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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    Huh?
    Most successful marriages are exactly what I just detailed. Aim high bud. Don't settle for mediocrity.
    Most succesful marriages, sure. But most relationships crash and burn before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halloaa View Post
    Importing people and putting them on welfare wont solve the problem. Just look at Denmark.
    Look at what? your fantasy Aint a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    Huh?
    Most successful marriages are exactly what I just detailed. Aim high bud. Don't settle for mediocrity.
    Most successful marriages... Marriage is at an all time low and getting lower. Divorce is at an all time high and steadily increasing.

    Aim high? No, just dont get married.

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    Stop killing off women's careers as soon as they're over 20. Accept stay-at-home dads.

    Problem solved...if it weren't for the rigid as fuck societal/culture shite they have going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halloaa View Post
    Do you expect that japan is able to put people that does not speak japanese or english to work?

    I dont mind immigration, but people coming to be on welfare. If you have a job lined up, you should just be able to come here.
    It's the reality of their situation. Plus lets be real. There's a lot of anime fans who can speak some japanese. It's not that hard for them to put in the effort to be conversational. They can start off with jobs which require less use of japanese anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    The reward of love and lifelong companionship isn't worth it. Heard it here first folks.
    Some people don't value that over their own life-pursuits in terms of job/career, etc.

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    I just want my company to book me the same room!
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterBeast View Post
    Look at what? your fantasy Aint a fact.
    Look at the net 32billion DKK we spend every year on non-western immigration. Or maybe all the visitation popping up because immigrant gangs are fighting each other?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    It's the reality of their situation. Plus lets be real. There's a lot of anime fans who can speak some japanese. It's not that hard for them to put in the effort to be conversational. They can start off with jobs which require less use of japanese anyways.
    Well, they dont work in Denmark. Hat off to Japan if they can make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    Stop killing off women's careers as soon as they're over 20. Accept stay-at-home dads.

    Problem solved...if it weren't for the rigid as fuck societal/culture shite they have going on.
    That's like saying "Make women work as hard as men and accept unpaid overtime and super-competitive environments at work as well as desire to do work-related stuff outside of work, problem solved as far as lack of women representation goes!"

    ...most people are not wired that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    That's like saying "Make women work as hard as men and accept unpaid overtime and super-competitive environments at work as well as desire to do work-related stuff outside of work, problem solved as far as lack of women representation goes!"

    ...most people are not wired that way.
    No, that's another discussion. The women don't want to be tied down with marriage, so they choose careers over it. Doesn't mean work environments both for men or women are ideal...but that's what they choose to do. So, as a start, accepting stay-at-home dads and working women/moms is something.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    Funny how you assume that anyone who comes to Japan goes on welfare. That's really racist. In Canada and the U.S. some of the best and brightest are immigrants.
    Didn't take you long you play the race card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    certainly show me date claiming otherwise

    without this its nothing bus bs claims of rasisit alt-rrights who base their political carrier on nithing else but fear of unknown and rasism


    Even after 15 years of residing in Sweden it's about 65% for labor migrants, just 60% for EU migrants, relatives, refugees and relatives to refugees are at 35% after 15 years. Labor migrants are at 50% the first year. Refugees are at like 5%, after 2 years like 10%.

    Your 80-90% is wishful thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    No, that's another discussion. The women don't want to be tied down with marriage, so they choose careers over it. Doesn't mean work environments both for men or women are ideal...but that's what they choose to do. So, as a start, accepting stay-at-home dads and working women/moms is something.
    It is part of same issue - just like with jobs not many man actually want to be stay-at-home dads, nor do they necessarily well emotionally equipped for first year or two.

    Many can do that if necessary, it's not something sex-exclusive; not many want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    It is part of same issue - just like with jobs not many man actually want to be stay-at-home dads, nor do they necessarily well emotionally equipped for first year or two.

    Many can do that if necessary, it's not something sex-exclusive; not many want to.
    Yet jobs are still the preferred choice for many women over being caged up in a marriage and just popping out kids. That's the bottom line.

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    While Japanese culture is stifled and definitely in trouble, population decline is a good thing and would be a good thing for all future generations of human on planet Earth.

    Less people = less demand for climate altering energy/food sources and less want for environmental destruction like clearcutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Unless you give people an (monetary) incentive to have kids, I see this trend continuing.
    Just for the record, Japan's been doing this lately in the form of notable tax breaks and other benefits to combat their aging population problems. Another issue is that the whole NEET/Hikkikomori issue is growing due to shifting sensibilities in younger Japanese citizens and the pervasive stigma against psychology, leading to these youth cracking and becoming shut-ins whose parents are ill-equipped to help them work through their breakdown (and unwilling to seek outside help in all but the most extreme cases, because doing so is viewed as a failure on the parents' end to provide for their child and prepare them for the 'real world'). Then there's the pressure of Japan's Lost Decade coming to a close (if it every really was a thing, but that's economic theories beyond me) so younger workers are being pressured to focus on their careers in order to ensure the economic bounceback takes place and isn't temporary.

    There's a lot of factors at work and it all really boils down to how Japanese society is obsessed with saving face, maintaining the status quo for fear of being seen as a troublemaker, and elements of the growing rift between older generations and younger generations seen elsewhere in the modern, industrialized world. Nobody wants to pull the trigger, so to speak, that would push for some very uncomfortable growing pains in their society and political sphere, same as here in America albeit under different values/reasons/'rules.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    While Japanese culture is stifled and definitely in trouble, population decline is a good thing and would be a good thing for all future generations of human on planet Earth.

    Less people = less demand for climate altering energy/food sources and less want for environmental destruction like clearcutting.
    The problem is that Japan's population currently isn't sustainable. If their birth rates don't increase soon, their economy could collapse within the next few generations due to a lack of workers and a strict policy regarding immigration and migrant workers.
    Be seeing you guys on Bloodsail Buccaneers NA!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    Yet jobs are still the preferred choice for many women over being caged up in a marriage and just popping out kids. That's the bottom line.
    Most women have jobs in the western world but most of them also have kids, they make the time, it's in their biology. Any women in her 30s childless will tell you about the urge to have a kid, it's very primal. I wouldn't put the blame on the job that much, only alpha females are into career so hard that they might ignore biology telling them to have a kid, the rest will follow and have kids.

    I would say that the morality and virtues changed so some women that aren't alpha's but want to have kids find that they have a hard time finding a mate to marry and have a kid. State wants to fix it with welfare for single mothers, but it's tone at expense of the nuclear family, the best enviroment to raise a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Get some Muslims. I heard they have high birth rates.
    When you have so many accounts that you can't remember if you logged in on the Alt-Righter to throw jabs at Muslims or on the Anarchist account to bring down the city hall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    [snip]

    Do what we do, problem solved. We should swap about 8 million Mexicans for some more Chinese though. The US won't have a demographic problem for the next 50 years at least that means someone is going to pay for my old age pension.
    Replacement migration is a horrible idea all around, and Japan should remain Japanese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    Yet jobs are still the preferred choice for many women over being caged up in a marriage and just popping out kids. That's the bottom line.
    Preferred choice under which circumstances? Perhaps it is financial pressures that are making them forego having kids and focus on career?

    For example, in Russia there is a Maternity Capital program where you get payments for kids starting from second one. Substantial sum - about year and half of average wages. Statistics show that it works quite well.

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