 'recommended' legendaries (like the slow ring for Affli or chest/bracers for Guardian etc), not using any enchants (except for weapon runes for DKs), consumables (including drums - but I still used BL on mage, shaman and hunter) or water during combat drop breaks on my healers. All characters were ~925-930 except for my mains Mage and Hunter.

Most didn't take more than 1-3 pulls, but there were some outliers:

1) SP. I tried doing the non-STM route and I simply couldn't deal with the hands fast enough; it was a lot harder than doing the same with my boomkin that was geared way worse than SP. So, I decided to go the STM route... Every STM kill I've found on youtube or in wowhead comments mentioned that 9k haste + sephuz or 12k haste without sephuz AND drums were required; after a couple of hours of suffering, I finally managed to do the 1-phase STM kill with 6k haste, without sephuz or drums.

2) Warlock, Twins again. I couldn't find a way to do the encounter 'normally' without the slowing ring, so I resorted to cheesing Karam by fearing the heal cast.

3) Doing monk heal challenge with 2 tank trinkets was... tricky. However, at some point I realized that they are still very useful against double fixates. Still, I lacked healing power during the 3-add-waves phase.

4) Out of tanks, I struggled the most on my warrior that only had STR trinkets and a whopping 7 million HP. Even 4 stacks of aura was enough for Inquisitor to almost one-shot me with his casts.

5) My rogue had the hardest Agatha and Xylem time. Other classes had way easier Agatha and Xylem runs, and actually I managed to reach the enrage on Xylem phase 2 on rogue - only survived due to evasion. And of course I didn't use the cloak for aoe burst here, too.


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As for the easiest challenge-spec combos...

Tank -- DH, hands down. I don't think any comments are even needed.

Healing -- Holy Priest. Shackle undead makes this challenge several dozens times easier than for other specs.

Agatha -- Ele Shaman. Perhaps this result is skewed for me, since I haven't used drums on other classes, but used shaman's BL, but anyway - adds simply EVAPORATE via artifact ability. Even Feral and Frost DK (which were also very easy compared to Outlaw and Fury) didn't feel so faceroll.

Twins -- Boomkin, probably. I can't be objective here, since my Frost mage and MM hunter were very overgeared, and I had very stupid self-imposed challenges on Affli and SP.

Sygrin -- Pretty much all of them are stupidly easy. I'd probably name Demo warlock as the easiest, it just didn't feel like it's even possible to die there.

Tugar -- Disc Priest, obviously. That 'challenge' was easier than doing some random world quest, really.

Xylem -- DH! I heard some scary things before attempting it, and my first meeting with Xylem was on DH, too; but the challenge was stupidly easy on DH. Stunning the ice prison to get a million shards (that will reset eye beam and stun itself), then simply double-jumping out of it, I managed to bring him even lower (<50%) than on my 960+ Surv hunter before the first transition. Transition is also definitely the easiest with 2 fel rushes; no fear of dying due to stupid amounts of self-healing during Meta (and Meta procing from the Eye beam)... And well, the adds on P2 lived no more than a couple of seconds. Even Arms warrior didn't evaporate them that fast.

[Garkanh]

This mage tower i managed to complete 12 challenges, putting me at 16.

Had done outlaw, elemental, fire and unholy previosly, so i started off finishing the two last agatha challenges, feral and fury, puttinf me at 6/36 without much trouble.

Then i was thinking about what challenge to do next, and decided to beat up xylem.

Got frost dk done pretty easily, but i had ilvl 936, so probably the reason. Then i did havoc, a little challenging mirror phase since he always teleportet too far away for double rush, but i got it eventually.
Then arms warrior, same as with havoc, but taking double charge along with heroic leap made it durable.
Survival hunter was a joke. No issues in mirror phase, although phase 2 did cause some trouble, since i had a hard time dealing with the adds. Managed it after a few attempts though.
Gave up with subtlety after about 50 failed attempts. Need some more gear for that one.

Then i took on sigryn, assasination rogue went pretty smooth. Same with enhancement shaman, but arcane mage made me switch to another challenge out of ragequitting. No idea how i'm supposed to survive without going oom.

Then i did the marksmanship challenge, which was pretty easy. Attempted it with affliction warlock and balance druid, but got smashed for 30 attempts with both specs.

The did the prot warrior challenge. By far the easiest tank challenge (and the only one i finished). Blood dk, vengeance dh and guardian druid all seemed imposible, compared to the faceroll prot warrior.

After finishing all warrior challenges, i decided to finish the last hunter challenge, tugar for bm. Got it in 2 attempts, so i tried with windwalker aswell and 1-shot the encounter.
Then tried disc priest, and while it seemed easy enough, every time i got tugar to like 10%, his cast 1-shot me through all my cooldowns, as if he had enraged. So i might need some better gear. Sadly, ran out of time on the mage tower, but hopefully i can be a bit better geared for next time the tower is up.

[Halyana]

So far i have completed all the druid Mage tower challenges, 2 of the warrior ones, 2 of the priest ones.

For the druid:
Balance druid, go with the Starfall talent that let you move while casting that about it.

Feral druid, is easy. i have done it twice. one time i even had tank trinkets due to my alt druid was crap geared.

Resto druid, i over geared it with Antorus 4 set and Velen's trinket thingy. was pretty easy if you are around 930-940.

Guardian druid, was the hardest one for me, i haven't played any tank specs other than doing WQ's with them. so basically no muscle memory of the how to play the spec. but somehow managed to get it after around 20 tries, gradually learning how to play Guardian.


the priest ones i did was Holy and Disc.

Disc priest one was easy. like soloing a regular random Heroic boss, i went inside 1 attempt to see how it was, then i did it the try after.

