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  1. #21
    Has anyone seen or heard what happens with our order halls. I know the garrison gold making was nerfed because you actually never had to leave your garrison if you set it up properly. However the gold from an order hall can be significant but it takes a decent amount of work to set up. I mainly want to find out if it is going to get nerfed into the ground or if it will remain viable going forward, along with the rogue pick pocket weekly.

  2. #22
    Wow artefact "death" is so f lame. We don't use it to end legion for good or kil Sargy - we use it for "soaking" poisons puddle like some kid of rags?

  3. #23
    So Magni...

    You're saying I have no choice...I MUST destroy the Artifact Weapon that I've poured my life into for the last year, done thousands of world quests to power up, and spent countless hours unlocking all the appearances?

    Yeahh....pity about Azeroth, but me and my Artifact Weapon just decided Alternate Draenor is looking like a good home these days.

    (quickly activates garrison hearthstone, while Magni sputters something in anger)

  4. #24
    Wow. Just, wow.

    Just happen to need ALL of our weapons for this, huh. This is literally an idea we came up with in guild chat as a STUPID JOKE.

  5. #25
    I'm torn on the new character creation race icons. I find some of the new ones look better than the originals. like the female draenei, female dwarf, male orc and male dwarf... but, then again, I also think some of the originals looked better on others, like the female undead, female blood elf, male troll and male goblin.

    EDIT: Also, the 'original male race' link is showing the 'original female race' image, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinexve View Post
    Ideally
    1. Argus the Unmaker should have been stronger
    2. We sacrifice our weapons in an all out attack that kills him
    3. Our weapons are destroyed
    4. Sarg would have just stabbed the planet, not leaving his sword behind
    5. We go back to Azeroth to fight for the lifeblood of the planet, the plot of BFA (Druids and Shamans begin to seal the wound)
    6. Upon returning to Azeroth we have the greatest weapon smiths build us temporary weapons for the battle to come
    7. Upon arriving to Zandalar/Kul Tiras we get questing greens/blues and so on, the old weapon system.
    and that doesn't sound lame to you? because it sounds lame to me.

    These weapons were crafted at different times for different purposes throughout the history of Azeroth. It makes little sense that we would need to "sacrifice" them all unless they were specifically tied to the titans in some way. That is of course assuming that ANY needed to be sacrificed for his "defeat".

    It would also be super lame, that we get some "temporary weapons" after we defeat Argus, or worse that we "sacrifice" them and then get to keep them for the remainder of the xpac until an alternative/replacement is provided.

    Also when do we exchange weapons? After we personally defeat him? After a world first?

    My point to all of this, is it doesn't really matter what device you use... they all are pretty poor options, and made for poor design from the beginning, the issues people had with them back in beta are now coming to fruition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danuel View Post
    Wow artefact "death" is so f lame. We don't use it to end legion for good or kil Sargy - we use it for "soaking" poisons puddle like some kid of rags?
    Anyone who raided tomb knew this was coming. A soak to end all soaks. The Soakmageddon. Soaknarok.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Yubelluna View Post
    I get that the alliance helped the nightborne but they are now part of the horde (or at lest will be) so they shouldnt be allowed in their city
    Completely agree with this. GTFO.

  9. #29
    I'm not sure why people think using the artifact weapons to close the wound is stupid. We're using the strongest weapons on Azeroth to seal a wound that the (arguably) strongest entity in Warcraft lore made. It makes plenty of sense to me and is a fitting way to drain the weapons of their power leading us to lose them.

  10. #30
    I would have preferred if our order halls took it from us after our meddling in renewed faction conflict.. Something along the lines ''We forbid you to use this powerful artifact on petty faction conflict, greater evil awaits us. Until then, the artifact will be in our safekeeping.''

    Because right now, the artifacts will be gone, no further development. We will never hear of Ashbringer or Doomhammer ever again.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Elekmatos View Post
    I get that the alliance helped the nightborne but they are now part of the horde (or at lest will be) so they shouldnt be allowed in their city.

