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    Patch 7.3.5 - Zone Scaling and XP Changes

    Patch 7.3.5 - Zone Scaling and XP Changes
    Every zone prior to Legion new features the same level scaling tech that was introduced in Legion, allowing you many different leveling paths.


    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
    Kalimdor
    • Azuremyst Isle: 1 - 20
    • Durotar: 1 - 20
    • Mulgore: 1 - 20
    • Teldrassil: 1 - 20
    • Azshara: 10 - 60
    • Bloodmyst Isle: 10 - 60
    • Darkshore: 10 - 60
    • Northern Barrens: 10 - 60
    • Ashenvale: 15 - 60
    • Stonetalon Mountains: 20 - 60
    • Southern Barrens: 25 - 60
    • Desolace: 30 - 60
    • Feralas: 35 - 60
    • Dustwallow Marsh: 35-60
    • Winterspring: 40 - 60
    • Felwood: 40 - 60
    • Thousand Needles: 40 - 60
    • Tanaris: 40 - 60
    • Un'Goro Crater: 40 - 60
    • Silithus: 40 - 60
    • Moonglade: N/A

    Eastern Kingdoms
    • Dun Morogh: 1 - 20
    • Elwynn Forest: 1 - 20
    • Eversong Woods: 1 - 20
    • Tirisfal Glades: 1 - 20
    • Ghostlands: 10 - 60
    • Loch Modan: 10 - 60
    • Silverpine Forest: 10 - 60
    • Westfall: 10 - 60
    • Hillsbrad Foothills: 15 - 60
    • Redridge Mountains: 15 - 60
    • Duskwood: 20 - 60
    • Wetlands: 20 - 60
    • Arathi Highlands: 25 - 60
    • Northern Stranglethorn 25 - 60
    • Cape of Stranglethorn: 30 - 60
    • The Hinterlands: 30 - 60
    • Western Plaguelands: 35 - 60
    • Eastern Plaguelands: 40 - 60
    • Badlands: 40 - 60
    • Burning Steppes: 40 - 60
    • Searing Gorge: 40 - 60
    • Swamp of Sorrows: 40 - 60
    • Blasted Lands: 40 - 60
    • Isle of Quel'Danas: 67 - 80

    Outland
    • Hellfire Peninsula: 58 - 80
    • Zangarmarsh: 60 - 80
    • Terokkar Forest: 62 - 80
    • Nagrand: 64 - 80
    • Blade's Edge Mountains: 65 - 80
    • Netherstorm: 67 - 80
    • Shadowmoon Valley: 67 - 80

    Northrend
    • Borean Tundra: 58 - 80
    • Howling Fjord: 58 - 80
    • Dragonblight: 61 - 80
    • Grizzly Hills: 63 - 80
    • Zul'Drak: 64 - 80
    • Sholazar Basin: 66 - 80
    • The Storm Peaks: 67 - 80
    • Icecrown: 67 - 80
    • Wintergrasp: 67 - 80

    Cataclysm
    • Mount Hyjal: 80 - 90
    • Kelp'thar Forest: 80 - 90
    • Vashj'ir: 80 - 90
    • Deepholm: 82 - 90
    • Uldum: 83 - 90
    • Twilight Highlands: 84 - 90

    Pandaria
    • The Jade Forest: 80 - 90
    • Krasarang Wilds: 81 - 90
    • Valley of the Four Winds: 81 - 90
    • Kun-Lai Summit: 82 - 90
    • Townlong Steppes: 83 - 90
    • Dread Wastes: 84 - 90
    • Vale of Eternal Blossoms: 85 - 90
    • Isle of Thunder - 85 - 90
    • Timeless Isle - 85 - 90

    Draenor
    • Shadowmoon Valley - 90 - 100
    • Frostfire Ridge - 90 - 100
    • Gorgrond - 92 - 100
    • Talador - 94 - 100
    • Spires of Arak - 96 - 100
    • Nagrand - 98 - 100



