Apple now demands devs display percentages on rates for all lockboxes in app store

[Elim Garak]

And it is not parents fault when their kid suddenly decide to go ham on their credit card. People dont hide their wallets from the family.
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Are you even for real?

It is parent's fault. They should not let their kids access their wallets. it's in THEIR fucking interest.

You are advocating for bad parenting here.

[segara82]

Are you even for real?

It is parent's fault. They should not let their kids access their wallets. it's in THEIR fucking interest.

You are advocating for bad parenting here.

Actually the parents are taking responsibility and are doing something 'in THEIR fucking interest'. They say 'Don't try to make my kid a gambling addict' and demand the removal of the lootboxes.
What is so bad about that?

[Elim Garak]

Actually the parents are taking responsibility and are doing something 'in THEIR fucking interest'. They say 'Don't try to make my kid a gambling addict' and demand the removal of the lootboxes.
What is so bad about that?

That's the opposite of taking responsibility. They blame others, let government handle it and continue to be lazy, bad parents. That's how we got into this situation in the first place and it will continue because their kids will be even worse parents.

[Kaleredar]

You dont have any idea what gambling is and isnt.

Lootbox games are designed to develop unhealthy spending habits.

That's up to the person.

And it is not parents fault when their kid suddenly decide to go ham on their credit card. People dont hide their wallets from the family.

If a child goes behind their parent's back like that, I'd most definitely say that's a parenting problem. Pending that the parent either gave their child their credit card information (irresponsible) or allowed their child to play a game that required their credit card, on hand, to play (also irresponsible)

Those are addiction inducing mechanics. System designed to prey on any vulnerable people, including childrens.

On all accounts people should, frankly, know better.


For all intents and purposes you're still arguing that gumball machines are gambling.

[Aliven]

Are you even for real?

It is parent's fault. They should not let their kids access their wallets. it's in THEIR fucking interest.

You are advocating for bad parenting here.

Nope, why father or mother should hide their money on purpose? That would be a sign the child had bad parents. If child know she cannot take it there is no point into hiding it. Bad parenting would be not asking why suddenly he stealed money. And not working this out.

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That's up to the person.



If a child goes behind their parent's back like that, I'd most definitely say that's a parenting problem. Pending that the parent either gave their child their credit card information (irresponsible) or allowed their child to play a game that required their credit card, on hand, to play (also irresponsible)



On all accounts people should, frankly, know better.


For all intents and purposes you're still arguing that gumball machines are gambling.

You can literaly destroy psyche of a human using only words. Every human on planet. Just need to know which lever to push. Psychology is very powerful tool and is proven to work on global scale. Your ignorance on the subject is not counter argument.

[Kaleredar]

Nope, why father or mother should hide their money on purpose? That would be a sign the child had bad parents. If child know she cannot take it there is no point into hiding it. Bad parenting would be not asking why suddenly he stealed money. And not working this out.

So you agree that a child stealing their parent's money is a sign of bad parenting.

So I refer to my previous point: a child stealing their parent's money is bad parenting, not "bad product design." Because you could say that about ANY product for which a child might be tempted to "steal money."

You can literaly destroy psyche of a human using only words. Every human on planet. Just need to know which lever to push. Psychology is very powerful tool and is proven to work on global scale. Your ignorance on the subject is not counter argument.

False, meet parallel.

We're talking about in-app lootbox purchases, not psychological domination.

[Teri]

Nope, why father or mother should hide their money on purpose? That would be a sign the child had bad parents. If child know she cannot take it there is no point into hiding it. Bad parenting would be not asking why suddenly he stealed money. And not working this out.

And if a parent links their Credit Card to their phone/Ipad or whatever and the Kid buys the $99.99 gem package/loot box in some game, it IS the parents fault, especially if the kid is like under 12.

[Elim Garak]

Nope, why father or mother should hide their money on purpose? That would be a sign the child had bad parents. If child know she cannot take it there is no point into hiding it. Bad parenting would be not asking why suddenly he stealed money. And not working this out.

What the fuck? You really don't know how kids are? They are not adults. They don't understand most things. You can tell them that using your credit card is wrong, but they would not understand what spending $10k is. To them it's just parents would get upset if they find out.

Also parents are responsible for every action their kids make, until they come of age.

[ls-]

Meh, it's too easy to circumvent such requirement. You simply stop selling loot boxes directly and start rewarding them for something else, for instance, a purchase of other items.

Unless they demand to disclose drop rates of literally everything, it's a pointless measure.

[SirBeef]

You dont have any idea what gambling is and isnt.

Lootbox games are designed to develop unhealthy spending habits. And it is not parents fault when their kid suddenly decide to go ham on their credit card. People dont hide their wallets from the family.

Those are addiction inducing mechanics. System designed to prey on any vulnerable people, including childrens.

Children should not have access to buying things on phones. If that is happening, then you need to take a long look at those parents. My daughter, 14, plays a few mobile games with microtransactions. She cannot buy anything with real money. No access to my credit card ever for that.

[kail]

You dont have any idea what gambling is and isnt.

Lootbox games are designed to develop unhealthy spending habits. And it is not parents fault when their kid suddenly decide to go ham on their credit card. People dont hide their wallets from the family.

Those are addiction inducing mechanics. System designed to prey on any vulnerable people, including childrens.

Your post just provides support that it is the parents' fault.