Another day and another American Nation bashing thread allowed on MMOC.
Stay classy.
Another day and another American Nation bashing thread allowed on MMOC.
Stay classy.
Exactly. They conveniently ignore the "fight to the last person" order the Emperor gave, which would have cost Allied lives in the hundred's of thousands as well as killing more civilians than the two atomic bombs we dropped.
But reality is typically lost on the revisionist historians who think the atomic bombs weren't necessary.
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Conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum.
It's cute how Europeans think they would have beat the Nazis without the US. Sucks that you got your shit pushed in bros, just accept it and thank us for bailing you out then, and babysitting you all these years after. Funny, as soon as we step back from Europe after communism fell, you let yourselves be invaded by Muslims.
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No, absent the copious military aid supplied to the soviets, Hitler would have either captured or destroyed almost the entirety of soviet industrial capacity.
If the US had said, not getting involved, (in any way) Hitler would have won on the eastern and the western fronts.
Exactly, and I guess some of us are concerned with the mentality where you can get really upset over a few thousand casualties in an attack (Pearl Harbor or 9/11), then blindly worship uniform while forgetting completely the hundreds of thousands of casualties that result from the response that isn't at all measured.
Especially today, when Kim may just do something stupid, and then the retarded monkey that is the PotUS currently does yet another response that isn't at all measured, and nukes entire North Korea and kills millions of civilians. We might want to look back and remember the past, being that it's a day of remembrance and all, and try not to do just that.
Did anyone say "we forgot how many died"? You came in here and said "why should you pay respects to your people who died, when all these other people died". What the fuck kind of response is that? We also lost another quarter of a million military personnel after Japan sucked us into the war. Civilians are unfortunately collateral damage, because their government wanted to attack us, but that's our fault? Not theirs? If you dont want youre people to die, dont start the fucking war in the first place.
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Very true, were all pretty lucky he didnt know how to listen to his Generals.
Did you not get the memo? You are attempting to superimpose a modern idea of measured response on the historical context -- Japan declared war. By those rules, it was "last man standing" and not imposing crushing terms of surrender in the WWI style was forward looking.Originally Posted by Sydänyö
You are also attempting to say "well, Finland ...". Finland didn't act with greater strength and aggressiveness because in the scale of WWII, although they mounted a politically skillful and brave defense of their territory, they just didn't have the military force to go much further than they did. You are like a Yorkie threatening to rip someone's throat out.
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