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    Any Havoc guides?

    Do you guys have any havoc guides to share? I'm looking for one that includes rotations in AoE and single target situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twix View Post
    Do you guys have any havoc guides to share? I'm looking for one that includes rotations in AoE and single target situations.
    AOE Eye beam and Glaives on CD

    Single target POP cd's smash chaos strike a lot like a lot a lot. If using t20 also blade dance on CD on both AOE and ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yarafx1 View Post
    AOE Eye beam and Glaives on CD

    Single target POP cd's smash chaos strike a lot like a lot a lot. If using t20 also blade dance on CD on both AOE and ST.
    Is T21 set bonus any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twix View Post
    Is T21 set bonus any good?
    If you don't have mythic t20 its fine. The t20 Chaos / blade Nem is still best for single target or tied with 960 tier on single target encounters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yarafx1 View Post
    If you don't have mythic t20 its fine. The t20 Chaos / blade Nem is still best for single target or tied with 960 tier on single target encounters.
    any guide out there for t21 rotation? I'm assuming it changes a lot since Eye Beam will be used in single target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twix View Post
    any guide out there for t21 rotation? I'm assuming it changes a lot since Eye Beam will be used in single target.
    Fel rush into boss, Demon's bite, nemesis Eye beam, spam chaos strike when meta drops, use meta - eye beam(to extend meta duration once) spam CS until meta drops, eye beam chaos strike more. etc.

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    1) PrePot (Prolonged Power)
    2) Felrush into Boss
    3) Demon's Bite for fury for eyebeam
    4) Nemesis
    5) Fury of the Ilidary
    6) Eyebeam
    7) Spam CS / Demon's Bite until 8seconds Buff is over
    8) Meta
    9) Eyebeam (for 25% haste buff and extended meta)
    10) Meta ends -> Eyebeam

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    How many targets does blade dance become worth using with t21? Or does it not ever beat CS because of CC and apetite

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    Chaos Cleave should always beat BladeDance.
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    set is crap

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    Should we delay second Meta in demonic T21 build for nemesis (3,5 min cd atm) or just use on CD and forget about pairirng with nemesis? Should Blade Dance be used with 5+ targets or just CS spam all day long?

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    hello my fellow demon hunters, I think I have a problem. As a talent I picked "demon blades" but there is something wrong, there come moments when all I have is on CD , meaning my "felblade" and "chaos strike", and nothing to generate fury with and in these moments I think I lose DPS, any advice on what to do ?

    thanks !

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    This is the whole system behind "demon blades" - you have moments where you spam Chaos Strike on do great dps. But you can also have downtimes
    Throw Glaive could be used then, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodyleech View Post
    This is the whole system behind "demon blades" - you have moments where you spam Chaos Strike on do great dps. But you can also have downtimes
    Throw Glaive could be used then, though.
    hi, ok thank you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockenberry View Post
    1) PrePot (Prolonged Power)
    2) Felrush into Boss
    3) Demon's Bite for fury for eyebeam
    4) Nemesis
    5) Fury of the Ilidary
    6) Eyebeam
    7) Spam CS / Demon's Bite until 8seconds Buff is over
    8) Meta
    9) Eyebeam (for 25% haste buff and extended meta)
    10) Meta ends -> Eyebeam

    Collect souls if needed.
    Any reason to wait for the 8 second buff is over to meta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramellan View Post
    Any reason to wait for the 8 second buff is over to meta?
    Can't extend Meta twice with eyebeam. Need to come out of eye beam meta first then use meta and then beam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Can't extend Meta twice with eyebeam. Need to come out of eye beam meta first then use meta and then beam.
    No you dont. You can meta straight after eyebeam, wait till the haste buff is gone, and eyebeam again and you'll have the full duration of meta+ the time of both eye beam metas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twix View Post
    Is T21 set bonus any good?
    Yes. I've had a noticeable jump in dps since equipping it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yarafx1 View Post
    If you don't have mythic t20 its fine. The t20 Chaos / blade Nem is still best for single target or tied with 960 tier on single target encounters.
    Do you have any data to back this up? Not being cocky, I'm genuinely asking. As I stated above, I've had quite a large dps increase switching to the new tier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azkial View Post
    No you dont. You can meta straight after eyebeam, wait till the haste buff is gone, and eyebeam again and you'll have the full duration of meta+ the time of both eye beam metas.

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    Yes. I've had a noticeable jump in dps since equipping it.

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    Do you have any data to back this up? Not being cocky, I'm genuinely asking. As I stated above, I've had quite a large dps increase switching to the new tier
    DPS increase maybe due to ilvl, if you could compare same ilvl hence "mythic t20" and normal or hc t21, t20 on ST will perform better.

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