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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Only reason I compared was the fact that when masses starts, well, massing. The general reason for them to mass tends to be the ones punished.
    Yeah, I hear what you are saying, I mean he could speak where I live and truth be told I would never know because I don't care, that being said I can very much understand how someone feels, placing certain attitudes and ideas especially unchecked, that can linger long after the circus has left town.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Technically should be a fine on the act itself if it masses crowd that disrupts the area. The accident though, would change the matter and it would end up being the government.
    Why the government just curious. I mean personally i recognize it as an accident, or better yet like when U2 decided to hold a free concert on top of a roof in I believe it was L.A, I mean I know they mean well, but could you imagine the hell that probably created for people unexpectedly freaking out.

    But as I said doesn't matter who it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Though, now you make the event into an accident area, that is where insurance covers on that. Which is a little bump on the case of Milo having to pay a fine when insurances of the people who had things broken, should've covered but that isn't how things always goes.
    I see what you mean, but I think there something to be said for a calculated move vs one that happens off the fly, if that makes sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    True but many people can be considered so, depending on what side you look on. I mean, if it stood to me, he shouldn't have to pay for what cavemen can't control. Police should've gotten a blue service card and taken down anyone starting to show hostile reactions - but sadly not how it works.
    Not really, man speakers come to campuses that are controversial and people have protested, just not like this, I wouldn't put that as being a normal state of things.
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    So if neo nazis riot over some far left speaker, that speaker will be fined?
    You're getting exactly what you deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    This is a joke, the Left are a joke especially here in Australia. The leftist media have labelled Milo a racist, bigoted Nazi sympathizer, completely ignoring that he is a Jewish homosexual married to a black man. This is all about silencing him because they cannot defeat him with arguments. Welcome to the new silencing tactics of the left, if they can't shut you up with shaming tactics they will try to silence you economically.
    He's not a Jew. There's plenty of gay Nazis. Sucking black dick doesn't mean you're not a Nazi. Fascists make plenty of mental dissonances.

    As for arguments

    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    It disgusts me that most of the leftist clowns in this forum actually think this is a good thing. If any of you have even the slightest regard for freedom of speech then you should equally be as appalled as I am. Whether you agree with Milo's opinions or not is completely irrelevant.
    Was his speech curbed? He had his little talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemposs View Post
    It was a joke, I do fully understand the reasoning behind this, we have the same thing in my country.
    Oh, ok. Sorry but you never can tell in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The One Percent View Post
    So if neo nazis riot over some far left speaker, that speaker will be fined?
    Nah, the left doesn't want Nazi rioters there. Milo wants protests. Makes him money.

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    He's not a Nazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    He's not a Jew. There's plenty of gay Nazis. Sucking black dick doesn't mean you're not a Nazi. Fascists make plenty of mental dissonances.
    Yeah, I bet there were plenty of Nazis in homosexual interracial marriages in Germany during the 1930s.
    You're getting exactly what you deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The One Percent View Post
    So if neo nazis riot over some far left speaker, that speaker will be fined?
    Why would a speaker be fined for someone else's actions? But I would imagine that the far left speaker would be billed for the cost of policing the event and any rioters would be arrested. You known a little like what has happened with this case?!

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    I love how he gets fined because intolerant left wingers can't deal with opposing viewpoints and so they protest and riot.

    This is the equivalent of "but her skirt was too short."

    "Oh he says things I don't agree with so it's okay bad things happened to him."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    Yeah, I hear what you are saying, I mean he could speak where I live and truth be told I would never know because I don't care, that being said I can very much understand how someone feels, placing certain attitudes and ideas especially unchecked, that can linger long after the circus has left town.
    Of course, the tension lingers after a bit, which is where the part of me wants the protesters arrested before things goes bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    Why the government just curious. I mean personally i recognize it as an accident, or better yet like when U2 decided to hold a free concert on top of a roof in I believe it was L.A, I mean I know they mean well, but could you imagine the hell that probably created for people unexpectedly freaking out.

    But as I said doesn't matter who it is.
    Well, the government was due to your example. If a person dies, there's going to be biological hazards that is handled by the government until the sight just needs specialist cleaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    I see what you mean, but I think there something to be said for a calculated move vs one that happens off the fly, if that makes sense.
    To be honest, if we take it into protests, I rather have calculated protests than just a crowd of people turning loose on the topic and people about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    Not really, man speakers come to campuses that are controversial and people have protested, just not like this, I wouldn't put that as being a normal state of things.
    I have seen a few examples of protests from either side starting because either side has a public speech about their subject. It has become more often, which is why protests in the end needs to either get handled better or taken down fully.

    If people wants to chant their phrases and have signs and shit, that is okay and should be permitted without a price tag for anyone. But if people start going hostile like at some events, breaching personal comfort, that is where the police should go for the embers to prevent a blaze. And fines should be on the protester, doesn't matter if they believe the speaker is bullshitting, that can be announced by using a few more cells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The One Percent View Post
    Yeah, I bet there were plenty of Nazis in homosexual interracial marriages in Germany during the 1930s.
    Ernst Röhm was gay. Plenty of Nazis fucked Jews.

    Plenty of misogynists are married to women. Plenty of racists suck black dick. Dissonance is powerful, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    I love how he gets fined because intolerant left wingers can't deal with opposing viewpoints and so they protest and riot.

    This is the equivalent of "but her skirt was too short."

    "Oh he says things I don't agree with so it's okay bad things happened to him."
    Crude but sadly how it translates to me as well.
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    He's still not a Nazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    I love how he gets fined because intolerant left wingers can't deal with opposing viewpoints and so they protest and riot.

    This is the equivalent of "but her skirt was too short."

    "Oh he says things I don't agree with so it's okay bad things happened to him."
    You comparing Nazis and rape victims? Low, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Why would a speaker be fined for someone else's actions? But I would imagine that the far left speaker would be billed for the cost of policing the event and any rioters would be arrested. You known a little like what has happened with this case?!
    Highlighted contradicts the rest of your statement, but alright.
    You're getting exactly what you deserve.

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    Something they would never do to an Islamic hate preacher. He will refuse to pay, and he shouldn't have to pay it.

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    How to turn it around: The protesters were homophobes attempting to stem the speech of a gay man

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    I love how he gets fined because intolerant left wingers can't deal with opposing viewpoints and so they protest and riot.

    This is the equivalent of "but her skirt was too short."

    "Oh he says things I don't agree with so it's okay bad things happened to him."
    You know a little of reading of the article linked in the OP would go a long way to avoiding making inaccurate and poorly informed statements such as that? He was not fined nor were the organisers billed because people cannot deal with opposing views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Oh, ok. Sorry but you never can tell in this forum.
    I even put a smiley on the end of it, but yeah it is hard to tell some times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The One Percent View Post
    Highlighted contradicts the rest of your statement, but alright.
    Does it? How so? You do realise that no-one has been fined for anyone else's actions?

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