Holy was harder, but i wasted all my mana spam healing all 3 of the targets you need, didn't let anyone through, if you have the mana back trinket from what's the boss in Antorus, it is glorious for doing damage to the target, and give you mana.


on my warrior i have done Arms and Frry.
Arms was somewhat easy if you got a aoe trinket or two, helped me out.

Fury was one of the one i found harder to do,

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I'm on 29/36 at the moment, got Arcane mage, Rogue and Shaman left to do.

The challenges aren't really hard per-say - it's just finding the time to gear everything I usually get to about 920 on each character get atleast 66 traits in my weapon. 2 legendaries, usually the insignia then a random drop one

But while still mythic raiding 3 days a week and doing uni work I only really get the weekends to do them, and the tower isn't always up.

But I'll definitely get them done before BFA, 4 months to do 2 classes? More than enough time

Biggest tip I have is make sure you do invasions in advance (like while you are gearing) to make sure you have enough shards

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I finally managed to do the 1-phase STM kill with 6k haste, without sephuz or drums.

Why would you make it MORE difficult for your self by not buying drums? Seems kinda stupid

[Deleted]

I am returned from my ban, and as of last thursday, I too joined the 36/36 club after finally beating the Subletly challenge.

So long, nightmares of LFR gearing every toon.

[Garkanh]

For Arcane, you really shouldn't be trying to do much dps until after the hard part. At some point Sigryn empowers everyone. Go slow on dps and conserve mana so you have your shield up at this point since you are likely to mess one of the 4-5 things that are happening at the same time. Only burst at the pull and then again to break the shields, otherwise conserve. Once you get to that point you can just continue and kill the guy with the axes so you can focus on the caster. It really is not that hard. Of course it is vastly easier with Prydaz and/or Belovir's.

I am really surprised you found Vengeance hard. I think everyone (myself included) considers it the easiest tank challenge? How familiar are you with vengeance and what was killing you?

I have never really played vengeance before. But i feel like they have way too many things to press, and the adds just melt me.

And the inquisitor breaks free from my imprisonments 1 second after i use it, and the cast drain life over and over. He casts it like every 8-10 seconds it feels like.

I may be fucking something up really badly. Just found it weird how easy prot warrior felt in comparison. Charge in,smash buttons, leap out, kill adds, charge in, smash buttons, leap out.

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I hope Blizzard adds more of these challenges in the future. It increased the drought's longevity by 4 months for me, which is impressive.

[Thrif]

Welp, I'm pretty happy right now since after getting the outlaw and holy paladin I'm at 32/36 and I've got all the skins I wanted. We'll see if I can be bothered to get the last four (prot pala, brew, mist, subtlety), at this point I probably should just for the sake of completion, but I'm not a big fan of any of the skins and they all seem to be pretty time consuming.

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I hope Blizzard adds more of these challenges in the future. It increased the drought's longevity by 4 months for me, which is impressive.

Same. I'm just about done and there's 3.5 months left until the next expansion which is a pretty perfect vacation/draught period imho. Also they're pretty fun in and of themselves, so I definitely also hope they keep adding them. Although with armor sets and no more weapons... think I've got enough for a while.

[Deleted]

Welp, I'm pretty happy right now since after getting the outlaw and holy paladin I'm at 32/36 and I've got all the skins I wanted. We'll see if I can be bothered to get the last four (prot pala, brew, mist, subtlety), at this point I probably should just for the sake of completion, but I'm not a big fan of any of the skins and they all seem to be pretty time consuming.

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Same. I'm just about done and there's 3.5 months left until the next expansion which is a pretty perfect vacation/draught period imho. Also they're pretty fun in and of themselves, so I definitely also hope they keep adding them. Although with armor sets and no more weapons... think I've got enough for a while.

Brewmaster and Mistweaver aren't an investment if you've done the challenges before. I 2shot Mistweaver and I read up on the spec's rotation 15 minutes beforehand. Brewmaster can be cheesed hard. Prot and Sub are a matter of gear I've found.

In hindsight they are indeed fun, they're just frustrating when you start out because you're initially uncertain whether you'll complete the challenge at all.

[Leih]

After the last tower uptime at the weekend I have just 4 specs left. Gotta gear my monk because 3 of them are hers. Nearly there!

[Zyrinx]

Managed to mess up Retribution last night in my only attempt before bed - its easy easy easy BAM EVERYTHING AT ONCE, lol. Fatfingered that defensive CD and got splattered. Will definitely get that one done within a few pulls.

I super duper hate the Tower's uptime. Again NA gets no weekend uptime. Its incredibly annoying that there's content, that's being removed, that people wanna do, but it's gated because.... story? I don't even know.

[Arakakao]

I'm at 11/36. I'm not sure I'll be able to do everything, specially because some legendaries are nearly mandatory.

Also, the tank challenge is a nightmare, no matter what gear you have. Knockback can ruin you day (I had to do more than 60 tries with Guardian druid, even with 940+ ilevel). Except for Demon Hunters, who can ignore the knockback mechanic.

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I'm at 11/36. I'm not sure I'll be able to do everything, specially because some legendaries are nearly mandatory.

When your characters are 930+ even the 'mandatory' legendaries stop making a difference. I've completed so many challenges with just the Argus ring and a leggo for another spec. Did Prot pala without legs, Guardian without bracers, Sub without cloak, Affliction without ring etc.

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Gratz, hated subtlety too.

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I mean they are not hard because you are gearing everyone to that level. Remember that when they were originally completed most people had at best 915 gear the crucible did not exist and people had far less traits than that.

sure... that's exactly what I said - there not hard it just takes alot of time to gear everything