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  1. #41
    I can only raid in a very unique time table, so i plan to create my own guild and be the main tank.

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    I wouldn't roll a warrior.

    Every sheep who has paid even the slightest bit of attention will be rolling a warrior because they believe doing so will automatically entitle them to an easy raid spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcoatsyx View Post
    I played a warrior tank from WOTLK onwards until MOP when I stopped playing. I played a shaman through the latter stages of vanilla, and TBC. I much preferred the experience on the warrior. Thinking of making one for classic.


    Anyway, my questions are as follows:

    1. Do you think it will be hard for a warrior to get into a raiding guild? This is likely as a protection warrior. What was it like on nostalrius etc?
    2. What would you say was hard about vanilla tanking? Was it the case that warrior tanks used daggers...?
    3. Would you level a character just for farming things? to avoid changing specialisation from protection? Maybe a level 60 mage can do it?


    Might think of some other stuff, but that's it for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frumpy Frumpy Frak View Post
    I wouldn't roll a warrior.

    Every sheep who has paid even the slightest bit of attention will be rolling a warrior because they believe doing so will automatically entitle them to an easy raid spot.
    If it is 1.11 then yeah warrior/rogue/mage is what the majority of people who want to play DPS should roll. They are flat out the best classes in that roll and warrior is the only Tank that is truthfully 100% viable, Druid is a distant second with Paly and Shaman miles behind.

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    I’m going to multibox 8 warriors 4 4 horsemen.

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    If a miracle happens and I get a job or some cash before it comes out I will play a warrior. I was addicted to wow so my pc went in the bin about 2years ago I litrally went crazy was in mental health hospital I was full blow addict towards the end.. going outside the house for the first time in years was scary. Yeah so if you're from UK and have some work id be greatful I can be a cleaner or tea boy etc. Lazy but trust worthy. But yeah I want to play warrior if life aligns when classic comes out id be happy to be addicted again. Warriors will be most common by far there will be alot of ninja loot two hand weapons. Hard to get groups of you don't tank. Totally went off topic there rambling of a schizophrenic.. Yeah common

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    They're gonna be Druids, Rogues, and Warriors everywhere...

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    I anticipate a lot of people will roll a warrior at the start, but not stick with it. For the people not in the know:

    1) Most gear dependent class, with respects to its two dps specs. It didn't start truly shining in the raid environment until around AQ40 - partially because of the power curve on gear available in that raid and some select pieces from BWL as DPS plate in concert with t2.5.

    2) Fury was at best, an average dps spec until the attack speed nerf(to 2h)/buff(to 1h) weapons happened, and multiple talents including Bloodthirst were significantly buffed. Coincidentally, that also didn't happen until right around AQ gates opening.

    3) Arms was dead weight in a raid.

    4) Few warriors were privileged with being both a main tank or off tank and still also being able to regularly nab good dps items. Remember, a lot of other classes were competing with us for non-tank weapons. Namely hunters. If classic uses a Vanilla patch release schedule, this won't really change.

    I really don't see a whole of warriors trying to stick it out with securing their raid spot by having to tank in a capacity, yet finding themselves routinely being outrolled / outbid(dkp) by 18-22 other people for dps weapons/accessories, while having to also save their rolls/dkp for tanking gear. Remember, itemization was not complete, hunters, rogues, feral druids, and shammies were rolling for items that by today's accounts would ONLY be warrior/dk/ret pally items by way of applied stats. It's just the way it was.
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Wramp View Post
    I played (play) a Prot Warrior all the way from patch 1.3 Vanilla to this day (i have 5 tanking spec toons now, but my Warr is always my main) so to answer your questions:

    1. No
    2. (a) the hardest part of tanking as a warrior is getting the DPS to wait for Taunt, sunder, sunder, sunder on each mob until they can all-out attack
    2. (b) I never used a dagger unless it was a major upgrade, so i cant comment on that really
    3. I had a Mage and a Shaman for farming "things" but my tank was also my herbalist cause i had no issues going anywhere on him once he was MC/BWL geared

    in all honesty your questions are a bit strange, but i answered as honestly as possible (the warrior dagger thing?) and as others have said here and in many other threads, Warriors were the best and possibly ONLY viable tank spec at the start of it all, so i would expect many ppl to level one if they want to tank, and i also expect them to be rare as every guild will have at least 2 well-geared on the roster
    It's going to be rough for warriors who first started in Wrath, though. That was when AoE tanking became a thing, other than pallies in BC.