    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
    • Level 10 - 9,240 XP to Level, up 5% from 8,800 XP
    • Level 11 - 10,780 XP to Level, up 10% from 9,800 XP
    • Level 12 - 13,225 XP to Level, up 15% from 11,500 XP
    • Level 13 - 16,800 XP to Level, up 20% from 14,000 XP
    • Level 14 - 20,375 XP to Level, up 25% from 16,300 XP
    • Level 15 - 24,440 XP to Level, up 30% from 18,800 XP
    • Level 16 - 28,080 XP to Level, up 35% from 20,800 XP
    • Level 17 - 31,500 XP to Level, up 40% from 22,500 XP
    • Level 18 - 34,800 XP to Level, up 45% from 24,000 XP
    • Level 19 - 38,550 XP to Level, up 50% from 25,700 XP
    • Level 20 - 42,315 XP to Level, up 55% from 27,300 XP
    • Level 21 - 46,560 XP to Level, up 60% from 29,100 XP
    • Level 22 - 49,440 XP to Level, up 60% from 30,900 XP
    • Level 23 - 52,000 XP to Level, up 60% from 32,500 XP
    • Level 24 - 55,040 XP to Level, up 60% from 34,400 XP
    • Level 25 - 58,400 XP to Level, up 60% from 36,500 XP
    • Level 26 - 61,120 XP to Level, up 60% from 38,200 XP
    • Level 27 - 64,160 XP to Level, up 60% from 40,100 XP
    • Level 28 - 66,880 XP to Level, up 60% from 41,800 XP
    • Level 29 - 71,680 XP to Level, up 60% from 44,800 XP
    • Level 30 - 76,160 XP to Level, up 60% from 47,600 XP
    • Level 31 - 81,440 XP to Level, up 60% from 50,900 XP
    • Level 32 - 85,600 XP to Level, up 60% from 53,500 XP
    • Level 33 - 90,240 XP to Level, up 60% from 56,400 XP
    • Level 34 - 94,560 XP to Level, up 60% from 59,100 XP
    • Level 35 - 99,200 XP to Level, up 60% from 62,000 XP
    • Level 36 - 104,160 XP to Level, up 60% from 65,100 XP
    • Level 37 - 108,480 XP to Level, up 60% from 67,800 XP
    • Level 38 - 113,280 XP to Level, up 60% from 70,800 XP
    • Level 39 - 117,920 XP to Level, up 60% from 73,700 XP
    • Level 40 - 133,980 XP to Level, up 40% from 95,700 XP
    • Level 41 - 139,300 XP to Level, up 40% from 99,500 XP
    • Level 42 - 144,620 XP to Level, up 40% from 103,300 XP
    • Level 43 - 149,800 XP to Level, up 40% from 107,000 XP
    • Level 44 - 155,120 XP to Level, up 40% from 110,800 XP
    • Level 45 - 160,580 XP to Level, up 40% from 114,700 XP
    • Level 46 - 165,900 XP to Level, up 40% from 118,500 XP
    • Level 47 - 171,360 XP to Level, up 40% from 122,400 XP
    • Level 48 - 176,820 XP to Level, up 40% from 126,300 XP
    • Level 49 - 182,280 XP to Level, up 40% from 130,200 XP
    • Level 50 - 188,020 XP to Level, up 40% from 134,300 XP
    • Level 51 - 193,620 XP to Level, up 40% from 138,300 XP
    • Level 52 - 199,360 XP to Level, up 40% from 142,400 XP
    • Level 53 - 205,100 XP to Level, up 40% from 146,500 XP
    • Level 54 - 210,700 XP to Level, up 40% from 150,500 XP
    • Level 55 - 216,580 XP to Level, up 40% from 154,700 XP
    • Level 56 - 222,460 XP to Level, up 40% from 158,900 XP
    • Level 57 - 228,480 XP to Level, up 40% from 163,200 XP
    • Level 58 - 234,220 XP to Level, up 40% from 167,300 XP
    • Level 59 - 240,380 XP to Level, up 40% from 171,700 XP
    Last edited by chaud; 2018-01-16 at 05:40 PM.

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    Gonna be so nice! :>

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    I can't wait to try this out. I've always been a dungeon spammer since the effort of running to a new zone every few levels is a bit annoying. I've got some characters ready to level through all the different zones. So long Cataclysm (aside from maybe Hyjal), so long Outland!

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    This is definitely going to encourage me get Loremaster! Very happy!

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    xp past 60 has not been increased?
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Sure glad i leveled my monk already cause this sounds terrible.

