What a f**cking day, at the NHS.

[Deleted]

Pretty much this, the emergency room is for emergencies. Doctors on call are for injuries that aren't this severe. It is even so that people that go to the emergency room for those type of injuries are the reason why emergency queue's are so long.

Not an NHS unique issue, there have been a few awareness campaigns around this but people still rush of the emergency room way too often.

Its a rant, no logical reasoning in my post. It was a looong day.

[Captain N]

Does your ER not have an Online Check-In?

Did that once for a broken toe -- had a 2 1/2 hour wait time and was told to show up in a certain window. Showed up on time and was seen 15 minutes later.

Now I understand that there may be a longer wait period for non-emergency medical procedures with NHS but I'd figure you'd at least have a system where you aren't required to actually wait in the hospital's ER.

[Deleted]

I rather pay then wait 7 hours with pain.

I don't think there are private a&e facilities in the UK. So suck it up princess.

[Deleted]

I rather pay then wait 7 hours with pain.

Ok money bags, not everyone can afford to pay £2k.

[Trassk]

The NHS rules.

you tried working for it? It really doesn't.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Pretty much this, the emergency room is for emergencies. Doctors on call are for injuries that aren't this severe. It is even so that people that go to the emergency room for those type of injuries are the reason why emergency queue's are so long.

Not an NHS unique issue, there have been a few awareness campaigns around this but people still rush of the emergency room way too often.

I was amazed to see just how many calls for AMBULANCE are made without actual need for it. Are people just completely void of self-awareness or something? Ambulances are for emergencies, life-threatening injuries and conditions, not for wittle Peter Pomfrey who stubbed is toe...

[sarahtasher]

Oh, wait, it's one of those threads were people pretend that non edgelords use the expression ''free healthcare'' instead of public healthcare.

[Deleted]

Ok money bags, not everyone can afford to pay £2k.

I really don't know where you got that 2k from...

[Ealyssa]

That poor snowflake

[Acidbaron]

Its a rant, no logical reasoning in my post. It was a looong day.

And rant you may, merely explaining it. I don't know how the GP system works in the UK. Here i can go whenever i want if it's urgent i get helped rather fast, if not i can make an appointment with my gp and i'll either go there and pay around 2 euro's or if i'm really to sick or for whatever reason i can go there i'll get a home visit somewhere during the day and pay a bit more.

But it's rather normal to wait that long for something not critical, it may hurt a lot but you won't die. So every time an emergency comes in with higher priority you get bumped down the line, where as you went to a doctor, you would probably get helped ahead of others, since you'll get priority on those sitting there with a cold.

[Deleted]

I really don't know where you got that 2k from...

That what it would cost if you compare it to the US system, there are no private British emergency hospitals so I used the best example. Actually £2k is pretty generous and assumes they will not charge you for things such as slings and wheelchair hire.

[Kelathos]

I do not believe these wait times are indicative of having taxes pay for healthcare costs.
If there are not enough medical providers in the system, then find a way to encourage more providers.

[Acidbaron]

I was amazed to see just how many calls for AMBULANCE are made without actual need for it. Are people just completely void of self-awareness or something? Ambulances are for emergencies, life-threatening injuries and conditions, not for wittle Peter Pomfrey who stubbed is toe...

To be honest, sometimes people panic and think it is worse than it is. I had to call an ambulance for my father once thinking he had a heart attack, basically he had a serious panic attack out of no where.

But it's one of those cases where you're better safe than sorry.

[Deleted]

I do not believe these wait times are indicative of having taxes pay for healthcare costs.
If there are not enough medical providers in the system, then find a way to encourage more providers.

Reason why I waited 7 hours was because there were actually 2 doctors present at that time. I kid you not. Its was wait 3 hours, go x ray, 1 hour then come back and wait in the 3 hour que again, with savage pain

[Toxsins]

Emergency care is always shit in every country. It's shit here in the United States, that's for sure. My mom went to the ER once for her knee swelling up and we basically sat in a hallway on a gurney for 6 hours until we finally just walked out. She went and saw her regular doctor the next day instead and got an X-Ray scheduled and done faster than going to the emergency room.

The ER is basically staffed by a bunch of overworked, underpaid doctors, many of whom are in training. The best doctors become surgeons - every other branch of medicine gets the leftovers and trainees.

[Deleted]

I rather pay then wait 7 hours with pain.

how much would you pay?

NHS prime - £3 back if you don't mind waiting

[PACOX]

hm..... yet you see people rave at how good free healthcare is xD. Id rather pay than be stuck for hours waiting for some doctor to see me.

hope you are ok bro!

Thats not a problem with free healthcare...Its called triage and being understaffed because hospital work has a high barrier of entry and turnaround due to the stress.

[Gaaz]

I really don't know where you got that 2k from...

A shoulder dislocation can be a serious injury and symptoms can include severe pain, swelling and an arm that appears to be slightly turned.
Typical costs:

Without health insurance, diagnosis and treatment for a dislocated shoulder typically includes the cost of the X-ray, a facility fee and a doctor fee for a typical total of less than $1,000 if anesthesia is not required up to $8,000 or more if anesthesia is required. A shoulder X-ray costs an average of $210, according to NewChoiceHealth.com[1] , but some providers charge $1,500 or more. Treatment of a dislocated shoulder without anesthesia costs about $400, not including the doctor fee, while treatment with anesthesia ranges from $2,400 to $8,700, not including the doctor fee, according to Saint Elizabeth Regional Medical Center[2] in Lincoln, Nebraska. A typical doctor fee could range from $250 to $950 for the procedure, according to Carolina Orthopaedic Surgery Associates

Additional costs:
A shoulder sling[5] , often used during the recovery process, can cost $30 to $80 or more. A shoulder brace[6] , which might be worn by an athlete whose shoulder was dislocated, can cost $30 to $50 or more.
Going to an emergency room for initial treatment could add an emergency room visit fee of $500 or more to the final bill.

I am not really sure I would want to risk it....

[Deleted]

how much would you pay?

dunno bro, never looked into it. In my life, I maybe used hospital 3 times, + regular dr checkups per 12 months, but thats not the hospital though.

[unbound]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

lol

Sounds about the same treatment you get in the US if you live in a metropolitan area. The first time I had a kidney stone (but didn't know what it was), I sat in an ER waiting area for over 2 hours in a lot of pain before getting a bed, only to wait another 30 or more minutes for them to stick an IV in me, and several more hours before they sent me for an Xray. By that point, the IV pushed enough fluid that the kidney stone passed before they could actually take the Xray.