Does this kill the chances of Allied Races in 7.3.5?

[adamzz]

I'd say the information that you need to be level 120 to unlock them has killed the chances pretty early...

Source on level 120 requirement to unlock them?

[Teri]

I cannot honestly comprehend why you people think this will be an acceptable way to handle unlocking allied races.

You still gotta buy BfA for Allied races, pre-orders just allow it to be sooner then launch.

Nothing different from Demon hunters, which you cannot play without buying Legion.

Pre-order bonus are only bad when it's exclusive content, and not even Legion had that, early access isn't the same.

Bad marketing = "pre order to get your limited time (insert item/mount/transmog)" and that's not what people are suggesting at all.

[Segus1992]

About time seeing such a post, basically a warning that people should take datamining with a grain of salt.

Alternatively it's telling people that datamining is too powerful a tool, so they have to throw in some curveballs to confuse us.

You don't always have to defend Blizzard, you know.

[Lochton]

Alternatively it's telling people that datamining is too powerful a tool, so they have to throw in some curveballs to confuse us.

You don't always have to defend Blizzard, you know.

Bwahaha, this ain't about defending them. This is about fans who tends to become outraged because they saw something in the data mining that wasn't even meant to be available right away. It is by warning from dataminers that you should take every result with a grain of salt. There has been examples in every expansion cycle of things people reacted on that was revealed, just to be shown, it wasn't to be implemented how they thought it was.

Ain't always about curve balls but some people can't handle too much information and then when they realize, it isn't there yet, they tend to become rather... uncomfortable?

Take note, I am not disagreeing on the races being available in 7.3.5, nor fighting the chances - I wouldn't mind it but I know not to trust data mining 100%.

[Deleted]

Source on level 120 requirement to unlock them?

Wasn't it stated on one of the initial Blizzcon pannels that you basically need to complete the BfA story-lines before you can head to the recruitement hall of your faction (SW,Org)?

I'd be all game for early access, like we had it with DH, but IMO it's far more likely that they are currently rushing these races to the PTR without this requirement in order to get more people to test the new leveling to 110-speed and such.

[Deleted]

I see them being playable in March at worst. That is if you preorder BfA.

[Aoyi]

I don't think the Allied Races are a part of 7.3.5, but I do think they'll be offered as part of the pre-order incentive. I believe that once you pre-order the expansion, you'll be able to access the allied races in the pre-patch to the expansion and everyone else will have to wait for release to use them. That likely means you'd only have access to them a couple weeks to a month early.

[Scottyjscizzle]

i'd say the three legion races will launch in the pre-patch as a pre-purchase incentive.

[Ealyssa]

Allied races have now a 99% chance of being a BfA pre-order unlock. The heartsone datamined back hint that way : pre-order is near and blizzard need an incentive for subscriber to order it asap. With no new classes the new races are the only things left.

IMO they will be in 7.3.5 but only unlocked when pre purchased will be available.

[david0925]

It makes a lot of sense financially to make allied race playable in conjunction with the leveling changes, especially if you bundle it with BfA preorder

1. It promotes sales for people that want to play the allied races, even if BfA doesn't look that appealing to them
2. It keeps people subbed, especially those that likes re-leveling and playing alts, during content drought that usually follows the end of every expansion.

It just makes too much sense to have them on, or shortly after, 7.3.5 release.

[Leih]

I feel like the most telling thing it they have 4 of the races almost fully implemented already in 7.3.5 and the other two (Zandalari and Dark Iron) are much much less developed at this point and barely appearing in the files.

That strongly suggests that the first four will appear at some point earlier than the other two. At the very least, the campaign quests datamined for the unlocking indicates that the first four races will be unlocked at 110 *before* we go to the BFA zones and level to 120, which the other two races are not.

[PepperjackJig]

Wasn't it stated on one of the initial Blizzcon pannels that you basically need to complete the BfA story-lines before you can head to the recruitement hall of your faction (SW,Org)?

I'd be all game for early access, like we had it with DH, but IMO it's far more likely that they are currently rushing these races to the PTR without this requirement in order to get more people to test the new leveling to 110-speed and such.

Yes, for Dark Iron and Zandalari, but the other ones don't require that.

[spleen1015]

The BfA card back is added the Hearthstone yesterday. It will most certainly be a pre-order bonus for BfA. So, that tells me pre-orders are soon. Soon being Jan or Feb since those card backs were added as well.

With the preorder being that soon and everything being in 7.3.5 for the allied races, I'm in the camp the allied races will be a pre-order bonus. It makes no sense to release the level scaling and not give us a reason to use it. Allied races are coming before BfA, before 8.0, but not likely with 7.3.5 release. They are a BfA feature so you're going to have to buy BfA to use them.