    Vanilla tanking isn't like that.

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    Warrior or dwarf priest. fear ward baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavfin View Post
    It's going to be rough for warriors who first started in Wrath, though. That was when AoE tanking became a thing, other than pallies in BC.

    Vanilla tanking isn't like that.
    there are still some rough tanking guides on the wayback machine. i recently looked up old Alakhazam (remember them?? lol) Forum posts and found some interesting reads on Vanilla Warrior and Paladin tanking, along with some rough guides for statting and gearing
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    In all honesty, I'll probably stick with a shadow priest or druid, but if I remember correctly, warrior tanks were nice, too.

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    As popular as they are on live, so about 100% of the players that constantly ask "What class OP?" on the forums and in trade chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcoatsyx View Post
    I played a warrior tank from WOTLK onwards until MOP when I stopped playing. I played a shaman through the latter stages of vanilla, and TBC. I much preferred the experience on the warrior. Thinking of making one for classic.


    Anyway, my questions are as follows:

    1. Do you think it will be hard for a warrior to get into a raiding guild? This is likely as a protection warrior. What was it like on nostalrius etc?
    2. What would you say was hard about vanilla tanking? Was it the case that warrior tanks used daggers...?
    3. Would you level a character just for farming things? to avoid changing specialisation from protection? Maybe a level 60 mage can do it?


    Might think of some other stuff, but that's it for now
    1. Back in the day Warriors were THE tank class. Paladins and Druids were designed as off tanks while Warriors where designed as the class for raid boss tanking. Of course, Im sure someone on the internet will come up with maybe 4 different people who raided as main tanks as druids or paladins, but those were few and rare and required some really high level gear and dedicated raid team backing them up. So yeah, warriors are probably going to be on the "easy" side of getting into raids.

    2. The hardest part of most things in vanilla was having the foresight that the class/spec you chose the day you picked your toon was actually realistically viable at max level. Picked a hybrid? sorry if you wanted to be top dps. Pick a non-warrior tank? sorry if you wanted to tank anything other than adds. Picked a non resto shaman? sorry if you wanted to PvP.
    3. Thats completely personal choice. Some people like having alts to fuel their mains, others have a battallions worth of "mains" and others just have 1 toon. Do whatever you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caballitomalo View Post
    1. Back in the day Warriors were THE tank class. Paladins and Druids were designed as off tanks while Warriors where designed as the class for raid boss tanking. Of course, Im sure someone on the internet will come up with maybe 4 different people who raided as main tanks as druids or paladins, but those were few and rare and required some really high level gear and dedicated raid team backing them up. So yeah, warriors are probably going to be on the "easy" side of getting into raids.

    2. The hardest part of most things in vanilla was having the foresight that the class/spec you chose the day you picked your toon was actually realistically viable at max level. Picked a hybrid? sorry if you wanted to be top dps. Pick a non-warrior tank? sorry if you wanted to tank anything other than adds. Picked a non resto shaman? sorry if you wanted to PvP.
    3. Thats completely personal choice. Some people like having alts to fuel their mains, others have a battallions worth of "mains" and others just have 1 toon. Do whatever you like.
    Sorry, but were Enhancement/Elemental not decent for PvP ?`Cause i was gonna roll one and do quite abit of PvP, should i reconsider ? I did play in vanilla, but never a shaman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahandii View Post
    Sorry, but were Enhancement/Elemental not decent for PvP ?`Cause i was gonna roll one and do quite abit of PvP, should i reconsider ? I did play in vanilla, but never a shaman.
    Enhancement and elemental were actually very good in pvp. They were definitely gear dependent, and so you'll usually see people say that they were bad - who just didn't have the gear to make them dangerous.