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    man ill tell ya. One of the most enjoyable times in WoW was when I started an Undead Huntard and read EVERY QUEST TEXT and took my time through Silverpine, Arathi, Western PL and Eastern PL. all till Northrend at 72 when I stopped.

    been wanting to do that again for years. Always head Stonetalon Mt. was sad and a good story but never did it since Vanilla.

    Now the shitty thing is I have 2 more Legendaries to go then I get the random class ones.... I dont want to start and invest in a new class only to get a random leggo for another class a week later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micka Steelspark View Post
    Gonna be so nice! :>
    Allow me to know how taking 60% longer time to get to 110 is "nice"?

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    Obviously Blizzard wants to force people to level longer or buy the boost, this is another ploy to earn more money.
    They are playing it on those that say it was so nice being vanilla, but really, do you want to spend extra 2-3 weeks or more
    to get to the level of your main toon?

    increase of level required by 60% and people applaud that.
    Try get your new alt to 100 and see how fun that is, this will definately put an end to people alting without purchasing the boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micka Steelspark View Post
    Gonna be so nice! :>
    yeah I thought the same thing "Ah yes I can't wait for leveling to be even slower and more boring now". In all seriousness please explain how leveling taking 60% longer is a good thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Sure glad i leveled my monk already cause this sounds terrible.
    Yep, same. I have no idea why people are so excited about a substantially slower leveling process. It's still the same old shit zones.

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    Oh and lets not forget when they smash the xp for the 60-70 and 70-80 and 80-90 and 90-100, people will loooove that for sure...*golf clap*

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    I have several characters that exist for the sole purpose of questing and leveling. I for one(and the vast majority of people I know) welcome this change. Having the ability to go virtually wherever I want and never outlevel it, thus keeping it feeling relevant, AND not have to worry about leveling too fast is exactly the kind of thing I wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotunhammer View Post

    increase of level required by 60% and people applaud that.
    Try get your new alt to 100 and see how fun that is, this will definately put an end to people alting without purchasing the boost.
    XP isn't increased beyond 60, which is where the big numbers start.

    90-100 will be mega easy, same xp, same treasure chests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles55 View Post
    yeah I thought the same thing "Ah yes I can't wait for leveling to be even slower and more boring now". In all seriousness please explain how leveling taking 60% longer is a good thing?
    60% only from level 20-60 which were super fast anyway.

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    Because the mobs are scaling up to you, you ought to be getting more XP per kill which might offset the additional XP requirement a bit. Currently it's like one dungeon per level and almost a new dungeon unlock every level (in heirlooms) so maybe have to run each one twice now (which is actually good for efficiency as half the group may actually have seen the dungeon before lol).

    Since IIRC the dungeon finder now offers a much larger range of dungeons, if I queue as say a level 50 healer for a level 20 dungeon, I think the mobs will look like level 50 to me, but will the other players still be level 20 making healing trivial?

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    I need to decide what my 60-80 route will be now.

    80-90 will be a godsend now that all characters have pandaria flying.

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    Wonder if its dawned on anyone yet that these scaling zones mean that if a zone is say 35-60 and a higher end player is there leveling...its just asking for griefing to happen.

    I mean come on, making areas more heavily trafficed by characters of such possibly large level gaps, you’re just asking for this to happen. More players out there at a given time, the ability for the zone to be of use and purpose for players anywhere from 5 to 35 levels higher than others....

    Its going to just turn into a total clusterphuk for the lower end players leveling, having these higher player “threats” as a constant now in any zone they wish to participate in because they too have a legitimate purpose to be there for questing and the like.

    If anything i see this turning into even more of a reason for players to just campout in cities and spam dungeon queues, specifically to avoid this “oh look i’m a level 20 doing this quest to kill these mobs” and BOOM suddenly a 20-30-40+ level character thats doing the same quest just one shots and proceeds to camp them for the simple sake of doing so to grief this questing playe.