We'll see.

Does anyone know if you'll still get the heritage armor if you use the RAF bonus to level? I assume you do but I want to make sure. That's how I plan to level all 4 races.

[Montanahax]

We are gonna get allied races just like we got demon hunter, on lunch day for everyone and on 7.3.5 for those who preorder BfA

[Trend]

I'm sorry, but preorder bonuses like this shit and the demon hunter opener in Legion is hyper trash. Stop giving these AAA developers reasons for you to preorder a title that they haven't even finished development nor you have any idea what the finished product will be.

You tip your stupidity pretty early by referring to Blizzard as AAA developers. You may want to hold off on idiotic statements and slowly build up to them in the future. In any case, I am 100% definitely playing the next expansion, assuming I am alive and conscious. When WoW expansions stop being things I enjoy, I'll stop pre-ordering them.

I get it, people who play WoW are classically not good with their money, but these preorder bonuses and lootcrate real money transactions are just apart of the new-wave of AAA developers demanding more and more while giving consumers less and less. Blizzard is just as guilty of this as EA or any of the other AAA gaming companies, even the ones that avoided publishing misses this year.

If you get this triggered over a little pre-order, I certainly question your finances. You should probably be working on improving your logic and communication skills so you can get a decent job instead of spending time posting on forums.

As for me, the tiny percentage of my income that goes towards gaming isn't something to get all riled up about. I've been playing Blizzard games since 1997 and I've never regretted a purchase. As long as that stays true, I will not hesitate to pre-order.

[Tripzzz]

Wasn't it stated on one of the initial Blizzcon pannels that you basically need to complete the BfA story-lines before you can head to the recruitement hall of your faction (SW,Org)?

I'd be all game for early access, like we had it with DH, but IMO it's far more likely that they are currently rushing these races to the PTR without this requirement in order to get more people to test the new leveling to 110-speed and such.

The achievements for the 4 datamined races' armor sets require leveling to 110 not 120 to unlock them. Zandalari and dark iron require BfA storyline since they are tied to Zandalar and Kul'tiras. Nightborne highmountain lightforged and void elves are from legion content.

"Earn level 110 on a newly created Nightborne/Highmountain/Lightforged/Voidelf character."

http://www.wowhead.com/news=277412/7...d-achievements

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

Does the fact that they are an announced feature of 8.0 kill the chances? NO OF COURSE NOT!

[Queen of Hamsters]

Well, was there ever any confirmation that they WOULD be made available in 7.3.5...?

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I cannot honestly comprehend why you people think this will be an acceptable way to handle unlocking allied races.

I'm sorry, but preorder bonuses like this shit and the demon hunter opener in Legion is hyper trash. Stop giving these AAA developers reasons for you to preorder a title that they haven't even finished development nor you have any idea what the finished product will be.

I get it, people who play WoW are classically not good with their money, but these preorder bonuses and lootcrate real money transactions are just apart of the new-wave of AAA developers demanding more and more while giving consumers less and less. Blizzard is just as guilty of this as EA or any of the other AAA gaming companies, even the ones that avoided publishing misses this year.

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I'm beginning to think a lot of you people are Blizzard employees shit posting from alt accounts to skew public opinion one way on fan websites and that's why nothing ever gets done at Blizzard HQ: everyone spends all day shit posting. It fundamentally explains anti-flight, vanilla purists and a lot of the other 'toxic but necessary' forum-goers.

#metatheory

Salty much?

Stick with your superior version, why are you so bothered by what Live players do and don't?
And people paying for WoW are paying for some of the best value on the market. 12 euro for unlimited access to a AAA-game that can even be paid for by using in-game currency? Woah, such a financial trap!!!

But of course, you'd need to be a reasonable human being to realize that.

[Teri]

Well, was there ever any confirmation that they WOULD be made available in 7.3.5...?

They wouldn't seperate 4 races from the other 2 if they didn't have plans with it, why would it be on PTR 7.3.5 which isn't a pre-patch.

If it were a proper pre patch we'd see a lot more dark iron/zandalari info as well, but we know those won't be unlocked until the new continents.

[Queen of Hamsters]

They wouldn't seperate 4 races from the other 2 if they didn't have plans with it, why would it be on PTR 7.3.5 which isn't a pre-patch.

"They wouldn't"...

I'm not saying it can't be the case, but players with absolutely zero insight saying "they wouldn't" or "they would" is sort of redundant. I'm hoping it'll be the case that they give us early access to these races to promote people leveling them before BfA releases, but it could happen in 7.3.5 or perhaps a patch after that, or the pre-patch to BfA.