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    Remember Dec 7 (American Rememberance Day)



    National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. Remember December 7, 1941
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungeebungee View Post


    National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. Remember December 7, 1941
    Never been to the Arizona memorial, I would think it would be sad to visit it. Knowing right below you is the remains of many sailors. America got lucky that day. With the Carriers out to sea. However, they would still have eventually won the war because of their tremendous manufacturing potential. WW2 was the last war the US was united in winning.

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    Remember Hiroshima too

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    So basically, National Let's Finally Get Off Our Ass And Fight Hitler Because Our Immediate Interests Were Threatened Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    So basically, National Let's Finally Get Off Our Ass And Fight Hitler Because Our Immediate Interests Were Threatened Day.
    Thanks Japan. Then thanks Hitler for declaring war on the US since techically if he hadn't it would have been a hard case for congress to declear on Germany than because you know then.. Congress still had the power and balls to have to do those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    So basically, National Let's Finally Get Off Our Ass And Fight Hitler Because Our Immediate Interests Were Threatened Day.
    Well, up until then, America didn't think it was their business to get involved in a war occurring on the other side of the globe. There is plenty of that sentiment now, too, with many countries and people alike complaining about how America now is off that couch and regularly involving itself in the affairs of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Well, up until then, America didn't think it was their business to get involved in a war occurring on the other side of the globe. There is plenty of that sentiment now, too, with many countries and people alike complaining about how America now is off that couch and regularly involving itself in the affairs of others.
    They didn't think twice about what was their business when they rescued all those nazi scientists from answering for their crimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Remember Hiroshima too
    but how dare you! Americans were the true victims, throwing nukes unto civilians was 100% justified. That's the way these people think. It's adorable really, yes pearl harbor was horrible, but pales in comparison to what the US did later and in later wars.

    And let's not forget how eager the americans were to employ nazi's completely wiping their criminal records because of the knowledge.

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    It should be called National burn in hell FDR day for letting the attack happen. Frigging communist/globalist shill he was.

    don't dare say "conspiracy theory" there is documentation that he knew, moved our fleet out and sacrificed lives letting it happen.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...se-attack.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bithamster View Post
    but how dare you! Americans were the true victims, throwing nukes unto civilians was 100% justified. That's the way these people think. It's adorable really, yes pearl harbor was horrible, but pales in comparison to what the US did later and in later wars.

    And let's not forget how eager the americans were to employ nazi's completely wiping their criminal records because of the knowledge.
    And what the us did pales in comparison to the 14 million chinese civilians the japanese killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Well, up until then, America didn't think it was their business to get involved in a war occurring on the other side of the globe. There is plenty of that sentiment now, too, with many countries and people alike complaining about how America now is off that couch and regularly involving itself in the affairs of others.
    Its the common story. Do nothing the world complains that we do nothing. Do something the world complains that we do something. I mean it pretty much happened in Syria. World screamed for a decade that we are war mongers that fight all these wars blah blah blah and then we don't go fight one and suddenly we are lazy just sitting around letting bad stuff happening.

    Oh well at least the grand European combined army can handle its own world policing now right.. right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    And what the us did pales in comparison to the 14 million chinese civilians the japanese killed.
    Numbers may differ but atrocities committed are just on par

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsc View Post
    It should be called National burn in hell FDR day for letting the attack happen. Frigging communist/globalist shill he was.

    don't dare say "conspiracy theory" there is documentation that he knew, moved our fleet out and sacrificed lives letting it happen.
    No, no, he didn't let it happen, he put into place policy that was intended to force Japan to attack the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Well, up until then, America didn't think it was their business to get involved in a war occurring on the other side of the globe. There is plenty of that sentiment now, too, with many countries and people alike complaining about how America now is off that couch and regularly involving itself in the affairs of others.
    And they held so very firm to that line when they gave stuff to the UK and the Soviet Union before this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Remember Hiroshima too
    Hey

    Nobody wants you here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    Its the common story. Do nothing the world complains that we do nothing. Do something the world complains that we do something. I mean it pretty much happened in Syria. World screamed for a decade that we are war mongers that fight all these wars blah blah blah and then we don't go fight one and suddenly we are lazy just sitting around letting bad stuff happening.