    The chance to find one of these lower level characters to do so to is so much further increased than it was previously with these griefers having to patrol the whole damn zone just trying to find someone at random..these changes make finding targets as simple as just leveling themselves and they’re right there for them having to traffic the exact same questing path for the zone.
    Last edited by Vx-Odessa-xV; 2018-01-16 at 04:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PixelFox View Post
    Because the mobs are scaling up to you, you ought to be getting more XP per kill which might offset the additional XP requirement a bit. Currently it's like one dungeon per level and almost a new dungeon unlock every level (in heirlooms) so maybe have to run each one twice now (which is actually good for efficiency as half the group may actually have seen the dungeon before lol).

    Since IIRC the dungeon finder now offers a much larger range of dungeons, if I queue as say a level 50 healer for a level 20 dungeon, I think the mobs will look like level 50 to me, but will the other players still be level 20 making healing trivial?
    I offset the additional XP requirement by leveling my characters before the patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vx-Odessa-xV View Post
    Wonder if its dawned on anyone yet that these scaling zones mean that if a zone is say 35-60 and a higher end player is there leveling...its just asking for griefing to happen.

    I mean come on, making areas more heavily trafficed by characters of such possibly large level gaps, you’re just asking for this to happen. More players out there at a given time, the ability for the zone to be of use and purpose for players anywhere from 5 to 35 levels higher than others....

    Its going to just turn into a total clusterphuk for the lower end players leveling, having these higher player “threats” as a constant now in any zone they wish to participate in because they too have a legitimate purpose to be there for questing and the like.

    If anything i see this turning into even more of a reason for players to just campout in cities and spam dungeon queues, specifically to avoid this “oh look i’m a level 20 doing this quest to kill these movs” and BOOM suddenly a 50 thats doing the same quest just one shots and proceeds to camp them for the simple sake of doing so to grief this player
    It doesn't work like that, a level 50 will have higher health mobs on his screen then a level 20.

    Even if fighting the same mob/boss. Back when they had scaling world bosses during the anniversary event, Green dragon would have like 2 million health for a 60, but 500 million health for a 110. etc.

    And when it comes to pvp, that's gonna be changed in 8.0 with the new toggle system to only be in zones with pvpers or pvers.
    Last edited by Teri; 2018-01-16 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teri View Post
    It doesn't work like that, a level 50 will have higher health mobs on his screen then a level 20.

    Even if fighting the same mob/boss. Back when they had scaling world bosses during the anniversary event, Green dragon would have like 2 million health for a 60, but 500 million health for a 110. etc.

    And when it comes to pvp, that's gonna be changed in 8.0 with the new toggle system to only be in zones with pvpers or pvers.
    And until 8.0 which will be months and months away, easily 4+ we will get to sit through this constant griefing and ganking

    As for zone mobs, i am well aware, what i said is that both players will be after the same mobs, as they will be on the same quest, thus putting them in close proximity of eachother, nothing about a level 20 having to fight a mob scaled to level 60, mob health differences or anything of the like. That was never stated.

    The whole post was in regards to these now upcoming months of PvP bullsheyt we will be getting to put up with for low level players just trying to quest, with now having countless times more high level players trafficing the zones which they are trying to level through and will be forced to share with a mutual purpose, that being leveling, rather than the much less likely reasons a low level will be found by a higher level player and put in the position of being ganked, griefed and camped that we have now, pre-this zone change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vx-Odessa-xV View Post
    And until 8.0 which will be months and months away, easily 4+ we will get to sot theough this constant griefing and ganking

    As for zone mobs, i am well aware, what i said is that both players will be after the same mobs, as they will be on the same quest, thus putting them in close proximity of eachother, nothing about a level 20 having to fight a mob scaled to level 60....

    The whole post was in regards to these now upcoming months of PvP bullsheyt we will be getting to put up with for low level players just trying to quest, with now having countless times more high level players trafficing the zones which they are teying to level through.
    The mob will not scale up if a 60 hits it, and a 20 hits it, each get their own health bar, it might be 10k health for a 60, and 3k health for the 20, they see the same health %.

    As far as a 61-110 hitting low level mobs/players, that's been in the game ever since, and a 61 would get like no xp whatsoever killing 60 mobs or lower since it's an "expansion" cap.

    They had hallows end last year, the horseman could be fought by pretty much anyone, level 5 or 110, lower level actually did more % health damage unless a 110 was like raid geared of course. (talking about the one that spawns in low level towns after putting the fires out).
    Last edited by Teri; 2018-01-16 at 05:11 PM.

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