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    Doing less DPS in T21

    Hey everyone,

    I'm making this post as I could use some help. Today I swapped from T20 4p, to T21 4p. Swapping shoulder leg out for the headpiece as well.
    I've simmed my change in gear and the results were the following:

    T20 4p Anger+Delusions: 1513581 dps
    T21 4p Anger+Raddons: 1547503 dps

    T21 does sim better, but in reality this isn't the thing ive been seeing when testing it. Now i've only done some plain raid dummy testing, as the sims are pretty much based on patchwerk style as well. While in T20 I would always be around the 1.50 mil, close to my sim numbers...in T21 I hardly manage to get it above 1.38mil. per 'pull' i'm testing for about 6 min. The build im running is 3311333, The rotation i've been using is the following:

    1. Pot
    2. Felrush
    3. Nemesis
    4. Fury of the Illidari
    5. Demons bite (to get fury for Eyebeam)
    6. Eyebeam (going into 8 sec meta)
    7. Chaos Strike spam (Demons bite when needed for fury + soul fragment collecting)
    8. Meta
    9. Chaos Strike spam (Demons bite when needed for fury + soul fragment collecting)
    10. Eyebeam (going into 8 sec meta)
    11. After that its just the regular Chaos strike spam when possible, Demons Bite to regen Fury, Fury of the Illidari on CD, Eyebeam on CD to get the 8 sec meta again. And keep collecting every soulfragment for quicker eyebeam CD.

    So I'm basicly wondering...Am I missing something? Or am I doing something horribly wrong?

    And one more question: Sometimes, with lucky soulfragment spawns, I can use eyebeam again when I still have about 15 seconds left on the duration of my big meta. Should I use eyebeam there (it doesnt extend meta at that point), or should I save it for the 8 sec meta afterwards?

    Thanks in advance ^_^
    Last edited by Zephyra; 2017-12-03 at 11:25 PM.

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    set is crap

    You can safely stay with t20 until your t21 gets a high enough gs to outdps it.

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    set is crap

    The Rotation is right. Use eyebeam with 15 seconds left to meta , the talent demon reborn resets eyebeam anyways.
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    set is crap

    You can swap to t21 if really good TF
    Last edited by Iseeyou; 2017-12-04 at 07:41 AM.

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    Set is crap

    Save eyebeam, as you want to have the highest meta uptime, and with only 15 seconds it is unlikely you'll get enough souls to reset eyebeam.
    Demon reborn resets your eyebeam on cast, not when it ends.

  7. #7
    set is crap

    Replace Raddons with Sephuz for Singletarget Fights.

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    Im using 2p/2p atm because i got 955 pants instead of the 925 old ones. Doesnt feel too bad. Played demonic anyway basically the last weeks of tos so some more eyebeam damage isnt too bad.
    The 15% haste might push me into 3 deathweek per eyebeam instead of 2 which might be a good dps boost.

  9. #9
    Just to be sure: Did you change your crit/haste gear to crit/mastery?
    Sorry to disappoint you, but set is crap anyway.

    For me it sims at 1.76m wit crit/haste t20.
    1.55 with crit/haste t21 demonic.
    1.65 with crit/mastery t21 demonic. (50%crit/40% mastery)
    Did I mention "set is crap"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodyx View Post
    set is crap

    Replace Raddons with Sephuz for Singletarget Fights.
    I understand Sephuz is going to have some value but on ST i'm kinda skeptical. Bosses aren't going to be vulnerable to any sort of stun/silence whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarre View Post
    I understand Sephuz is going to have some value but on ST i'm kinda skeptical. Bosses aren't going to be vulnerable to any sort of stun/silence whatever.
    Sephuz sims high without assuming procs, with procs its even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbro View Post
    Sephuz sims high without assuming procs, with procs its even better.
    Because Sephuz got bit stats (3800 crit).
    An the 2% flat haste ist worth ~2000 hasterating.
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    So, the set is crap? I just want to make sure I got that right.
    All right, gentlemen, let's review. The year is 2018 - that's two-zero-one-eight, as in the 21st Century - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of robed sissies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    So, the set is crap? I just want to make sure I got that right.
    set is crap
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    set is crap

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    My sources say the set is crap.

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    We really should build up a huge "set is crap" combo in the oficial forum until we get a bluepost

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    Set is crap

    T19 is better than T20, T20 is better than T21. GG Blizz

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    Dont worry blizzard has a fix, the T20 set will be nerfed to ensure T21 is better.

    this is not a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabbywabby View Post
    Set is crap

    T19 is better than T20, T20 is better than T21. GG Blizz

    T19 will even be bether then any BoA-Set. *wink wink*

    And i think, they won't nerf t20.


    set is crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shishar View Post
    We really should build up a huge "set is crap" combo in the oficial forum until we get a bluepost
    start it. we will follow.
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    set is crap

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    Someone (uhu) created a set is crap post on official EN dh forum.

    Apparently set is crap.

    Set is crap
    Last edited by Iseeyou; 2017-12-04 at 03:53 PM.

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