    Completely agree with this. GTFO.
    But, are they fully allied with the Horde?

    It appears from what I've read that these "allies" aren't fully joining the Alliance or Horde like a "member" race such as Dwarf or Tauren. They entire race is remaining ostensibly neutral but allowing either the Horde or the Alliance to recruit their citizens through an embassy type system. This would seem to give them enough wiggle room to remain on at least passable terms with the opposing faction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervrak View Post
    So Magni...

    You're saying I have no choice...I MUST destroy the Artifact Weapon that I've poured my life into for the last year, done thousands of world quests to power up, and spent countless hours unlocking all the appearances?

    Yeahh....pity about Azeroth, but me and my Artifact Weapon just decided Alternate Draenor is looking like a good home these days.

    (quickly activates garrison hearthstone, while Magni sputters something in anger)
    Yeah just move to WOD draenor honestly.

    Serious question though: Do we get to keep the appearances we've unlocked as transmog choices for future weapons?

  13. #33
    The style of the command board reminds me a bit of how Star Trek Online handles its quests through their Mission journal, where each arc is kind of bundled up by plotline and shown as a chain, so you can do all the Klingon War or all the Borg Incursion episodes one after another. I would very much like to see this borrowed for WoW, especially now that zones scale.

  14. #34
    The image for the old racial icons for males has the wrong link. This is the right one.

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    Guessing the artifact weapon thing will happen in 8.0? Also guessing this event will happen for EVERYONE on the same day.


    Guessing 8.0, which will come with the new class revamps will automatically turn off everyone's artifact weapon's AP/talents/etc and give you the quest to go use them at the giant sword.
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  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinexve View Post
    Ideally
    1. Argus the Unmaker should have been stronger
    2. We sacrifice our weapons in an all out attack that kills him
    3. Our weapons are destroyed
    4. Sarg would have just stabbed the planet, not leaving his sword behind
    5. We go back to Azeroth to fight for the lifeblood of the planet, the plot of BFA (Druids and Shamans begin to seal the wound)
    6. Upon returning to Azeroth we have the greatest weapon smiths build us temporary weapons for the battle to come
    7. Upon arriving to Zandalar/Kul Tiras we get questing greens/blues and so on, the old weapon system.
    So, after the first time you kill Argus, you give up your artifact? There's practically 12 months between the time you kill Argus to when the expansion will even release. Just gonna punch things to death until then?

    What about, like, the year we have ahead of us? People would be complaining about that, just like everything else.

    They did the best they could.

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    Heeey! My main man Theryn!

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorrum View Post
    Yeah just move to WOD draenor honestly.

    Serious question though: Do we get to keep the appearances we've unlocked as transmog choices for future weapons?
    Yes.. Mage tower has to be done and balance of power has to be done (Not the balance of power quest)..

    it be nice if they gave us our weapons as BoA (just without the AP and what not) or even reset everything (as well as rework the artifacts.. kinda like artifact 2.0) and let us use it in BFA .. but i know lots of us HATED the way they work.. only thing i really like and will miss is the fact they removed EVERY Weapon in legion (you now what i mean)... guess its back to compairing weapons and bla bla bla
    Last edited by Noix; 2017-12-04 at 06:37 PM.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorrum View Post
    Yeah just move to WOD draenor honestly.

    Serious question though: Do we get to keep the appearances we've unlocked as transmog choices for future weapons?
    Yes.

    I am curious though, so what happens if we take the Dark Portal to Alternate Draenor and then fashion a ship and fly to alternate Azeroth?

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Baneleaf View Post
    Has anyone seen or heard what happens with our order halls. I know the garrison gold making was nerfed because you actually never had to leave your garrison if you set it up properly. However the gold from an order hall can be significant but it takes a decent amount of work to set up. I mainly want to find out if it is going to get nerfed into the ground or if it will remain viable going forward, along with the rogue pick pocket weekly.
    fairly certain they'll get rid of them....I'm really hoping they do, I don't want to be doing legion order hall missions in bfa. I know it's a choice but free money is free money

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