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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    And if he campaigns well throughout all of 2018, or most of it, which he is talking about doing, the sheer amount of feel good stories about his enthusiastic crowds shouting out praise and admiration for him will drown out any memories of the Mueller investigation.
    There's a difference between his 2016 campaigning and the 2018 campaigning he will do: he can't run as an outsider. He has a record of incompetence and unpopularity that he's running on now, and all of the rapid successes he promised have not come to fruition. "I promise the wall will be build, believe me" can only work for so long.
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    The results were so close and it took Roy Moore being a pedophile even for that. I don't think its as big a victory as it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    The results were so close and it took Roy Moore being a pedophile even for that. I don't think its as big a victory as it seems.
    I don't think you understand that this happened in alabama, an evangelical state with a large portion of voters who think abortion is worse than pedophilia and has a much larger than regular population of bigots that vote R.

    Regardless, it's a seat that dems won't be defending in 2018. It means they need 2 seats in the senate instead of 3 to take the majority, a much easier prospect, even if they end up losing it in 2020 (as they likely will, because, again, alabama).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    The results were so close and it took Roy Moore being a pedophile even for that. I don't think its as big a victory as it seems.
    Its a massive victory. Trump won the state by 30 points. Do you understand how giant of a change that is? To overturn a 30 point advantage in a single year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Its a massive victory. Trump won the state by 30 points. Do you understand how giant of a change that is? To overturn a 30 point advantage in a single year?
    But it's more of a loss for Moore, than for the Republicans in general. All they have to do is run a non-pedophile candidate and they take the seat back. Remember that the difference between Moore and Jones was smaller than the number of Republican write in votes.
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    Last edited by Nihilist74; 2017-12-18 at 08:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilist74 View Post
    Who knew that they were talking about their own party not knowing where to draw the line!! /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    There's a difference between his 2016 campaigning and the 2018 campaigning he will do: he can't run as an outsider. He has a record of incompetence and unpopularity that he's running on now, and all of the rapid successes he promised have not come to fruition. "I promise the wall will be build, believe me" can only work for so long.
    He also can't campaign on the promise of becoming Presidential once he takes office.

    A lot of people were duped into that crazy idea a year ago, but no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    But it's more of a loss for Moore, than for the Republicans in general. All they have to do is run a non-pedophile candidate and they take the seat back. Remember that the difference between Moore and Jones was smaller than the number of Republican write in votes.
    In Alabama, yes. The reddest of the red states.
    But even before the pedophilia issue, Jones was running much stronger than any Democrat in recent Alabama history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Right -- not sure which thread I posted in but I did say that a year is a long time in political terms.
    It is and it isn't.

    We are closer now to the 2018 election date than the 2016 one. And people's passions are not dying down.
    Expect them to ramp up even more once the primaries and campaigning begin in earnest in just a few months.
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