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    Grappling Hook as baseline ability - BFA

    Apparently grappling hook will become a baseline rogue ability in the next expansion. Pretty stoked about this, rogues will remain hated in pvp haha.

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    Baseline for Outlaw, not all rogues. It was mentioned at one of the Blizzcon panels I think - or maybe it was the post Blizzcon Q&A stream...

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    Yeah, baseline for Outlaw confirmed. The CD is 1min tho, but we get a passive talent which reduces the CD to 30 sec.

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    Ah my bad, I was under the impression it would be for all rogues. This is great that it opens up more options on talents though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask View Post
    Baseline for Outlaw, not all rogues. It was mentioned at one of the Blizzcon panels I think - or maybe it was the post Blizzcon Q&A stream...
    Ah, thank the lords of coin. Was getting scared that one of the main reasons I was Outlaw, was to be shared with the other speccs soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manboiler View Post
    Yeah, baseline for Outlaw confirmed. The CD is 1min tho, but we get a passive talent which reduces the CD to 30 sec.
    Damnit! And here I was hoping I was gonna have my cake and eat it too (Grappling hook & passive movement speed). Bummer.

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    In my mind, Grappling Hook's just our version of Shadowstep.

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    When I played the BfA demo at blizzcon, Grappling Hook was baseline for Outlaw only. I can't remember what was in its place since we only had short periods to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakyap View Post
    When I played the BfA demo at blizzcon, Grappling Hook was baseline for Outlaw only. I can't remember what was in its place since we only had short periods to play.
    Instead you get a talent that reduces GH's cd to 30 sec, while baseline is now 1min.

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    I love hook so yes plz, baseline.

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    I've never tried outlaw yet tbh (combat for life, down with pirates!), but as long as I can keep Shadow Step on the other 2 specs, I'll live.

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    I don't use grappling hook b/c it feels awkward to use. I'm leveling as Outlaw in Legion rn on my Rogue alt - it's pretty fun - but he survivability seems less than with old Combat.
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    So roll the bones will still bein BFA? Well...darn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karry View Post
    So roll the bones will still bein BFA? Well...darn it.
    I love it. I know it won't ever be balanced at high end the same way a flat buff like SnD can be, but I love the class fantasy around it. I think the ability hints at the potential for slightly different play and rotational focus based on the different buffs you might randomly generate, and I hope they start to dig into that concept more.

    Though I imagine they'll maybe just start adding some of the artifact weapon passives to the weaker buffs, which will once again slightly disappoint me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    I don't use grappling hook b/c it feels awkward to use. I'm leveling as Outlaw in Legion rn on my Rogue alt - it's pretty fun - but he survivability seems less than with old Combat.
    Its very useful for raiding. A skilled rogue with a grappling hook can completely negate Varimathras' charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seethe View Post
    Its very useful for raiding. A skilled rogue with a grappling hook can completely negate Varimathras' charge.
    shadow step says hi btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karry View Post
    So roll the bones will still bein BFA? Well...darn it.
    Restless blades + Loaded Dice had make RtB far more powerful and consistent than before (in 4 full Antorus runs i never reroll once... and before that i always have to reroll, several times a fight, when i was Outlaw in 7.1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daille View Post
    Restless blades + Loaded Dice had make RtB far more powerful and consistent than before (in 4 full Antorus runs i never reroll once... and before that i always have to reroll, several times a fight, when i was Outlaw in 7.1)
    Loaded Dice is turning into a talent on the final row with Slice and Dice and Marked for Death. It may be a dead talent.

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