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    Didn't they try to make WoW into eSport in like WoTLK or something? That failed, no reason why new attempt shouldn't fail. Its just not fun to watch. Its much more fun to participate.

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    This forced business goes against the idea of making games to experience creative talent, and instead promote the idea of making meaningless games to be forgotten in an history of endless and pointless entertainment for generations to come. At least shows like AGDQ is showing historical and actually good games which is the point if there's one for the viewer. WoW deserves better.

    This was maybe a bit harsh to say, but I'll add that esport is meant to be a social thing, there's at least that, there's good in social sometimes, but doesn't have much to do with the value in video games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    Didn't they try to make WoW into eSport in like WoTLK or something? That failed, no reason why new attempt shouldn't fail. Its just not fun to watch. Its much more fun to participate.
    I'm not big on 3s as an e-sport but watching m+ would be like watching paint dry..

    Waaaaaayyyy less skill involved in m+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    M+ ain't bad but Arena is just "stun stun pillar hump stun pillar hump pillar hump stun oh he might die nevermind full hp pillar hump stun"
    Hence one reason why WoW PvP is a complete joke.

    Anyone who takes themselves seriously due to PvP gets my full belly laughter.

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    3.5 days of no news just to read up on esports crap? Argh. Need more expansion info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsworn Knight View Post
    Hence one reason why WoW PvP is a complete joke.

    Anyone who takes themselves seriously due to PvP gets my full belly laughter.
    I would easily gank you lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    M+ ain't bad but Arena is just "stun stun pillar hump stun pillar hump pillar hump stun oh he might die nevermind full hp pillar hump stun"
    veryyyyyyy true! very very true. I'd say lower the arena tournaments, increase maybe pvp BG tournaments, M+ invitational and raids?

    They can most definitely build a model where they have e.g a 5 bosses raid and invite the 10 best guilds in the world to compete in there using a tournament realm with noone having advantage in farming etc and being able to stream the whole tournament. I think though Blizz is quite bad when it comes to tournaments, their team is just not good as in other companies and games thats why dota and lol has overtaken their world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tratra View Post
    veryyyyyyy true! very very true. I'd say lower the arena tournaments, increase maybe pvp BG tournaments, M+ invitational and raids?

    They can most definitely build a model where they have e.g a 5 bosses raid and invite the 10 best guilds in the world to compete in there using a tournament realm with noone having advantage in farming etc and being able to stream the whole tournament. I think though Blizz is quite bad when it comes to tournaments, their team is just not good as in other companies and games thats why dota and lol has overtaken their world.
    You know, I'd MUCH rather watch RBG tournaments over arena tournaments. Things are so much better when there's an objective beyond "kill the other team".

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    'esport' lmfaooo its whoever outlasts the other teams major cooldowns first

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZettZu View Post
    is that a joke? there would be less "skill" involved if line of sight was not a part of the equation. strategic positioning and enemy awareness ≠ hiding.
    More than anything it goes to show how WoW combat is not suited for PvP, and was never originally intended for it. Even SWTOR had better PvP combat.

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    No surprise really, the next expansion is a patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    You know, I'd MUCH rather watch RBG tournaments over arena tournaments. Things are so much better when there's an objective beyond "kill the other team".
    pvp is balanced around 3s. they would have nervous breakdowns if they had to balance pvp around RBGS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZettZu View Post
    is that a joke? there would be less "skill" involved if line of sight was not a part of the equation. strategic positioning and enemy awareness ≠ hiding.
    "Strategic positioning and ennemy awarness"

    What a pretentious way to say "HUMP DA PILLARZ”

    Arena arento amdigshit level for amlong time now. You either play cleave burst or fatigue grind comp, no point in trying tomsell it as "skilled".
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    there was a reason i put "skill" in quotations. i don't really see it as a skill, but it definitely takes more awareness than standing and stabbing each other in the middle of a circle. and the only characters that constantly stand by pillars are healers, and they have to be more aware of where everyone is on both teams than anyone else. otherwise they would be standing in the middle hitting two buttons.

    it doesn't matter how balanced or mechanically "difficult" they designed pvp. if there wasn't an environment you could use to your advantage, pvp would be horrendous.

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