    Oh well at least the grand European combined army can handle its own world policing now right.. right?
    Intent is everything. Are you messing with countries for their own benefit out of your benevolence or are you messing with them out of your own interests just to take advantage of whatever they might be able to offer you out of hardship that you can use and gain something from while propping up corruption..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    And what the us did pales in comparison to the 14 million chinese civilians the japanese killed.
    You might end up getting reported. This is suppose to turn into a nation bash against the US. Nazi death camps and Japanese death squads were far better alternatives because honestly no one here really had to deal with them. Instead they had to deal with the terror of the US giving them KFC and McDonalds. The golden light glow of those arches haunt many of the world to this day.

    I mean it would have been better we just invaded Japan directly and lost a 500k to a million troops on our side and likely most if not all the Japanese army and many, many, many more civilians in the final battles just to not use the nuclear weapons. Of course maybe now in the future we know that it was possible they would have surrendered or given up without the use of the weapons. Amazing what you can do and know like 80 years after the fact with all the documents of both sides and years of study. Or how little it matters while 100s if not 1000s of people are dying daily while you sit around and hope for a peaceful solution at the the end of the greatest war the world has ever known.

    Russians should have clearly just surrounded Berlin and not attacked it. It cost to many lives on the German side. So many rapes. So many murders. The Germans could have struck a deal if they were given time right. I mean at that point the war was over right? It was eventual. But it seemed like their lust for revenge and desire for political and territorial power trumped it. Which also played a role in what the US did to Japan as well. Welcome to how the world really works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaexion Ramza Beoulve View Post
    Hey

    Nobody wants you here.
    Funny, that's probably what the Coreans Vietnamese Afghans Iraqi Syrians and many others said

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    Can we just remember all those who lost their lives in the calamity of WWII? Or is that too edgy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    You might end up getting reported. This is suppose to turn into a nation bash against the US. Nazi death camps and Japanese death squads were far better alternatives because honestly no one here really had to deal with them. Instead they had to deal with the terror of the US giving them KFC and McDonalds. The golden light glow of those arches haunt many of the world to this day.

    I mean it would have been better we just invaded Japan directly and lost a 500k to a million troops on our side and likely most if not all the Japanese army and many, many, many more civilians in the final battles just to not use the nuclear weapons. Of course maybe now in the future we know that it was possible they would have surrendered or given up without the use of the weapons. Amazing what you can do and know like 80 years after the fact with all the documents of both sides and years of study. Or how little it matters while 100s if not 1000s of people are dying daily while you sit around and hope for a peaceful solution at the the end of the greatest war the world has ever known.

    Russians should have clearly just surrounded Berlin and not attacked it. It cost to many lives on the German side. So many rapes. So many murders. The Germans could have struck a deal if they were given time right. I mean at that point the war was over right? It was eventual. But it seemed like their lust for revenge and desire for political and territorial power trumped it. Which also played a role in what the US did to Japan as well. Welcome to how the world really works.
    Very easy to spot the people in this thread who hold anti-american sentiment or american guilt.

    The nukes were necessary and should not be apologized for. It was needed, and a fine alternative to a exceptionally bloody and costly invasion of Japan.

    We did warn them, and they refused to do anything even after the first dropped.

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    Funny, that's probably what the Coreans Vietnamese Afghans Iraqi Syrians and many others said
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bithamster View Post
    but how dare you! Americans were the true victims, throwing nukes unto civilians was 100% justified. That's the way these people think. It's adorable really, yes pearl harbor was horrible, but pales in comparison to what the US did later and in later wars.

    And let's not forget how eager the americans were to employ nazi's completely wiping their criminal records because of the knowledge.
    If you think that is terrible I would suggest staying ignorant of the firebombings that killed more people, The estimated death toll if Truman had decided to go with Operation Downfall instead of dropping the bomb. Also I would try to steer clear of facts like Hiroshima and Nagasaki were valid military targets given their industrial departments churning out weapons for the war effort and the pamphlet bombing runs informing citizens that America has a great and terrible weapon if you can leave the city you should leave the city. And whatever you do please under any circumstance do not research Unit 731.

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