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  1. #641
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Yes. Even your chart shows a improvement over where it was in late summer and fall of last year.
    and Jill Stein had a chance!

  2. #642
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    "Maybe for the first year"

    ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
    BWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
    i'm sorry. lol...
    You do know Obama after 8 years, finished with a lower rating than 56% after his first year? I would say he had 7 more years to make it better and he failed. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    and Jill Stein had a chance!
    She lost and so did all the rest. lol!

  3. #643
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    You do know Obama after 8 years, finished with a lower rating than 56% after his first year? I would say he had 7 more years to make it better and he failed. :P
    You do realize 56% is one of the highest in history right?

  4. #644
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Maybe for his first year. Would have to do some research. But he is not done yet. Truman dipped down into the 20's% at one time. So did Bush Jr I think?
    Both Bushes, Truman, Carter, and Nixon dipped that low. Which doesn't negate the fact that his average approval rating is lower than any other President's in history(when comparing similar time frames).

  5. #645
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    You do realize 56% is one of the highest in history right?
    Even Reagan beat him, which he had 63%. Dwight Eisenhower had close to 70%. Clinton was up there in the 60's. Even Ford was close to the same Obama had at 53%. these are all who finished their terms. Kennedy had 71% at the time of his assassination. It is hard to say what many of the older Presidents had because they did not keep approval ratings until in the 20th Century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Both Bushes, Truman, Carter, and Nixon dipped that low. Which doesn't negate the fact that his average approval rating is lower than any other President's in history(when comparing similar time frames).
    I am not disputing that and you mean, in the history of the approval ratings of the Presidents.

  6. #646
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Even Reagan beat him, which he had 63%. Dwight Eisenhower had close to 70%. Clinton was up there in the 60's. Even Ford was close to the same Obama had at 53%. these are all who finished their terms. Kennedy had 71% at the time of his assassination. It is hard to say what many of the older Presidents had because they did not keep approval ratings until in the 20th Century.

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    I am not disputing that and you mean, in the history of the approval ratings of the Presidents.
    So? Still one of the best. and You downgraded it to 53%? And no he ended up with 58% according to the website I provided.

    Also those are just Polls.

    Historically from professional Political Studies experts Obama currently still on the top lists.
    Last edited by szechuan; 2018-01-16 at 04:45 AM.

  7. #647
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    So? Still one of the best. and You downgraded it to 53%? And no he ended up with 58% according to the website I provided.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...of-second-term Obama finished with a 54% rating.

    The one I was referring to was close to his term end. But was not his final . It showed it at 53%. And yes, his was one of the bests of the recent presidents, but at least 3 where higher. With Eisenhower considerably higher. Keep in mind, most Presidents did not have any official approval ratings.

    Correction. His approval rating was 60% after he finished. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6af3f58476c8 Sorry about that.
    Last edited by Ghostpanther; 2018-01-16 at 04:53 AM.

  8. #648
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...of-second-term Obama finished with a 54% rating.

    The one I was referring to was close to his term end. but was not his final . It showed it at 53%.
    Mines is an average of All.

    If you want the Gold Standard of Polls look at Gallup.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/113980/g...-approval.aspx

    Obama ended up with 59% at the end of his presidency.

  9. #649
    Any attempt to try and say that Trump's numbers are close to Obama's is just plain disingenuous. Trump's not going to rise much, and he's not going to fall much. He is simply too divisive, and will always hover between 36-42%.

  10. #650
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Mines is an average of All.

    If you want the Gold Standard of Polls look at Gallup.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/113980/g...-approval.aspx

    Obama ended up with 59% at the end of his presidency.
    You are closer than my first check. lol! I corrected it, his was at 60% when he finished. So I agree. One of the best ones of those we have records of. Which still omits a lot of them however. But man are we getting off topic!. lol!

  11. #651
    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    Underhanded ways? You mean like how it was passed?

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    One or your members has a picture of himself sexually assaulting a service member. There are fruitcakes even in Congress.

    So what parts have been "essentially defunded". I assume you are talking about the part that wasn't actually authorized by Obamacare but Obama decided to unilaterally decide that he could spend taxpayer money any way he wanted which is specifically against the Constitution.

    Nixon is as far back as you consider modern? Hell I was alive when Nixon was President.
    It really didn't take you long to discredit yourself as a poster. Kudos.
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  12. #652
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Well, if your politics actually do fuck people over massively economically you are indeed the cause of violent reactions. See the American Revolution for example.

    Same goes if your politics threaten the lives of the people. Who would condemn uprising against that?
    I'm sorry but this is the kind of mindset that we are fighting against and as someone with a antifa logo, Politics and "WORDS" are never a reason to hurt, attack or maim anyone. EVER. but see you and your kind just use it as a justification to commit acts of violence or "violent reactions"

    You can not say that because you don't like this or that, so let's go shoot, beat, stab and murder because of reasons. You are nothing but domestic terrorists.
    The American revolution was nothing like what is happening today and will never be, I can also tell you fail to grasp history.

  13. #653
    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    Underhanded ways? You mean like how it was passed?

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    One or your members has a picture of himself sexually assaulting a service member. There are fruitcakes even in Congress.

    So what parts have been "essentially defunded". I assume you are talking about the part that wasn't actually authorized by Obamacare but Obama decided to unilaterally decide that he could spend taxpayer money any way he wanted which is specifically against the Constitution.

    Nixon is as far back as you consider modern? Hell I was alive when Nixon was President.
    Congrats on living in the modern era? I consider nixon to be the boundry due to the differences in how news was reported at that point. Yes, the subsidies was a defunding measure so he could trick people into thinking the ACA was collapsing on its own. Repealing the individual mandate also defunds OCare to a degree as you need healthy people buying insurance to help cover the cost when someone is sick. If you only have sick people on insurance it doesn’t work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    I agree with a lot of what you said. I too watch very little to no TV whatsoever. But the media is definitely fan the flames. It gets them viewers which gets them advertising money. And sadly, that is the most important things to these mega corporations.

    Delivering the truth in the News doesn't bring in the clicks or views. It's really a shame.
    Yep exactly, if the people that ran CNN or Fox News could put their own parents on TV being executed, they would do it in a heartbeat for ratings. But there is a difference between one that simply makes things up and the other, that doesn't do it's job.

    I miss the days when reporters were heros, and risked life and limb legit to get a story, not by breaking the law or trickery, but running people down and asking them over and over.

    The Reporter who got punched in the face, because they wouldn't stop getting the truth, not a clip where they can stop and start and create whatever editorial piece.


    But now you have crooks paying reporters for puff pieces
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  15. #655
    Quote Originally Posted by Stop Pretending View Post
    It really didn't take you long to discredit yourself as a poster. Kudos.
    The irony of it all, is that he actually made a thread to whine about mods shitposting...

    I guess he never had a problem with shitposting mods, after all.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ators-trolling

  16. #656
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The irony of it all, is that he actually made a thread to whine about mods shitposting...

    I guess he never had a problem with shitposting mods, after all.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ators-trolling
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