    A lot of classes were gear dependent. Arms warriors were pretty much just an annoyance until they were either wearing rank12/13 armor/BWL dps plate and a good 2h - yet you'll always see people go on about how good of a class it was while completely omitting it required good gear. Every class/spec wasn't equally as gear dependent as the next. Mages all around were the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evogsr View Post
    Enhancement and elemental were actually very good in pvp. They were definitely gear dependent, and so you'll usually see people say that they were bad - who just didn't have the gear to make them dangerous.

    A lot of classes were gear dependent. Arms warriors were pretty much just an annoyance until they were either wearing rank12/13 armor/BWL dps plate and a good 2h - yet you'll always see people go on about how good of a class it was while completely omitting it required good gear. Every class/spec wasn't equally as gear dependent as the next. Mages all around were the least.
    Thanks for answering.. Yea, gear dependancy is a real thing in classic, i do remember that. Wont worry about that then

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    Played a warrior from 1.0 to when original Naxx came out, then played WotlK to WoD.

    Probably not. Yes they were OP by 1.12, but they ways sucked leveling and early in Vanilla they were in a bad state. It took easy weapons to get like IBS and fixing charge, and more epic gear to make them OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcoatsyx View Post
    I played a warrior tank from WOTLK onwards until MOP when I stopped playing. I played a shaman through the latter stages of vanilla, and TBC. I much preferred the experience on the warrior. Thinking of making one for classic.


    Anyway, my questions are as follows:

    1. Do you think it will be hard for a warrior to get into a raiding guild? This is likely as a protection warrior. What was it like on nostalrius etc?
    2. What would you say was hard about vanilla tanking? Was it the case that warrior tanks used daggers...?
    3. Would you level a character just for farming things? to avoid changing specialisation from protection? Maybe a level 60 mage can do it?


    Might think of some other stuff, but that's it for now
    For your question in the thread title, currently on the vanilla server I'm playing on, warriors and paladins are the most common classes online in my guild at any given time.

    For your other questions:
    1. Warriors are always needed as tanks, off-tanks, and back-up tanks. Raid spots will be available if you understand how to play one of the harder/more complicated classes.
    2. Tanking was hard due to limited UI and class mechanics. You had to be ready to respond to situations as they happened, like your stack of sunders getting knocked off and instantly losing aggro. I believe the dagger were mainly used, because your abilities were used on your next weapon swing, so if you were using a slow weapon, it took longer for these abilities to land. But that was mainly an early Vanilla thing.
    3. Prot can farm things, but it's slower. Usually the tanks and the healers in our guild had to team up with other guildies to get their farming done quickly enough. Hunters are the easiest class to level and farm with, so a hunter alt with 2 gathering professions was pretty common too.

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    Understand this: warriors will be the most common class, but tanks will always be in demand. If you decide to play a warrior on classic, please be a tank lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahandii View Post
    Sorry, but were Enhancement/Elemental not decent for PvP ?`Cause i was gonna roll one and do quite abit of PvP, should i reconsider ? I did play in vanilla, but never a shaman.
    Well, in vanilla shaman was a Horde only class (paladin was alliance only also). From what I recall enhancement was a 1 hander class that dealt insane burst dmg thanks to windfury procs that proc windfury procs and so on. Shaman was a very fotm thing back then I think.

    In the old design structure shaman where though off (as all hybrids I think) primarily as healers. Resto shaman was a powerhouse in pvp and in raiding. Enhancement was thought off, I think, as either a support/leveling spec and maybe as a PvP spec. Elemental, I have no idea, never played that spec.

    Honestly, don´t overthink it. Play what you enjoy. No 1 class is 100% infalible and perfect at all aspects of the game. Comunity likes to point out which class is "better" at any given thing but I think that if you master a class/spec you are perfectly viable to do PvP and/or PvE content.

    Do keep in mind that back in vanilla the "design" of the classes did limit certain things. As good as you might be as enchancement, you were never going to out dps a rogue in equal footing. Same goes for elemental and say mages. All things being equal hybrids where below pure classes when it came to dps.

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