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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    i wouldnt say that. i would say that there would be alot more harmony if people asking for things that werent in vanilla to be in classic would be gone or at least moderated when its obvious they are trolling.
    Se, here's my problem with that. Who gets to decide what should or shouldn't be in classic?

    Everyone does according to Blizzard (which you handily quoted above). Hence why would you seek to silence any one side because they don't agree with you.
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    This "We" and "Us" stuff is getting old. Its an attempt at implying that most people agree with you, and that anyone who has a different opinion, is in the minority. Speak for yourself, not "we" and "us".

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by TotalSyn View Post
    Se, here's my problem with that. Who gets to decide what should or shouldn't be in classic?

    Everyone does according to Blizzard (which you handily quoted above). Hence why would you seek to silence any one side because they don't agree with you.
    everyone gets to decide what patch they do or a franken patch of anything that was in vanilla.

    anything outside of that is not what they said.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-big-questions

    Anything jump out at you that you'd forgotten about old school World of Warcraft?

    J. Allen Brack: Yeah, I'd forgotten that whenever you buffed one of your party members with Intellect, you had to actually sit down and drink after that. Then you stood up, buffed another party member with Intellect and then you had to drink again. It's a much slower pace. There's a lot of prep time.

    It's an interesting part of human memories, right? I think we like to remember the good parts, but the bad parts sometimes go away over time.

    Do you think there'll be a line to walk for the team, then? Somewhere between creating that authentic experience that people have asked for, while also figuring out what doesn't make sense anymore? For example, with the Intellect buff, is it important to you that players do need to drink after casting it?

    J. Allen Brack: Yes. That's part of the level 60 experience. Our goal is to recreate that classic 1-60 gameplay. Some things changed as time went on, with different patches. How does that get manifested? That's one of the outstanding questions. But yeah, the goal is to recreate that exact experience, for better or for worse.

    also,

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming...sic-interview/

    Digital Trends: During the BlizzCon Opening Ceremony you said you want WoW Classic to reproduce the classic WoW experience, but not the launch experience. How do you achieve that balance?

    Allen Brack: The “launch experience” is sort of a joke. The launch experience is not a great experience, so we want the gameplay experience to be great, with those 2004-2005 WoW systems, but have it be very stable, server uptime, not have a lot of server queues, right? All the modern conveniences that we have in modern WoW.

    So, content-wise, it will be the same?

    Brack: Content-wise it will be identical. Now, “identical” has a lot of nuance, [though], because WoW changed a lot in the two years between launch and Burning Crusade. One of the reasons we are talking about this as early as we are is to get the community’s opinions on which way we should go for certain things.
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  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    this is vanilla. not vanilla with sprinkles.
    Well I hope you have ur old computer then.
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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    Well I hope you have ur old computer then.
    heh. some things cant be helped. we are talking about them being as faithful as possible to the vanilla experience. nobody even has their old computers from then anyways. youre just being silly.
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  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    everyone gets to decide what patch they do or a franken patch of anything that was in vanilla.

    anything outside of that is not what they said.
    I don't get your argument? Your reposted quotes back my point of view. To me those read "a Vanilla experience, but which Vanilla is the real Vanilla? We want opinions."

    To me all your posts seem to be aimed at silencing anyone who has a different point of view from yours.
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    This "We" and "Us" stuff is getting old. Its an attempt at implying that most people agree with you, and that anyone who has a different opinion, is in the minority. Speak for yourself, not "we" and "us".

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by TotalSyn View Post
    I don't get your argument? Your reposted quotes back my point of view. To me those read "a Vanilla experience, but which Vanilla is the real Vanilla? We want opinions."

    To me all your posts seem to be aimed at silencing anyone who has a different point of view from yours.
    im saying they only want suggestions of stuff that already was IN vanilla. deciding on what patch or fraken patch or whatever that was in vanilla.
    the stuff im trying to "silence" is people wanting to add things that werent in vanilla like rebalancing classes in a manner that diddnt happen in vanilla. or crazy crap like having lfd and lfr . not many of those people around but they have suggested just that.

    thats what that post quote was about.
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  7. #107
    You do realize that there WAS already an early version of LFD in game back in Vanilla it was called the meeting stones or today’s summoning stones so maybe do some research before calling something “silly”

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    im saying they only want suggestions of stuff that already was IN vanilla. deciding on what patch or fraken patch or whatever that was in vanilla.
    the stuff im trying to "silence" is people wanting to add things that werent in vanilla like rebalancing classes in a manner that diddnt happen in vanilla. or crazy crap like having lfd and lfr . not many of those people around but they have suggested just that.

    thats what that post quote was about.
    And what if you misunderstood what they said? Plus, it was as interview and Blizzard is known to change its opinion mid-way (remember flying in Draenor for instance?). Imo, Classic won't be Vanilla or even Vanilla with patch 1.12 or whatever, it will be a different game taking place in the World of Vanilla but class balance, raid retuned, etc... A sort of Classic 2.0 or something like that. If they wanted to release Vanilla AS IT WAS, they would have called it Vanilla, not classic.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    And what if you misunderstood what they said? Plus, it was as interview and Blizzard is known to change its opinion mid-way (remember flying in Draenor for instance?). Imo, Classic won't be Vanilla or even Vanilla with patch 1.12 or whatever, it will be a different game taking place in the World of Vanilla but class balance, raid retuned, etc... A sort of Classic 2.0 or something like that. If they wanted to release Vanilla AS IT WAS, they would have called it Vanilla, not classic.
    the thing is i diddnt misunderstand what he said. its in plain english. go read all the interviews . theyve also called vanilla classic since tbc they never called it vanilla (well most of the time they diddnt in official statements).
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  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    heh. some things cant be helped. we are talking about them being as faithful as possible to the vanilla experience. nobody even has their old computers from then anyways. youre just being silly.
    Currently mine is in storage.
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  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    Currently mine is in storage.
    mines long gone.
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  12. #112
    Post-vanilla server stability fixes would be the start and end of my list. People should also absolutely expect BNet capability in classic as well.
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  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by bluestalya View Post
    It's fun to only wpvp during the leveling process: tons of massive, organized world pvp events will happen if they let bgs closed for a few months (there were no bgs at launch in vanilla)
    That only truthfully started once they launched rankings. Prior to that you would get random 1v1 and the odd party running into a party but nothing truthfully happening.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaelexi View Post
    That only truthfully started once they launched rankings. Prior to that you would get random 1v1 and the odd party running into a party but nothing truthfully happening.
    kinda true

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